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Post by GrahamHyde on Feb 2, 2018 13:38:05 GMT
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Post by werrington on Feb 2, 2018 13:45:32 GMT
Says the bloke who in the last 5 months has spent £110m on TWO centre forwards
Did he think about Stoke,Watford, Brighton and the like competing with Arsenal whilst he was spending it ?
He’s a twat and no I don’t agree with him ...I’d agree if it came from let’s say Huddersfield’s manager
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Post by kristoff on Feb 2, 2018 13:47:52 GMT
I thinks it’s already been destroyed, but his lot were there at the start helping themselves to whoever they wanted. He’s just pissed other teams and managers have become better at manipulating the red than he is.
End of, this game is corrupt and stinks, hence outside of Stoke I don’t give a monkies
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Post by crowey on Feb 2, 2018 13:51:05 GMT
...... sour grapes?
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Post by pyrus on Feb 2, 2018 13:53:04 GMT
Wenger on anything that doesn’t work in his favour: “It’s bad for the game” ...e.g. we should replace throw-ins with kick-ins because Rory Delap took his defence to bits.
Of course there is too much money in the game and of course the big clubs have most of it. Welcome to our planet where 5% of people have 95% of the wealth. Just because you’re not able to compete any more, doesn’t mean it has only just started to be wrong.
Word to the wise, Arsene ...life’s not fair.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 14:02:23 GMT
He is right, the ridiculous spending is destroying football.
I don't class Wenger amongst those managers who have pretty much bought their success, he was successful because of new training methods and tactics which other clubs have since caught up on. Arsenal spend a fair amount but it's nothing like Man City / PSG / Barcelona. Even Real Madrid don't seen able (or don't want) to compete in the ridiculous transfer fees going on at the moment.
It'll be interesting to see who wins next season, you'd expect Man City to dominate given this spending but no team has won the league consecutively since Man Utd did it 3 seasons in a row under Fergie. It doesn't mean the league isn't being ruined though, there is a massive gap between the top 6 teams and the rest who are just battling to survive.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 2, 2018 14:04:08 GMT
I can appreciate what he's saying, but it's just coming from the wrong manager.....
You're a total hypocrite Wenger, you're just making a BIGGER tool of yourself than you already are!!!
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Post by Veritas on Feb 2, 2018 14:05:29 GMT
Certainly sour grapes but it is true, although obviously he wouldn't be saying anu of this if Emirates owned Arsenal. |
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Post by crowey on Feb 2, 2018 14:12:00 GMT
Certainly sour grapes but it is true, although obviously he wouldn't be saying anu of this if Emirates owned Arsenal. He is absolutely correct of course, but coming from him it is very much sour grapes |
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Post by Northy on Feb 2, 2018 14:21:31 GMT
He always looks like he is sucking on a sour grape. Yes, it's true what he says, but they are one of the ones who were spending £millions with the other big 4 before Man city rose above them |
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Post by bloody56 on Feb 2, 2018 14:25:18 GMT
Arsenal pay the largest wages of any team outside of China. Sánchez signing for the shit is causing them problems, because he was on a lot more money than any of the other shit players.
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Post by bloody56 on Feb 2, 2018 14:27:11 GMT
he will have to think up another excuse if we beat them at their place with our spending power.
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Post by crowey on Feb 2, 2018 14:28:55 GMT
Arsenal pay the largest wages of any team outside of China. Sánchez signing for the shit is causing them problems, because he was on a lot more money than any of the other shit players. ...... do you mean he was on a lot more money than the Arsehole or Manure players? We |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 2, 2018 14:37:49 GMT
Amazing hypocrisy from the biggest cunt in football.
He wasn't complaining when Arsenal and Utd had all the money and were winning PL leagues while paying the highest wages. The bloke should have been drummed out of English football years ago.
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Post by thegift on Feb 2, 2018 14:41:28 GMT
He's only jealous, but he's right.
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Post by westgatelakes on Feb 2, 2018 15:19:59 GMT
He is correct but Arsenal could easily compete with Man City, Man Utd & Chelsea if they wanted to but, as we all know, Wenger controls everything at Arsenal & his background in economics has led him to manage Arsenal as a business & spend their money as if its his own.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Feb 2, 2018 15:38:16 GMT
I disagree. It's about how you spend, and they spunked 50 million on Lacazette who has been a major flop, and now they've spent 60+ million on Aubameyang to try and fix the issue.
