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Post by silverdollar on Jan 18, 2018 15:52:18 GMT
The more I read your comments on this site it becomes abundantly clear who the tosser is. I am not a big fan of Rodwell but when he signed for his present club he entered into a legally binding contract that clearly stated his salary when and when not playing. I do not think for one moment that Rodwell has now down tools and does not want to play for Sunderland. He is not being selected and is not wanted. He wants to play football and is open to a move to a suitable club who would negotiate a new contract. Only an idiot would just tear up a present contract! Only an idiot would say he was a "tosser"
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Post by nott1 on Jan 18, 2018 15:55:58 GMT
The more I read your comments on this site it becomes abundantly clear who the tosser is. I am not a big fan of Rodwell but when he signed for his present club he entered into a legally binding contract that clearly stated his salary when and when not playing. I do not think for one moment that Rodwell has now down tools and does not want to play for Sunderland. He is not being selected and is not wanted. He wants to play football and is open to a move to a suitable club who would negotiate a new contract. Only an idiot would just tear up a present contract! Only an idiot would say he was a "tosser"[/b] No, he's a wanker!
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 18, 2018 15:56:29 GMT
Let's put it this way.... if Butland said tomorrow "I want the club to rip up my contract so that I can walk away for nothing" there would be uproar and he would, rightly, be labelled a wanker. People would be demanding that he honours his contract. Sunderland want to rip up Rodwell's contract so that they don't have to keep paying him (knowing that he's very difficult to sell). In this instance, they're in the wrong.
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Post by medwaypotter on Jan 18, 2018 15:58:56 GMT
Why on earth would his career be over at 26 ? Because he is perpetually injured So is Sturridge, won't stop clubs offering him something.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 16:06:30 GMT
All that is wrong with football. Money, money, money!
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Post by salopstick on Jan 18, 2018 16:48:39 GMT
If he wants to play football he could rip up his contract sign with another club play well and get a massive signing on fee and decent contract
Players generally don’t ask for moves officially as they want to get paid on the way out as well as the way in
He obviously doesn’t back him self
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 18, 2018 16:59:08 GMT
Lee Cattermole still under thirty, cooled his boots a bit. Perennial relegation scrapper, successfully a few times. Or is he irretrievably broken, doesn't seem to have played much recently. Wouldn't have massive demands, though seems to be on a long contract at Sunderland. But if they're looking to shed some skins.
Just a thought, could do with someone like him, at his best. Swap for Geoff Cameron.
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Post by werrington on Jan 18, 2018 17:02:07 GMT
All that is wrong with football. Money, money, money! No ...it’s real life
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 17:10:18 GMT
Lee Cattermole still under thirty, cooled his boots a bit. Perennial relegation scrapper, successfully a few times. Or is he irretrievably broken, doesn't seem to have played much recently. Wouldn't have massive demands, though seems to be on a long contract at Sunderland. But if they're looking to shed some skins. Just a thought, could do with someone like him, at his best. Swap for Geoff Cameron. Why on earth would we wan't a player that Sunderland fans don't think is good enough for a team at the bottom of the Championship? www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/cattermole-building-momentum-is-key-to-sunderland-for-this-season-and-beyond.1413401/
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 18, 2018 17:30:19 GMT
Lee Cattermole still under thirty, cooled his boots a bit. Perennial relegation scrapper, successfully a few times. Or is he irretrievably broken, doesn't seem to have played much recently. Wouldn't have massive demands, though seems to be on a long contract at Sunderland. But if they're looking to shed some skins. Just a thought, could do with someone like him, at his best. Swap for Geoff Cameron. Why on earth would we wan't a player that Sunderland fans don't think is good enough for a team at the bottom of the Championship? www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/cattermole-building-momentum-is-key-to-sunderland-for-this-season-and-beyond.1413401/Just a passing thought I thought I'd float. Thinking someone 'like' him as much as owt. Hadn't looked into it that closely, noticed he was out for a month, hadn't played much at all this season, last I saw he was praised for his performances. 29 vast experience of scrapping, was a hard/dirty twat, but could move the ball too {England U21}. I rated him as a gritty DM up until 12 months ago, but hadn't took any notice recently. Didn't think the link told me much, more an angered reaction to a comment he'd made, than how he's been playing. Someone with his minerals would be good. Off topic I think Bruno Martins-Indi has all the attributes to do a decent 'Whelan' job.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 18, 2018 17:56:21 GMT
Love all the people on here who would be prepared to rip up their own 70k a week contract for the love of playing football
Some very heroic and virtuous people on here who have made a very courageous decision in a situation that they will never ever be in!!!
