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Post by skip on Jan 21, 2018 11:52:30 GMT
Great see Lambo on the touchline giving it loads. I'm going to put a dampener on it though. (Sorry) Manager touchline actions are always ace....if you win. If we had lost people on here would be slagging him off for it. When we beat Bolton at Wembo our manager's intensity on the sidelines was deemed a big positive and showed he was with hus players etc. Two years later the same hyperactive presence was considered the action of a control freak who was intimidating his players. There's only two games ever I can think of where different manager behaviour might have influenced a game. And that's not many. There's a big difference between Pulis and Lambert's man management on the touchline. I agree. Lambert yesterday appeared simply relieved and happy each time the goal went in. I don't think it was performative.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 21, 2018 11:55:52 GMT
I thought it was Berahino who went full David Pleat? <golf applause> Up the 18th as a final pair at The Open or a par putt?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 21, 2018 11:58:31 GMT
Thought it was appropriate yesterday but there is a fine line, we don't want need him going all Barry Fry!!!
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Post by skip on Jan 21, 2018 14:09:52 GMT
Up the 18th as a final pair at The Open or a par putt? Putt butt.
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Post by onionman on Jan 21, 2018 14:18:47 GMT
Great see Lambo on the touchline giving it loads. I'm going to put a dampener on it though. (Sorry) Manager touchline actions are always ace....if you win. If we had lost people on here would be slagging him off for it. When we beat Bolton at Wembo our manager's intensity on the sidelines was deemed a big positive and showed he was with hus players etc. Two years later the same hyperactive presence was considered the action of a control freak who was intimidating his players. There's only two games ever I can think of where different manager behaviour might have influenced a game. And that's not many. I always perform better at work when I can hear my boss screaming "Go on Jon" from his office, and my name's not even Jon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 14:21:27 GMT
Great see Lambo on the touchline giving it loads. I'm going to put a dampener on it though. (Sorry) Manager touchline actions are always ace....if you win. If we had lost people on here would be slagging him off for it. When we beat Bolton at Wembo our manager's intensity on the sidelines was deemed a big positive and showed he was with hus players etc. Two years later the same hyperactive presence was considered the action of a control freak who was intimidating his players. There's only two games ever I can think of where different manager behaviour might have influenced a game. And that's not many. I agree. I loved to watch it cause we were winning. But honestly, in general, I couldn't give a flying fuck what the manager does on the touchline.
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Post by onionman on Jan 21, 2018 14:32:47 GMT
Great see Lambo on the touchline giving it loads. I'm going to put a dampener on it though. (Sorry) Manager touchline actions are always ace....if you win. If we had lost people on here would be slagging him off for it. When we beat Bolton at Wembo our manager's intensity on the sidelines was deemed a big positive and showed he was with hus players etc. Two years later the same hyperactive presence was considered the action of a control freak who was intimidating his players. There's only two games ever I can think of where different manager behaviour might have influenced a game. And that's not many. I'm normally in this camp, but I think it made a genuine difference yesterday. We played with much more energy and that started on the touchline. Whenever the players were beginning to switch off and go back to Hughes mode, the manager on the touchline kept them going. I said the same thing yesterday but must admit I had a different opinion when Tim Sherwood did the exact same thing for effect in his first game at Villa. Ironically wasn't Sherwood trying to lift the gloom and set an example of "passion" after he replaced that sour miserable git Paul Lambert?
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jan 21, 2018 15:09:24 GMT
Thought it was appropriate yesterday but there is a fine line, we don't want need him going all Barry Fry!!! This. I don't get all this passion shite. Just because a manager jumps up and down like a madman means he has passion. All managers have passion, they wouldn't do the job otherwise? If he starts going all kloppy then words need be said!
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Post by bigvern on Jan 21, 2018 15:45:45 GMT
Every win for him is a step closer to winning the lottery. Can't blame the lad for going berserk.
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Post by eatonpotter on Jan 21, 2018 15:46:37 GMT
I'm staying on the fence until he gets a nice suit and some fucking shiny shoes, scruffy bastard 😂
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 21, 2018 15:49:34 GMT
Thought it was appropriate yesterday but there is a fine line, we don't want need him going all Barry Fry!!! This. I don't get all this passion shite. Just because a manager jumps up and down like a madman means he has passion. All managers have passion, they wouldn't do the job otherwise? If he starts going all kloppy then words need be said! Well.. that's the bonfire properly pissed on...
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Jan 21, 2018 15:49:44 GMT
He was brilliantly animated yesterday he went in for every tackle won every header it was nice to see! Also I enjoyed seeing the players celebrate the Allen goal, probably a huge relief and weight off their shoulders but everyone went too someone to celebrate. A few went into the boothen corner pieters ran down the line and jumped on choupo mad-ting, zouma and shawcross ran to eachother and I jumped on a steward!
Up the stoke!!
