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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 31, 2018 22:17:44 GMT
Let's not beat about the bush, that was a terrible game of football.
But is it too extreme a reaction to suggest we're in massive trouble on the back of what we saw today?
Let's face it, we were in massive trouble before Lambert arrived. It's easy to lose sight of what went under the previous manager. Yes, tonight was one of those games you target as 3 points. But they aren't gimmes by any stretch of the imagination. Home defeats this season against Bournemouth, West Ham and Newcastle this season prove that.
And then there's the little matter of a team that has leaked goals at a freightnieng rate.
That's now 2 clean sheets on the bounce. The first ones we've got since October.
Granted, tonight was far from brilliant. But let's not lose sight of what went before and the steps in right direction we've made.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 31, 2018 22:21:42 GMT
Let's not beat about the bush, that was a terrible game of football. But is it too extreme a reaction to suggest we're in massive trouble on the back of what we saw today? Let's face it, we were in massive trouble before Lambert arrived. It's easy to lose sight of what went under the previous manager. Yes, tonight was one of those games you target as 3 points. But they aren't gimmes by any stretch of the imagination. Home defeats this season against Bournemouth, West Ham and Newcastle this season prove that. And then there's the little matter of a team that has leaked goals at a freightnieng rate. That's now 2 clean sheets on the bounce. The first ones we've got since October. Granted, tonight was far from brilliant. But let's not lose sight of what went before and the steps in right direction we've made. Spot on, clean sheets are what get you out of trouble. Apart from Fletcher we are battling hard and defending well. Shawcrosd is back in excellent form. We need to find a solution to midfield though |
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Post by Bowyer83 on Jan 31, 2018 22:23:18 GMT
Let's not beat about the bush, that was a terrible game of football. But is it too extreme a reaction to suggest we're in massive trouble on the back of what we saw today? Let's face it, we were in massive trouble before Lambert arrived. It's easy to lose sight of what went under the previous manager. Yes, tonight was one of those games you target as 3 points. But they aren't gimmes by any stretch of the imagination. Home defeats this season against Bournemouth, West Ham and Newcastle this season prove that. And then there's the little matter of a team that has leaked goals at a freightnieng rate. That's now 2 clean sheets on the bounce. The first ones we've got since October. Granted, tonight was far from brilliant. But let's not lose sight of what went before and the steps in right direction we've made. Spot on. |
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Post by juiceandbits on Jan 31, 2018 22:23:50 GMT
I'd like to see us try and play football. The first half against Huddersfield was exactly the same as this to be honest so it seems like a trend is emerging.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 31, 2018 22:25:21 GMT
Christ we are thankfull for small things are we not. It was fucking Watford at home???
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Post by stayingupfor taystokie on Jan 31, 2018 22:26:47 GMT
Things are better, we have had 2 clean sheets which i dont think anyone could see with hughes. But we are still in big trouble without a doubt. We need rack up some points quick in feb cause after we have some tough games. The forward play left a lot to be desired but PL has only been here a couple weeks. Hopefully with the new signing replacing fletcher we can carry on improving and pick up these vital points we need. We are still yet to see if the left back can add something.
We can do this
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 31, 2018 22:29:49 GMT
We were dog shit. Clueless, no plan, nothing.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 31, 2018 22:30:22 GMT
Christ we are thankfull for small things are we not. It was fucking Watford at home??? We've lost 3 Home games this season against teams like Watford. Is a draw not a step in the right direction? |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 31, 2018 22:30:45 GMT
We were dog shit. Clueless, no plan, nothing. Still, got a point. |
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Post by duckling on Jan 31, 2018 22:32:02 GMT
There is ONE point separating 14th and 19th. It could very well come down to goal difference. Stoke are now tied with Huddersfield for the worst goal difference, and I think Huddersfield will end the season with a worse one than Stoke. I don't see Stoke making up the ground on anyone else.
In 24 of the last 25 seasons, the team that conceded the most goals was relegated. Stoke have conceded 6 more goals than anyone else. That's a very poor omen.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Jan 31, 2018 22:33:01 GMT
Shit game, Fletcher is a very obvious weakness. I would be tempted to see if Bruno can play in front of Ryan and Zouma.
He is good on the ball, better at passing than G.Cam, Mobile, Strong and positionally aware... Failing that then Geoff will need to do the job.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 31, 2018 22:33:22 GMT
We were dog shit. Clueless, no plan, nothing. Still, got a point. Yep, due to Watford being exactly the same. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 31, 2018 22:34:57 GMT
Allen, Badou and Cameron have to be in midfield. Adam can sling his fat arse as well.
