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Post by agingerstokie on Jan 30, 2018 16:30:44 GMT
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 30, 2018 16:38:01 GMT
Rascists.......very unpleasant. Should ban them from all competition for a decent length of time in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 16:58:19 GMT
Rascists.......very unpleasant. Should ban them from all competition for a decent length of time in my opinion. Yet go there on holiday and they're the friendliest most helpful people you could meet. Funny old world.....
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 30, 2018 17:03:44 GMT
Rascists.......very unpleasant. Should ban them from all competition for a decent length of time in my opinion. Yet go there on holiday and they're their friendliest most helpful people you could meet. Funny old world..... Yes strange that.......I wonder if they're as friendly with black people? I'm guessing not
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 17:04:58 GMT
Yet go there on holiday and they're their friendliest most helpful people you could meet. Funny old world..... Yes strange that.......I wonder if they're as friendly with black people? I'm guessing not Maybe go and visit then you won't have to guess......
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Post by walrus on Jan 30, 2018 17:12:54 GMT
Yes strange that.......I wonder if they're as friendly with black people? I'm guessing not Maybe go and visit then you won't have to guess...... Probably just the actions of one or two rogue grounds staff. Hardly speaks for the attitudes of a nation.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 30, 2018 17:21:12 GMT
Yes strange that.......I wonder if they're as friendly with black people? I'm guessing not Maybe go and visit then you won't have to guess...... The first time I went to Croatia Zagreb was shelled and some bastard pulled a gun on me. The second time I went nothing untoward happened but I wouldn't put them in my Top 10 of hospitable nations.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 30, 2018 17:47:55 GMT
Maybe go and visit then you won't have to guess...... The first time I went to Croatia Zagreb was shelled and some bastard pulled a gun on me. The second time I went nothing untoward happened but I wouldn't put them in my Top 10 of hospitable nations. What made you go the second time? Cheap deal at thompsons on the all inclusive?
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Post by waffles on Jan 30, 2018 18:03:45 GMT
I work with some Rumanians and Moldovan staff,ask them about their love of black people.
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Post by Boothen on Jan 30, 2018 18:18:34 GMT
Never understood all this playing behind closed doors bollocks. England have done nothing wrong, so why do we get punished too?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 30, 2018 19:20:27 GMT
The first time I went to Croatia Zagreb was shelled and some bastard pulled a gun on me. The second time I went nothing untoward happened but I wouldn't put them in my Top 10 of hospitable nations. What made you go the second time? Cheap deal at thompsons on the all inclusive? Cost came in to it but I was on my way to Bosnia seeing as you asked
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 19:26:47 GMT
Never understood all this playing behind closed doors bollocks. England have done nothing wrong, so why do we get punished too? Suits me, behind closed doors and ban tv coverage too. Saves us having to sit through the boring, predictable, dull, tedious rubbish England serve up these days 😁
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 19:29:50 GMT
Travelled the length of Croatia in Ghostbusters Hearse (long story) Great country, amazing scenary and the people friendly and partied hard. still a divided nation though GD
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jan 30, 2018 19:33:35 GMT
Went to Split. Most were alright that we encountered but I'd never go back.
Alot of racism which is typical in Eastern Europe. You'd think times would have moved forward in that regard but it seems to just keep going backwards and because Sanctions or punishments are so piss poor, they'll carry on doing it
Personally, all these countries that have crowd issues and racism issues time after time, hit them with a huge fine and sanctions which bring the club to the point where they HAVE to stamp it out.
Nations like Croatia that have issues, a few games behind closed doors won't do fuck all. I'm sure a Tournament ban would hit home with the powers to stamp Nazi fuckers out of their set up!
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jan 30, 2018 19:37:02 GMT
One other thing that I've never been sure on (slightly off topic)
Russia has THE MOST issues bar far with racism if what we read and hear is to be believed
Why the fuck do so many Brazilians and Black players play there then?
Or are we drip fed bollocks about Russia (similar to that what the BBC fed us about Ukraine and were literally a million miles off the actual reality) and their racism?
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 30, 2018 19:38:33 GMT
Yes strange that.......I wonder if they're as friendly with black people? I'm guessing not Maybe go and visit then you won't have to guess...... Sure if you pay....
