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Post by hanibal7 on Jan 13, 2018 10:18:33 GMT
I would ask the squad players individually which ones want to play/fight for our club,then pick the team. Those players who are not 100% to take on the challenge they can hand in a transfer request!#overpaidfannies. So how many are going to say ohh fuck it i want to stay out of the cold weather, NONE. REALITY DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT,Surely the day to day training sorts that out, and thats why the manager picks his so called best team for the weekend based on body language, nursing strains etc etc
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Post by silverdollar on Jan 13, 2018 10:27:47 GMT
We are entering a new era at Stoke and we need more pace, more energy, more effort individually and as a team. I'd play 4-4-2 Butland Bauer, Zouma, Indi, Pieters Edwards, Cameron, Allen, Tymon Berahino Choupo Just spilt my coffee, after reading that, what has possessed you to write this drivel. Did it work on fifa manager or summat. I have forgotten more than you will ever know about football and have the experience and success as coach and manager to back my judgement up. It is about time Stoke fans realised the shit we are in as a team. We are in a dire state with many many of our players just not good enough for the battle we face. If you want to try and progress trusting in the players who have clearly shown that they are not good enough for the battle we face. We are desperate for players who are willing to run a lot further and make more tackles then you'll be watching Championship football next season. The side I picked is easy to pick holes in but at least it is balanced and more defsively sound.
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Post by hanibal7 on Jan 13, 2018 10:34:37 GMT
Just spilt my coffee, after reading that, what has possessed you to write this drivel. Did it work on fifa manager or summat. I have forgotten more than you will ever know about football and have the experience and success as coach and manager to back my judgement up. It is about time Stoke fans realised the shit we are in as a team. We are in a dire state with many many of our players just not good enough for the battle we face. If you want to try and progress trusting in the players who have clearly shown that they are not good enough for the battle we face. We are desperate for players who are willing to run a lot further and make more tackles then you'll be watching Championship football next season. The side I picked is easy to pick holes in but at least it is balanced and more defsively sound. Sounds like a bullshitter too, maybe i will tell you one day.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 13, 2018 10:43:02 GMT
Tough game 4-5-1
Jack Edwards Zouma Bruno Erik
Bauer Fletcher Adam Allen Sobhi
Choupo
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Post by silverdollar on Jan 13, 2018 11:47:18 GMT
I have forgotten more than you will ever know about football and have the experience and success as coach and manager to back my judgement up. It is about time Stoke fans realised the shit we are in as a team. We are in a dire state with many many of our players just not good enough for the battle we face. If you want to try and progress trusting in the players who have clearly shown that they are not good enough for the battle we face. We are desperate for players who are willing to run a lot further and make more tackles then you'll be watching Championship football next season. The side I picked is easy to pick holes in but at least it is balanced and more defsively sound. Sounds like a bullshitter too, maybe i will tell you one day. I suppose it might sound a bit like that if I was a mouthy tosser like yourself but I have lots of happy memories and experiences with great players who will tell you otherwise. But the end of the day it is only time that will define the calibre of person you are and your capabilities. I will stake a bet with you that if Flores takes up his position as Manager at Stoke that people such as Adam, Crouch, Fletcher, Johnson and a few more will disappear from the first team squad. Of course dependent upon who they can get in in three weeks. Shaqiri does some sublime things on a football pitch but he is a complete luxury when it comes to team play and the responsibility of defensive midfield play. He is also very limited when it comes to the physical athleticism of the Premier League. His stock is high at the moment. Flores might sell him!
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Post by enuntio on Jan 13, 2018 12:20:43 GMT
We are entering a new era at Stoke and we need more pace, more energy, more effort individually and as a team. I'd play 4-4-2 Butland Bauer, Zouma, Indi, Pieters Edwards, Cameron, Allen, Tymon Berahino Choupo Just spilt my coffee, after reading that, what has possessed you to write this drivel. Did it work on fifa manager or summat. 4-4-2 Rocks
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Post by fulagoals on Jan 13, 2018 12:25:24 GMT
One goal keeper, 9 defenders and one up front. Are you Richie Barker?
