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Post by bozlemandy on Jan 21, 2018 14:51:20 GMT
I'm getting 11 or 12 including Watford who now will have manager bounce. But there's plenty of other clubs who will struggle to get that many. Is the 40 points target redundant this season?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 14:56:32 GMT
I think 35 is probably enough this year. There are 12 dreadful teams in the league this year. As long as we're a good 7/8 points clear by the time our difficult run comes around i think we'll be fine.
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Post by PolPotter on Jan 21, 2018 15:02:00 GMT
16 points is realistic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 15:03:53 GMT
We need 17 for the magic 40. Let's have a look:
Watford (H) - 3
AFC Bournemouth(A) - 1
Brighton & Hove Albion(H) - 3
Leicester City(A) - 0
Southampton(A) - 1
Manchester City(H) - 0
Everton(H) - 1
Arsenal(A) - 0
Tottenham Hotspur(H) - 0
West Ham United(A) - 1
Burnley(H) - 3
Liverpool(A) - 0
Crystal Palace(H) - 3
Swansea City(A) - 1
17 points - 4 wins and 5 draws. Relax, it's done. Enjoy your summer break everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 15:05:53 GMT
88 to many ?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 21, 2018 15:07:49 GMT
We need 17 for the magic 40. Let's have a look: Watford (H) - 3 AFC Bournemouth(A) - 1 Brighton & Hove Albion(H) - 3 Leicester City(A) - 0 Southampton(A) - 1 Manchester City(H) - 0 Everton(H) - 1 Arsenal(A) - 0 Tottenham Hotspur(H) - 0 West Ham United(A) - 1 Burnley(H) - 3 Liverpool(A) - 0 Crystal Palace(H) - 3 Swansea City(A) - 1 17 points - 4 wins and 5 draws. Relax, it's done. Enjoy your summer break everyone. Doubt we'll need 40 points. |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 21, 2018 15:08:15 GMT
15 points will see us safe. Let’s just get them as quickly as possible and be done with this relegation dogfight bollocks. Take it one game at a time, knowing that every one of our next five is very winnable. Unlikely that we’ll win five in the bounce, but that should be the immediate goal looking at who we’re facing.
Get through the next five and let’s see what we need from there.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 21, 2018 15:26:31 GMT
Interesting point re: new manager bounce. I still think we will beat Watford... There's certainly no guarantee that they will suddenly turn up and beat us. New managers this season have seen varying results in their first games, but it's interesting to note that they have all come against mediocre/poor opposition thus probably skewing the overall ratio slightly:
Everton (Allardyce) - W 2-0 v Huddersfield
West Ham (Moyes) - L 0-2 v Watford
Palace (Hodgson) - L 0-1 v Southampton
WBA (Pardew) - D 0-0 v Palace
Swansea (Carvalhal) - W 2-1 v Watford
Leicester (Puel) - W 2-0 v Everton
Stoke (Lambert) - W 2-0 v Huddersfield
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 21, 2018 15:30:31 GMT
Was amazed that Watford still in 10th place despite losing 8 and winning only 1 of their last 11 games. We are only 3 points behind them showing how tight the bottom half is. By the end of Feb we could be in a much healthier position.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 21, 2018 15:34:10 GMT
36 or 37 should be enough. However, we’ll need one point more than all those equal 18th unless our GD improves significantly. Apart from winning the 6 point relegation games, we have to avoid getting hammered by the teams in the top 6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 15:42:14 GMT
I think we'll need to pull of at least one shock result, plus only slipping up once! I would like to see a determined midfield player come in, with pace!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 15:56:43 GMT
Having done one of those league predictors, I have us finishing 15th on 34 points, with 30 points keeping you safe ???
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Post by nott1 on Jan 21, 2018 16:14:45 GMT
At least 27 more I reckon!
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Post by owdestokie on Jan 21, 2018 18:16:18 GMT
This not a TP reference!!!!!! However he got absolutely slated on here when he was adamant that the initial goal for the season was 40 points for security
Other well known Managers tend to use the same language/sentiments.
The Premier League is splitting between a top six, mid table and the relegation candidates, with a huge gap between the top 6 and the middle pack
Please no TP points
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 21, 2018 18:21:36 GMT
Laugh if you will, but I have an idea we could go the rest of the season unbeaten, with the exception of Man City, because we'll have a much tighter defence!
Watford (H) - 3
AFC Bournemouth(A) - 3
Brighton & Hove Albion(H) - 3
Leicester City(A) - 1
Southampton(A) - 3
Manchester City(H) - 0
Everton(H) - 3
Arsenal(A) - 1
Tottenham Hotspur(H) - 1
West Ham United(A) - 1
Burnley(H) - 3
Liverpool(A) - 1
Crystal Palace(H) - 3
Swansea City(A) - 3
That would put us on, what, 52?
Yes I know it's hugely unrealistic but it's not dissimilar to what Leicester did towards the end of the season before they won the title. (I'm not saying we will win the title next year BTW).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 18:37:20 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised to see a team stay up on 31 points.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 18:47:00 GMT
I'll go for this bet wise..