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 30, 2018 20:02:25 GMT
Rascists.......very unpleasant. Should ban them from all competition for a decent length of time in my opinion. Yet go there on holiday and they're the friendliest most helpful people you could meet. Funny old world..... A friend of mine was taken in by a very friendly extended Italian family while on holiday in Rome. It was only when the evening meal was over and the impassioned toasts to Mussolini started did the penny drop...It's perfectly possible for someone of a fascist persuasion to be nice to you when they believe that you are one of their own...its when they find out you aren't that the trouble starts. Being the "wrong" colour just short circuits the process of working out if your blood (and political leanings and religion) are "pure". That and not all Croatian's are fascists...
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 30, 2018 20:34:33 GMT
For what it's worth I thought Croatia was one of the most beautiful countries I've visited, truly stunning. As I'm an unsocial fucker I didn't really integrate with the locals other than bar staff. Make of that what you will but Croatia is beautiful.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 30, 2018 22:15:03 GMT
One other thing that I've never been sure on (slightly off topic) Russia has THE MOST issues bar far with racism if what we read and hear is to be believed Why the fuck do so many Brazilians and Black players play there then? Or are we drip fed bollocks about Russia (similar to that what the BBC fed us about Ukraine and were literally a million miles off the actual reality) and their racism? The old USSR was ethnically very diverse and communism has generally had an inclusive attitude - any bias politically is more about class than ethnicity (as I understand it). Politically Putin identifies with the old soviet union - and recognises the political need for inclusivity to keep the thing together. Publicly at least people aren't usually that forthcoming when it comes to disagreeing with Putin, allegedly.. However...there are some pretty nasty nationalistic (and outright racist) groups at work in (old school european) Russia. I think there are parallels with the UK. We are a pretty small town nation at root - but the British Empire brought us into contact with a bigger world. The good thing is that it brought us into contact with other races, creeds and religions, Which fortunately has made us to some extent more open and inclusive. God bless you Cyril - and I mean that despite being an atheist. But then Brexit is closing the borders, So neo-fascism here we come.... On a holiday note - I went to Russia last year and the people I met were lovely. But they may well have been communist...
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 30, 2018 22:27:00 GMT
One other thing that I've never been sure on (slightly off topic) Russia has THE MOST issues bar far with racism if what we read and hear is to be believed Why the fuck do so many Brazilians and Black players play there then? Or are we drip fed bollocks about Russia (similar to that what the BBC fed us about Ukraine and were literally a million miles off the actual reality) and their racism? They are tempted by promises of riches that often don't materialise. Some are hounded out like Peter Odemwungie was. Some just tolerate it. But it's real and big.
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Post by 3putts on Jan 31, 2018 1:48:58 GMT
Rascists.......very unpleasant. Should ban them from all competition for a decent length of time in my opinion. Yet go there on holiday and they're the friendliest most helpful people you could meet. Funny old world..... allways say the same about turkey.they all hate us but in the resorts you will see plastic smiles
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 31, 2018 6:17:22 GMT
Croatia were forced to apologise after the symbol could be seen cut into the pitch during their European Championship Qualifier against Italy in Split in June 2015. The ruling carries over from the Euro 2016 qualifying phase instead of taking in the World Cup 2018 Qualifiers as that competition came under FIFA regulations. Why, Are Swastikas ok under FIFA Regs...
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Post by Boothen on Jan 31, 2018 6:25:54 GMT
Why, Are Swastikas ok under FIFA Regs... Dunno, do the FIFA regs also discriminate against Hindus?
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Post by nott1 on Jan 31, 2018 8:44:57 GMT
There's plenty of racism festering just under the surface in this country too......both ways!
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Post by flea79 on Jan 31, 2018 9:09:29 GMT
There's plenty of racism festering just under the surface in this country too......both ways! it amazes me that people cant get over the colour of another's skin or who they choose to share a bed with I don't see a black person or a gay person per say, I see a person, end of
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Post by thegift on Jan 31, 2018 9:15:38 GMT
Croatia is an amazing country, with amazing people.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 31, 2018 17:46:25 GMT
Maybe go and visit then you won't have to guess...... Probably just the actions of one or two rogue grounds staff. Hardly speaks for the attitudes of a nation. I lived in Croatia for quite a while (was dj'ing over there) and made many football mates. The Croatian FA are corrupt as hell, according to people i spoke with, and as far as I can gather, this was done on purpose so the Croatian FA would get major fines etc. I was told a story about some club that was gonna be relegated, and after a payoff the league was expanded I guess and they stayed up. I never really met any overtly racist people there at all, living there for almost a year. I could be totally wrong but what I gather it was a stunt to get their FA exposed and fined etc.
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Post by wapiti on Jan 31, 2018 20:16:42 GMT
Wonder what percentage of Neanderthal DNA exists in their population?
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