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jan 13, 2018 12:38:41 GMT
Sounds like a bullshitter too, maybe i will tell you one day. I suppose it might sound a bit like that if I was a mouthy tosser like yourself but I have lots of happy memories and experiences with great players who will tell you otherwise. But the end of the day it is only time that will define the calibre of person you are and your capabilities. I will stake a bet with you that if Flores takes up his position as Manager at Stoke that people such as Adam, Crouch, Fletcher, Johnson and a few more will disappear from the first team squad. Of course dependent upon who they can get in in three weeks. Shaqiri does some sublime things on a football pitch but he is a complete luxury when it comes to team play and the responsibility of defensive midfield play. He is also very limited when it comes to the physical athleticism of the Premier League. His stock is high at the moment. Flores might sell him! wow with all this experience you still pick Cameron! Hes a liability and the comments about his 'athleticism' are farcical.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Jan 13, 2018 13:04:31 GMT
If we have two other fit centre halves I would be tempted to push Zouma in front of the back 4 in an old fashioned sweeper role and play a 4132 formation.
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 13, 2018 13:08:53 GMT
Think we should rest as many first teamers as possible to keep them fresh for the next must win games....it’s worked before.
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Post by silverdollar on Jan 13, 2018 13:29:51 GMT
I suppose it might sound a bit like that if I was a mouthy tosser like yourself but I have lots of happy memories and experiences with great players who will tell you otherwise. But the end of the day it is only time that will define the calibre of person you are and your capabilities. I will stake a bet with you that if Flores takes up his position as Manager at Stoke that people such as Adam, Crouch, Fletcher, Johnson and a few more will disappear from the first team squad. Of course dependent upon who they can get in in three weeks. Shaqiri does some sublime things on a football pitch but he is a complete luxury when it comes to team play and the responsibility of defensive midfield play. He is also very limited when it comes to the physical athleticism of the Premier League. His stock is high at the moment. Flores might sell him! wow with all this experience you still pick Cameron! Hes a liability and the comments about his 'athleticism' are farcical. Having been a Physical Education teacher for some thirty five years I understand the word "athletic". Cameron is undoubtably athletic in comparison to all our other squad members. He has strength, stamina, pace, he can jump and to add to this he is mentally strong. Remember this is in comparison to other members of our squad. I have previously said that we are in a very bad way. There is no way I would change my mind about the side I picked other than add Shawcross to it and put Zouma into Midfield when fit.
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Post by DentySCFC on Jan 13, 2018 13:32:33 GMT
Butland Bauer Edwards Cameron Souttar Martins Indi Pieters Tymon Adam Allen Affelay
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 13, 2018 13:32:47 GMT
The women.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jan 13, 2018 13:34:58 GMT
wow with all this experience you still pick Cameron! Hes a liability and the comments about his 'athleticism' are farcical. Having been a Physical Education teacher for some thirty five years I understand the word "athletic". Cameron is undoubtably athletic in comparison to all our other squad members. He has strength, stamina, pace, he can jump and to add to this he is mentally strong. Remember this is in comparison to other members of our squad. I have previously said that we are in a very bad way. There is no way I would change my mind about the side I picked other than add Shawcross to it and put Zouma into Midfield when fit. Look back at the matches since Huddersfield and tell me how many goals were down to Cameron explain his athleticism for the Huddersfield goal.
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Post by silverdollar on Jan 13, 2018 14:52:01 GMT
Having been a Physical Education teacher for some thirty five years I understand the word "athletic". Cameron is undoubtably athletic in comparison to all our other squad members. He has strength, stamina, pace, he can jump and to add to this he is mentally strong. Remember this is in comparison to other members of our squad. I have previously said that we are in a very bad way. There is no way I would change my mind about the side I picked other than add Shawcross to it and put Zouma into Midfield when fit. Look back at the matches since Huddersfield and tell me how many goals were down to Cameron explain his athleticism for the Huddersfield goal. You are talking about decision making and intelligence! These are not down to athleticism. At no point have I tried to extol the virtues of any of our players because at present they are an undependable poor lot who all make mistakes but a side has to be put out to face Man Utd.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Jan 13, 2018 15:06:49 GMT
I was going to contribute more to this thread.... But then I realised the OP knows more than any of us about all of this stuff. Seems to me he wrote the book, might as well just give him the job and sit back while he brings us all the glory.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jan 13, 2018 15:17:33 GMT
Look back at the matches since Huddersfield and tell me how many goals were down to Cameron explain his athleticism for the Huddersfield goal. You are talking about decision making and intelligence! These are not down to athleticism. At no point have I tried to extol the virtues of any of our players because at present they are an undependable poor lot who all make mistakes but a side has to be put out to face Man Utd. The Huddersfield one was down to both decision making and athleticism. He couldn't catch the player with the ball who wasn't running at any great speed.