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Post by huuuuuth on Feb 2, 2018 15:42:48 GMT
Try being a club outside the top six, you prick
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Post by biglad180 on Feb 2, 2018 16:05:28 GMT
like him or not he is spot on. the league as become a farce Chelsea and man city have bought there glory not earned it. Chelsea have 30 odd players out on loan how can that be right. man city are buying everything insight. fucking joke .the best thing would be for them to start a European league so we can fuck them off along with man utd. we are better off without them.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 2, 2018 16:32:28 GMT
like him or not he is spot on. the league as become a farce Chelsea and man city have bought there glory not earned it. Chelsea have 30 odd players out on loan how can that be right. man city are buying everything insight. fucking joke .the best thing would be for them to start a European league so we can fuck them off along with man utd. we are better off without them. Definitely not in a monetary sense. Where is the appeal for TV deals when the biggest/best teams in the league have gone? It would just be the Championship in that case. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 16:38:45 GMT
I disagree. It's about how you spend, and they spunked 50 million on Lacazette who has been a major flop, and now they've spent 60+ million on Aubameyang to try and fix the issue. 9 goals in 24 games would suggest otherwise, that's not a bad return at all for a striker in his first season in the league - he could easily make it 15 before the season is out. I don't see Aubameyang as a replacement for Lacazette, you need a full squad of top players to be able to compete these days unless you're incredibly lucky with injuries as Leicester were that season. He's more of a replacement for Sanchez if anything. Chelsea are suffering from the same problem too, Morata misses a few games and suddenly they go to shit.. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Feb 2, 2018 17:10:30 GMT
I disagree. It's about how you spend, and they spunked 50 million on Lacazette who has been a major flop, and now they've spent 60+ million on Aubameyang to try and fix the issue. 9 goals in 24 games would suggest otherwise, that's not a bad return at all for a striker in his first season in the league - he could easily make it 15 before the season is out. I don't see Aubameyang as a replacement for Lacazette, you need a full squad of top players to be able to compete these days unless you're incredibly lucky with injuries as Leicester were that season. He's more of a replacement for Sanchez if anything. Chelsea are suffering from the same problem too, Morata misses a few games and suddenly they go to shit.. If you're paying over 50 million for a striker then you expect more than 9 goals. Diouf would get 9 goals if he started every game for Arsenal. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 17:27:54 GMT
9 goals in 24 games would suggest otherwise, that's not a bad return at all for a striker in his first season in the league - he could easily make it 15 before the season is out. I don't see Aubameyang as a replacement for Lacazette, you need a full squad of top players to be able to compete these days unless you're incredibly lucky with injuries as Leicester were that season. He's more of a replacement for Sanchez if anything. Chelsea are suffering from the same problem too, Morata misses a few games and suddenly they go to shit.. If you're paying over 50 million for a striker then you expect more than 9 goals. Diouf would get 9 goals if he started every game for Arsenal. As crazy as it sounds, £50m isn't that much for a striker nowadays for one of the top clubs. That's the new going rate for a decent fullback at the highest level. Lukaku has only got 11 this season and he could end up costing £90 million! |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Feb 2, 2018 17:49:59 GMT
If you're paying over 50 million for a striker then you expect more than 9 goals. Diouf would get 9 goals if he started every game for Arsenal. As crazy as it sounds, £50m isn't that much for a striker nowadays for one of the top clubs. That's the new going rate for a decent fullback at the highest level. Lukaku has only got 11 this season and he could end up costing £90 million! Yeah him and Lukaku have both flopped. It's not good enough for any striker over 50 million. I expect 10 million to get you a striker that can put 9 goals in. They are supposed to be "world class" players, but the only world class strikers are Kane and Aguero. |
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Post by potterspele on Feb 2, 2018 18:17:33 GMT
As crazy as it sounds, £50m isn't that much for a striker nowadays for one of the top clubs. That's the new going rate for a decent fullback at the highest level. Lukaku has only got 11 this season and he could end up costing £90 million! Yeah him and Lukaku have both flopped. It's not good enough for any striker over 50 million. I expect 10 million to get you a striker that can put 9 goals in. They are supposed to be "world class" players, but the only world class strikers are Kane and Aguero. Not many world class strikers in the game full stop and in fairness they are unobtainable. £200 million is the going rate for someone truly world class. If you judge players by their price tag then use that as the benchmark of quality and scale down. In that sense £50 million probably won't get you 20 goals a season any more. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Feb 2, 2018 18:57:33 GMT
Yeah him and Lukaku have both flopped. It's not good enough for any striker over 50 million. I expect 10 million to get you a striker that can put 9 goals in. They are supposed to be "world class" players, but the only world class strikers are Kane and Aguero. Not many world class strikers in the game full stop and in fairness they are unobtainable. £200 million is the going rate for someone truly world class. If you judge players by their price tag then use that as the benchmark of quality and scale down. In that sense £50 million probably won't get you 20 goals a season any more. No but it should get you more than 9. |
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Post by fatboystoke on Feb 2, 2018 21:06:25 GMT
Typical Wenger hypocrisy - clubs like Man City have too much money unless they are paying over the odds for Arsenal players like Adebayor, Sanya, Cliche and Kolo Toure. Wenger is a twat and he just can't help it
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Post by exiledpotter on Feb 2, 2018 21:37:17 GMT
An idea from another poster (sorry I've forgotten who but it was probably in the 'Jack Harisson thread') suggested a cap on the number of players that clubs can own and loan out. It would help.
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Post by exiledpotter on Feb 2, 2018 21:43:38 GMT
And an idea from me .... clubs can spend what they like, but they have to invest (say 20% of what they spend) in sports facilities at local schools and sports clubs. 100 million on a striker ... no problem, that will cost you another 20 million for sport in the 'local community'.
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Post by doitforfrank on Feb 2, 2018 22:04:49 GMT
I can appreciate what he's saying, but it's just coming from the wrong manager..... You're a total hypocrite Wenger, you're just making a BIGGER tool of yourself than you already are!!! My thoughts exactly. Utter tool. In the week you have signed £100m worth of players, his comments are quite frankly ludicrous. Maybe he didn't see Aubamayang and Mkhritaryan come to training. |
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