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Post by blade on Jan 18, 2018 18:00:05 GMT
100% about money and there's no doubt that the top 6 clubs would like to collar every penny of it. Imagine how monotonous the Premier League would be with just Man C, Man U, Chelsea, Spurs(aka Harry Kane) Liverpool and Arsenal playing each other 4 times a season or something stupid?
Its only the minnows like SCFC who allow clubs like Man City to amass a huge lead in the league. The most interesting aspect of the Prem now seems to be the relegation dogfight.
When it comes to money how about the chosen 3 on Stoke's choice of Hughes replacement list using the Bet365 billions as a lever to manipulate a few more £m out of their current employers. You can't blame them one bit as you cannot blame Rodwell for demanding that his contract is honoured. The average weekly wage for an otherwise unemployable footballer(Berahino etc) is £50k PER WEEK!! OBSCENE!!!
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Post by skemstokie on Jan 18, 2018 18:21:56 GMT
Lee Cattermole still under thirty, cooled his boots a bit. Perennial relegation scrapper, successfully a few times. Or is he irretrievably broken, doesn't seem to have played much recently. Wouldn't have massive demands, though seems to be on a long contract at Sunderland. But if they're looking to shed some skins. Just a thought, could do with someone like him, at his best. Swap for Geoff Cameron. Swap Cameron for Catttermole ?no thanks.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 18, 2018 18:46:06 GMT
Lee Cattermole still under thirty, cooled his boots a bit. Perennial relegation scrapper, successfully a few times. Or is he irretrievably broken, doesn't seem to have played much recently. Wouldn't have massive demands, though seems to be on a long contract at Sunderland. But if they're looking to shed some skins. Just a thought, could do with someone like him, at his best. Swap for Geoff Cameron. Swap Cameron for Catttermole ?no thanks. New manager clean slate and that. Geoff's Stoke footballing adventure is over for me. Seen all of what he has and hasn't got. Hasn't had his main asset of physicality and nicking the ball either for 12 months plus. Summat for a change.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 18, 2018 18:56:29 GMT
Why on earth would his career be over at 26 ? Because he is perpetually injured I think being perpetually wank is more of a problem for him.
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Post by skemstokie on Jan 18, 2018 18:57:41 GMT
Swap Cameron for Catttermole ?no thanks. New manager clean slate and that. Geoff's Stoke footballing adventure is over for me. Seen all of what he has and hasn't got. Hasn't had his main asset of physicality and nicking the ball either for 12 months plus. Summat for a change. I would rather have Cameron injured than Cattermole fit it is all about opinion after all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 19:43:04 GMT
Off topic I think Bruno Martins-Indi has all the attributes to do a decent 'Whelan' job. Not totally sure how you see that. If you're talking about sitting infront of and protecting the defence, then yes BMI has the set, but Whelan also had a playmaker in him which mostly came out in ireland, but also some for us alongside Nzonzi, but I don't see Bruno doing that.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 18, 2018 20:01:41 GMT
Off topic I think Bruno Martins-Indi has all the attributes to do a decent 'Whelan' job. Not totally sure how you see that. If you're talking about sitting infront of and protecting the defence, then yes BMI has the set, but Whelan also had a playmaker in him which mostly came out in ireland, but also some for us alongside Nzonzi, but I don't see Bruno doing that. Hard to justify my opinion based on the little bits we've seen of this seasons Bruno. Last year when he was on it he could pass it or drive out with it. With high flying fullbacks Whelan often dropped back into defence, Bruno would have that covered. Academic I know but if it's a combative defensive shield we're in need of, and from within the ranks (if money is tight) then Bruno is best suited imo. Before Cameron, Zouma or Allen imo.
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Post by bardosboot on Jan 18, 2018 20:21:45 GMT
It's funny you mention that I drink in the bell in Shrewsbury. Billy Jones father does too. He said that that was going to happen to Billy too as Sunderland can't afford him. I wouldn't want him either btw despite pretending I would I Bill's dad. Strange, he's out of contract in the Summer.