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Post by retired1 on Jan 13, 2018 15:18:23 GMT
The Man city team
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 15:48:00 GMT
All the cloggers we can possibly find!
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Post by localloser on Jan 13, 2018 16:01:58 GMT
Butland Bauer Edwards Cameron Souttar Martins Indi Pieters Tymon Adam Allen Affelay Not sure I fancy our chances even with 12 players on the pitch!
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Post by Dr Hesham on Jan 13, 2018 16:55:18 GMT
1st Substitute: Ramadan instead of Shaqiri or Choupo according to their performance 2nd substitute: Crouch instead of Diouf or beside him according to the result You've become Mark Hughes so much that you refuse to entertain the option of using a 3rd substitute. He would start with Crouch
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Post by silverdollar on Jan 14, 2018 10:33:14 GMT
You are talking about decision making and intelligence! These are not down to athleticism. At no point have I tried to extol the virtues of any of our players because at present they are an undependable poor lot who all make mistakes but a side has to be put out to face Man Utd. The Huddersfield one was down to both decision making and athleticism. He couldn't catch the player with the ball who wasn't running at any great speed. You just haven't listened to what I have to say have you! We can only pick a team from the players we have at Stoke. In terms of our squad Cameron is perhaps the most athletic. His stamina, strength and pace would most probably make him the most athletic at Stoke City in terms of measured performance. Decision making is certainly not his strength but sadly his team mates are not that much better.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 14, 2018 15:34:10 GMT
-------------Butland ----Edwards--BMI--Zouma--Pieters ---------Gcam----Fletch ---Shaq------Allen-----Choupo--------------YES SHAQ on Right and Choupo Right get some effing width. --------------Me ---------------------------If I fail fitness test, Berahino then Crouch for last 10 mins to sneak win
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Post by Saul Krakinov on Jan 14, 2018 15:44:19 GMT
In answer to the thread title "What team would you play against Man Utd?"
My honest answer is Man City!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 15:46:37 GMT
Butland
Bauer Zouma Martins Indi Pieters
Cameron Allen
Diouf Shaqiri Sobhi
Choupo Moting
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Post by Praetorian on Jan 14, 2018 15:50:21 GMT
Stoke City
4 – 2 – 3 – 1
Butland (GK)
Bauer – Zouma – BMI – Pieters
Cameron (C) – Allen
Sobhi – Shaqiri – Moting
Berahino
SUBS: Grant, Edwards, Shawcross, Crouch, Diouf, Affelay, Adam
Unused Subs: Wimmer, Ngoy, Tymon, Fletcher
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 14, 2018 15:50:57 GMT
Butland Bauer Zouma Martins Indi Pieters Cameron Allen Diouf Shaqiri Sobhi Choupo Moting Same players just swapping Diouf and Chopper around for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 15:55:48 GMT
Butland Bauer Zouma Martins Indi Pieters Cameron Allen Diouf Shaqiri Sobhi Choupo Moting Same players just swapping Diouf and Chopper around for me. If only play Diouf out wide rather than Choupo Moting due to his workrate and defensive capabilities......
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 14, 2018 16:02:04 GMT
Butland
Edwards Zouma BMI Pieters
Fletcher Allen Adam
Shaqiri Berahino Ramadan
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Post by upthefud on Jan 14, 2018 16:20:51 GMT
Butland
Edwards Zouma Shawcross BMI Wimmer Pieters
Cameron
Allen Fletcher
Diouf
Fuck it
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