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Post by wapiti on Jan 16, 2018 23:25:35 GMT
Just watched Liverpool beat Manchester city. The announcers were talking about the Manchester City keeper's role as a sweeper. Two of the four conceded goals (#2 and #4) had Manchester's keeper well out of his box and nowhere near the goal. They might have beaten or drawn with Liverpool if the keeper had stuck closer to his area. With Pep considered to be a footie genius, using the keeper like that seems a little reckless.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 16, 2018 23:27:51 GMT
Yeah he has no idea what he's doing  |
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Post by Veritas on Jan 16, 2018 23:28:34 GMT
Just watched Liverpool beat Manchester city. The announcers were talking about the Manchester City keeper's role as a sweeper. Two of the four conceded goals (#2 and #4) had Manchester's keeper well out of his box and nowhere near the goal. They might have beaten or drawn with Liverpool if the keeper had stuck closer to his area. With Pep considered to be a footie genius, using the keeper like that seems a little reckless. This approach carries a risk as with any defender playing it out and when it goes wrong it looks dreadful but Pep's Man City have done OK so far this year using this tactic. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 16, 2018 23:31:37 GMT
I'd love ours to be able to kick a ball to a bloke in red and white semi accurately.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 16, 2018 23:37:18 GMT
Yeah I heard that's the first game they've lost. Pep out. Get back in net Ederson.
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Post by wapiti on Jan 17, 2018 6:48:19 GMT
Just watched Liverpool beat Manchester city. The announcers were talking about the Manchester City keeper's role as a sweeper. Two of the four conceded goals (#2 and #4) had Manchester's keeper well out of his box and nowhere near the goal. They might have beaten or drawn with Liverpool if the keeper had stuck closer to his area. With Pep considered to be a footie genius, using the keeper like that seems a little reckless. This approach carries a risk as with any defender playing it out and when it goes wrong it looks dreadful but Pep's Man City have done OK so far this year using this tactic. I was just listening to the announcers going on about the sweeper-keeper, paying attention to see how they worked it and learn a bit about the game. Then I see Liverpool put two goals in the net with the keeper out in no man's land....maybe, less sweeping and more keeping would have worked better for them. The way Liverpool were playing them, I was surprised that Pep would allow the goal to be that exposed. He's already won the EPL but he'll need to fix that in future Champs League fixtures. |
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Post by salopstick on Jan 17, 2018 7:11:47 GMT
I think playing from the back makes perfect sense.
Time after time goalkeepers just lump it up top giving 50/50 balls which end up out as throwins or gifts to the oppo. Training defenders to buy in to this is a whole different prospect
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Post by nott1 on Jan 17, 2018 7:17:46 GMT
We need to pick Adam when we play them next!
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Post by slother on Jan 17, 2018 8:05:50 GMT
I think playing from the back makes perfect sense. Time after time goalkeepers just lump it up top giving 50/50 balls which end up out as throwins or gifts to the oppo. Training defenders to buy in to this is a whole different prospect Yeah, not to gloat or anything but I worked this out as a ten year old playing Striker on the Super Nintendo back in 1996. EDIT: However, for Stoke it has been a disaster. Fletcher and Allen receive the ball 20 yards inside our half and they're looking at a 40 yard pass toward Peter Crouch, Xherdan Shaqiri or EMCM. |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jan 17, 2018 8:17:13 GMT
I think playing from the back makes perfect sense. Time after time goalkeepers just lump it up top giving 50/50 balls which end up out as throwins or gifts to the oppo. Training defenders to buy in to this is a whole different prospect No issue regarding the lumping it up, i have issues with every fooker wanting keepers to be Franz fookin Beckenbauer, keeper should be commanding of their defence/agile/shot stoppers/brave/catch everything in the 6yd box......not pissing about trying to ping 70 yd passes on a sixpence. Give it to a defender/midfielder to do that. |
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Post by wapiti on Jan 17, 2018 18:22:42 GMT
I always enjoy it when a goalkeeper (not Stoke's, of course) tries to dribble the ball past an approaching attacking player.......often ending in a disaster. Sometimes, they should remain in the 6 yard box.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 18:48:48 GMT
I think playing from the back makes perfect sense. Time after time goalkeepers just lump it up top giving 50/50 balls which end up out as throwins or gifts to the oppo. Training defenders to buy in to this is a whole different prospect Yeah, not to gloat or anything but I worked this out as a ten year old playing Striker on the Super Nintendo back in 1996. EDIT: However, for Stoke it has been a disaster. Fletcher and Allen receive the ball 20 yards inside our half and they're looking at a 40 yard pass toward Peter Crouch, Xherdan Shaqiri or EMCM. That's the problem. Good system but needs good players to make it work. Hoofing it up field is easier to teach and far less risky. I always think playing out from the back needs a midfield general that can take the ball hold it, pass in any direction. You know Nzonzi |
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