Watford (H) - 3
AFC Bournemouth(A) - 0
Brighton & Hove Albion() - 3
Leicester City(A) - 0
Southampton(A) - 0
Manchester City(H) - 1
Everton(H) - 1
Arsenal(A) - 0
Tottenham Hotspur(H) - 1
West Ham United(A) - 1
Burnley(H) - 1
Liverpool(A) - 0
Crystal Palace(H) - 3
Swansea City(A) - 0
TEST
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Post by Veritas on Jan 21, 2018 18:47:55 GMT
Laugh if you will, but I have an idea we could go the rest of the season unbeaten, with the exception of Man City, because we'll have a much tighter defence! Watford (H) - 3 AFC Bournemouth(A) - 3 Brighton & Hove Albion(H) - 3 Leicester City(A) - 1 Southampton(A) - 3 Manchester City(H) - 0 Everton(H) - 3 Arsenal(A) - 1 Tottenham Hotspur(H) - 1 West Ham United(A) - 1 Burnley(H) - 3 Liverpool(A) - 1 Crystal Palace(H) - 3 Swansea City(A) - 3 That would put us on, what, 52? Yes I know it's hugely unrealistic but it's not dissimilar to what Leicester did towards the end of the season before they won the title. (I'm not saying we will win the title next year BTW). Go and have a lie down |
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Post by alster on Jan 21, 2018 18:59:15 GMT
I'll go for this bet wise.. Watford (H) - 3 AFC Bournemouth(A) - 0 Brighton & Hove Albion() - 3 Leicester City(A) - 0 Southampton(A) - 0 Manchester City(H) - 1 Everton(H) - 1 Arsenal(A) - 0 Tottenham Hotspur(H) - 1 West Ham United(A) - 1 Burnley(H) - 1 Liverpool(A) - 0 Crystal Palace(H) - 3 Swansea City(A) - 0 TEST That's on the pessimistic side, think we'll beat Burnley at home get at least a draw vs Bournemouth and Southampton away and lose to Man City Spurs and probably West Ham too. Don't mind which 4 we win mind if we win 4 more we'll stay up. |
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Post by adamsson on Jan 21, 2018 19:04:45 GMT
Watford (H) - 3
AFC Bournemouth(A) - 3
Brighton & Hove Albion(H) - 3
Leicester City(A) - 1
Southampton(A) - 3
Manchester City(H) - 0
Everton(H) - 3
Arsenal(A) - 0
Tottenham Hotspur(H) - 0
West Ham United(A) - 1
Burnley(H) - 3
Liverpool(A) - 0
Crystal Palace(H) - 3
Swansea City(A) - 3
26 more points 49 points total should make the top half. I'm being optimistic but not stupidly so
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Post by salopstick on Jan 21, 2018 19:13:30 GMT
This not a TP reference!!!!!! However he got absolutely slated on here when he was adamant that the initial goal for the season was 40 points for security Other well known Managers tend to use the same language/sentiments. The Premier League is splitting between a top six, mid table and the relegation candidates, with a huge gap between the top 6 and the middle pack Please no TP points Yep but he would get his 40 points as quick as possible and the team would get on the beach. It will be April or even May before we get ours. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 21:07:14 GMT
26
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Post by manchesterpotter on Jan 21, 2018 21:12:30 GMT
I reckon between 15-20, which would be plenty enough to see us safe. 10 wins in a season should be enough to keep you up, we need four more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 21:48:52 GMT
Laugh if you will, but I have an idea we could go the rest of the season unbeaten, with the exception of Man City, because we'll have a much tighter defence! Watford (H) - 3 AFC Bournemouth(A) - 3 Brighton & Hove Albion(H) - 3 Leicester City(A) - 1 Southampton(A) - 3 Manchester City(H) - 0 Everton(H) - 3 Arsenal(A) - 1 Tottenham Hotspur(H) - 1 West Ham United(A) - 1 Burnley(H) - 3 Liverpool(A) - 1 Crystal Palace(H) - 3 Swansea City(A) - 3 That would put us on, what, 52? Yes I know it's hugely unrealistic but it's not dissimilar to what Leicester did towards the end of the season before they won the title. (I'm not saying we will win the title next year BTW). Drugs are great aren't they. |
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Post by Brist_AL on Jan 21, 2018 21:55:49 GMT
For information
Year safety Stoke Position points clear
2003 43
2004 34
2005 34
2006 35
2007 39
2008 37
2009 39 45 12 6
2010 31 47 11 16
2011 40 46 13 6
2012 37 45 14 8
2013 37 42 13 5
2014 36 50 9 14
2015 36 54 9 18
2016 38 51 9 13
Sorry columns didnt paste too well
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 21, 2018 22:04:06 GMT
Enough
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 21, 2018 22:30:05 GMT
Laugh if you will, but I have an idea we could go the rest of the season unbeaten, with the exception of Man City, because we'll have a much tighter defence! Watford (H) - 3 AFC Bournemouth(A) - 3 Brighton & Hove Albion(H) - 3 Leicester City(A) - 1 Southampton(A) - 3 Manchester City(H) - 0 Everton(H) - 3 Arsenal(A) - 1 Tottenham Hotspur(H) - 1 West Ham United(A) - 1 Burnley(H) - 3 Liverpool(A) - 1 Crystal Palace(H) - 3 Swansea City(A) - 3 That would put us on, what, 52? Yes I know it's hugely unrealistic but it's not dissimilar to what Leicester did towards the end of the season before they won the title. (I'm not saying we will win the title next year BTW). Drugs are great aren't they. Don't be silly. With the possible exception of the Arsenal and Liverpool games all those results are achievable. So I'll be generous and reduce my season total to 50 points. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 23:04:44 GMT
I think we will finish with 40 to 42 points
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 21, 2018 23:27:57 GMT
I'm just not thinking points, this season every one of our remaining games has to be a cup final and we have to knock whoever we're facing dead, fresh each time.
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Post by Linx on Jan 21, 2018 23:29:45 GMT
Wins - Watford; Bournemouth; Brighton; Southampton; Everton; Palace; Swansea
Draws - Burnley; West Ham;
Defeats - Leicester; Man City; Arsenal; Spurs; Liverpool
23 points (you saw it here first!)
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