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Post by bardosboot on Jan 18, 2018 20:23:13 GMT
The more I read your comments on this site it becomes abundantly clear who the tosser is. I am not a big fan of Rodwell but when he signed for his present club he entered into a legally binding contract that clearly stated his salary when and when not playing. I do not think for one moment that Rodwell has now down tools and does not want to play for Sunderland. He is not being selected and is not wanted. He wants to play football and is open to a move to a suitable club who would negotiate a new contract. Only an idiot would just tear up a present contract! Only an idiot would say he was a "tosser" You couldn't be more wrong, he's been pretending to be injured so he doesn't have to play, he's basically told a pack of lies in the article.
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Post by haway on Jan 18, 2018 20:26:57 GMT
Lee Cattermole still under thirty, cooled his boots a bit. Perennial relegation scrapper, successfully a few times. Or is he irretrievably broken, doesn't seem to have played much recently. Wouldn't have massive demands, though seems to be on a long contract at Sunderland. But if they're looking to shed some skins. Just a thought, could do with someone like him, at his best. Swap for Geoff Cameron. Yes please.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 18, 2018 20:38:14 GMT
Lee Cattermole still under thirty, cooled his boots a bit. Perennial relegation scrapper, successfully a few times. Or is he irretrievably broken, doesn't seem to have played much recently. Wouldn't have massive demands, though seems to be on a long contract at Sunderland. But if they're looking to shed some skins. Just a thought, could do with someone like him, at his best. Swap for Geoff Cameron. Yes please. It was only a passing thought Haway. Got an image of Lee driving down to us and just missing the deadline for us. Four years ago. Roadworks. Has he gone to shit?
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Post by haway on Jan 18, 2018 22:38:04 GMT
It was only a passing thought Haway. Got an image of Lee driving down to us and just missing the deadline for us. Four years ago. Roadworks. Has he gone to shit? Was it him missing the deadline or Poyet doing a last minute U-turn on the deal? He’s just turned rubbish. He can’t pass or tackle or run, he looks less mobile than Gareth Barry and he’s a decade younger than him. If Lambert would to offer a straight swap; him for Geoff Cameron...I would drive Cattermole to Stoke myself.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 18, 2018 23:38:29 GMT
All Sunderlands fault. Toxic bankrupt club with poor management
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jan 19, 2018 6:37:15 GMT
Now this is why stoke and other we'll run clubs miss out on players. There are few on here who say...come on scholes just do whatever it takes I.e.QSF and whole host of players over the years.
Some player demands sink clubs, I mean, at the time loads of teams would have wanted Rodwell. The no deduction on relegation has alienated himself....and made him loads of cash.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 9:06:39 GMT
I would. Very much. Billy, that is. There's not a position in a team that he can't play. Not saying he's a great player, but he's very useful. Several times this season I've thought, if only we had a player like Jones to play at lb, rb, rwb, cd, dm, cm... You mean like Geoff Cameron? GC doesnt do it on the left.
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Post by hooftastic on Jan 19, 2018 9:16:46 GMT
It was only a passing thought Haway. Got an image of Lee driving down to us and just missing the deadline for us. Four years ago. Roadworks. Has he gone to shit? Was it him missing the deadline or Poyet doing a last minute U-turn on the deal? He’s just turned rubbish. He can’t pass or tackle or run, he looks less mobile than Gareth Barry and he’s a decade younger than him. If Lambert would to offer a straight swap; him for Geoff Cameron...I would drive Cattermole to Stoke myself. No offence but I don't entirely trust the opinion of a set of supporters that voted Danny Collins the player of the season...... twice
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Post by haway on Jan 19, 2018 9:38:49 GMT
Was it him missing the deadline or Poyet doing a last minute U-turn on the deal? He’s just turned rubbish. He can’t pass or tackle or run, he looks less mobile than Gareth Barry and he’s a decade younger than him. If Lambert would to offer a straight swap; him for Geoff Cameron...I would drive Cattermole to Stoke myself. No offence but I don't entirely trust the opinion of a set of supporters that voted Danny Collins the player of the season...... twice Mint. Given how our supporters reckon he’s shit, that must mean you rate Cattermole. Sign Cattermole up then. Please...
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