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Post by kustokie on Jan 21, 2018 17:00:09 GMT
Thought it was appropriate yesterday but there is a fine line, we don't want need him going all Barry Fry!!! This. I don't get all this passion shite. Just because a manager jumps up and down like a madman means he has passion. All managers have passion, they wouldn't do the job otherwise? If he starts going all kloppy then words need be said! I bet your missus doesn’t get this passion shite either! 😜
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jan 21, 2018 17:41:59 GMT
This. I don't get all this passion shite. Just because a manager jumps up and down like a madman means he has passion. All managers have passion, they wouldn't do the job otherwise? If he starts going all kloppy then words need be said! Well.. that's the bonfire properly pissed on... TP used to jump around and shout his bollox off all game, our team didnt show much passion for his last season, same as hughes' in last 18mths. 2 different types of passion, same end result?
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 21, 2018 18:11:37 GMT
Well.. that's the bonfire properly pissed on... TP used to jump around and shout his bollox off all game, our team didnt show much passion for his last season, same as hughes' in last 18mths. 2 different types of passion, same end result? Super Paul showed pure unbridled delight at our goals... Whatever you think about personalities and what's good or bad or indifferent... I loved It! I want more of it not less. Seriously think he's come back into management refreshed and reinvigorated.. Gòaaarrrnnn Paul.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 23, 2018 12:15:45 GMT
Just thought I'd bump this thread because of this lovely GIF
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Post by thegift on Jan 23, 2018 12:21:26 GMT
Great see Lambo on the touchline giving it loads. I'm going to put a dampener on it though. (Sorry) Manager touchline actions are always ace....if you win. If we had lost people on here would be slagging him off for it. When we beat Bolton at Wembo our manager's intensity on the sidelines was deemed a big positive and showed he was with hus players etc. Two years later the same hyperactive presence was considered the action of a control freak who was intimidating his players. There's only two games ever I can think of where different manager behaviour might have influenced a game. And that's not many. I agree. I loved to watch it cause we were winning. But honestly, in general, I couldn't give a flying fuck what the manager does on the touchline. it wouldn't bother you if he was slumped in his seat all game and we were losing most matches?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 12:24:20 GMT
I agree. I loved to watch it cause we were winning. But honestly, in general, I couldn't give a flying fuck what the manager does on the touchline. it wouldn't bother you if he was slumped in his seat all game and we were losing most matches? I don't think there is any correlation whatsoever between results and whether the manager jumps around a lot. If we were losing most matches and the manager was making poor decisions then i would be annoyed at that, not what he's doing on the touchline.
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Post by thegift on Jan 23, 2018 12:26:29 GMT
it wouldn't bother you if he was slumped in his seat all game and we were losing most matches? I don't think there is any correlation whatsoever between results and whether the manager jumps around a lot. If we were losing most matches and the manager was making poor decisions then i would be annoyed at that, not what he's doing on the touchline. That's not what i asked though?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 12:29:57 GMT
I don't think there is any correlation whatsoever between results and whether the manager jumps around a lot. If we were losing most matches and the manager was making poor decisions then i would be annoyed at that, not what he's doing on the touchline. That's not what i asked though? No it wouldn't bother me. If we lose lots of games it's not down to what the manager is doing on the touchline. I'd be bothered by what he or the players are doing wrong.
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Post by thegift on Jan 23, 2018 12:30:54 GMT
That's not what i asked though? No it wouldn't bother me. If we lose lots of games it's not down to what the manager is doing on the touchline. I'd be bothered by what he or the players are doing wrong. So you wouldn't want him trying to improve the team by shouting out beneficial things like positions, tactics, and trying to motivate them?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 12:34:21 GMT
No it wouldn't bother me. If we lose lots of games it's not down to what the manager is doing on the touchline. I'd be bothered by what he or the players are doing wrong. So you wouldn't want him trying to improve the team by shouting out beneficial things like positions, tactics, and trying to motivate them? There are literally no managers that don't shout things like that. Even the most docile.
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Post by mcw on Jan 23, 2018 12:41:40 GMT
Surely the body language of the manager transmits to most players- sat slumped in your seat when you are losing must transmit as this is over and there is nothing I can do to change the result. Being up and giving instructions/getting animated transmits as this is what we need to do to turn this around and either geeing them up or bollocking them to give more? Tactically the manager gives over responsibility to the team when they cross the white line, but the manager can then bring passion and instructions to the team during the game. Sitting like a sour faced wet kipper throughout the whole game or standing up and saying nothing with your arms crossed just imparts apathy in my opinion.
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Post by thegift on Jan 23, 2018 12:45:33 GMT
So you wouldn't want him trying to improve the team by shouting out beneficial things like positions, tactics, and trying to motivate them? There are literally no managers that don't shout things like that. Even the most docile. Pretty sure Hughes did as little as he could
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 12:49:34 GMT
There are literally no managers that don't shout things like that. Even the most docile. Pretty sure Hughes did as little as he could He still shouted tactics, positioning and motivation. Let's not make things up here. The issue was that what he did shout was wrong.
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Post by cruxmeister on Jan 23, 2018 13:13:16 GMT
I think the point here is that managers don't really choose whether they sit slumped, fold their arms or jump about, it is just an extension of their personality. We all say and do things at a football match that we wouldn't walking down the street. Raw emotion and reacting immediately to something is inherent, instinctive. Hughes wasn't a jumper and clapper, Lambert is. For us as fans, it is much easier to find affinity with someone who reacts to Stoke City the way we do. Lambo reacted like a fan and we obviously feel closer to that reaction than Hughes saying "right, we've scored... Xherdan... Sub lad".
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