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Post by spoton on Jan 31, 2018 22:35:06 GMT
The truth what a pile of shit,if Lambert is happy with his players attitude and commitment then we are in deep shit ,the whole team were shit
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Post by This is the year on Jan 31, 2018 22:35:35 GMT
We were dog shit. Clueless, no plan, nothing. I’d rather play shit and get something out the game then Play decent and get fuck all. |
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 31, 2018 22:39:28 GMT
We were dog shit. Clueless, no plan, nothing. Still, got a point. We would have lost this one under Hughes, we got a point however we were generally pretty shit Fletcher is abysmal, without a decent striker who can create something out of very little we are fucked end of. |
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jan 31, 2018 22:43:25 GMT
We were absolutely solid all match. Yes it was an awful game but we never looked like losing. Let's be honest we need to be more clinical in front of goal we can't keep wasting good chances like the one Shaqiri had in the second half.
Watford really bossed the middle of the park but PL changed it early in the second half and went 4-4-2 which helped out get wide more and we looked more threatening.
Every point and every clean sheet is an improvement.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 31, 2018 22:44:08 GMT
I think we look better now than we did under Hughes. Lambert seems to have a better idea of tactics and seems to be making better decisions than what Hughes. I just think today we just didn't play very well.
The defence looks 100 times better under Hughes. But for fletcher we looked very comfortable.
The CM is what's costing us at the moment. Not mobile enough to win the ball when its there to be won, not fast enough to create the quick breaks and not great in possession. I don't know Badou well enough but I'd love him to be mobile enough to give us the opportunity to have Ireland, Afellay or Shaq playing in an advances role so we can create more.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 31, 2018 22:45:47 GMT
Its fucking laughable when you look at today and conclude that Geoff Cameron might be the solution to our problems. Of course he will offer slightly more than the 'gone at the game' Fletcher but will offer no improvement in terms of finding teammates from 5 yards, our complete lack of guile and ability to break teams down.
We're deep in the shite, thankfully so are ten other teams.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 31, 2018 22:48:10 GMT
The only positive is that we escaped with a clean sheet...which was more by luck than judgement.
That was ultra shite and as bad as anything we've produced this season.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 31, 2018 22:54:30 GMT
It was a dire game. We got a point and a clean sheet - the former could be the difference in keeping us up come May, the latter is most definitely a huge positive in building confidence for our battle against relegation.
We have stopped the bleeding, which was in danger of seeing us sunk without trace. We are still fighting, and out of the bottom three.
Badou better be more Nzonzi than Imbula......
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2018 22:56:15 GMT
The clean sheet is the only crumb of comfort.
90 excruciating minutes of utter sub-Ladsandads dross. Embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 22:59:17 GMT
* Clean sheet
* Four points out of six
* Out of the bottom three
* Athletic mobile midfield player acquired
Yet it was a poor game but under Hughes we'd have lost.
We move on.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 31, 2018 23:02:13 GMT
Yep, due to Watford being exactly the same. So you're voting for bring back Hughes and lose these games then? #Logic |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 31, 2018 23:07:55 GMT
Yep, due to Watford being exactly the same. So you're voting for bring back Hughes and lose these games then? #Logic Well done for making shit up. Hughes beat Watford at Vicarage Road. He lost the plot and is mainly responsible for the shit show tonight. Lambert has got a massive job but we won't get anywhere by hoofing it. |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 31, 2018 23:12:12 GMT
So you're voting for bring back Hughes and lose these games then? #Logic Well done for making shit up. Hughes beat Watford at Vicarage Road. He lost the plot and is mainly responsible for the shit show tonight. Lambert has got a massive job but we won't get anywhere by hoofing it. Back to back clean sheets. Our first ones since October. #LambertOut |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Jan 31, 2018 23:13:57 GMT
Massive improvement in defence, time to work on midfield, and forwards not getting caught offside all the time.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 31, 2018 23:14:18 GMT
We're better because we look more solid with a back 4 who are playing as a unit.
We have a great RB now Ryan looked a lot better tonight too.
There is no doubt that CM is costing us hopefully that's been partially addressed with the signing of Badou who looks an athlete and rapid. Him and Allen should cover some yards.
Fletcher should be a total last resort with both Afellay and Ireland ahead of him in the pecking order. Today he single handedly nearly cost us the game.
The fact we're keeping clean sheets is a massive plus we just need to get the ball quicker to the forwards so they have more space. I'd be tempted to maybe look at a 3 of Choupa, Jese and Shaq if Diouf doesn't work.
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Post by stokiemarc on Jan 31, 2018 23:15:55 GMT
We have not focal point up top. Diouf can't hold the ball up, we just kept giving up possession. That'll be the last we see of Fletcher hopefully, he was beyond woeful.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jan 31, 2018 23:16:20 GMT
10 day break did us no favours.....
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