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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 9, 2018 22:29:03 GMT
Cool name innit. Can't go wrong with a Moritz.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2018 22:29:50 GMT
Isn't that more with the quality of them? Theonlooker has mentioned how Bundesliga clubs are hiring in general younger managers, 30 year olds. You just wouldn't get that here. Every name we've been linked bar the two young onesie Rowett and Potter has a dud job where they massively fucked up. That's going to happen. But essentially it's a pool of shit we're sifting and we've got to hope we pull the turd that best fits. We managed with Hughes for 2 and half years. That's just how it is. People are raising genuine concerns. There's nowt wrong with that. You have said it though mate, anybody if you look hard enough is going to have discrepancies. I had a poster slag off AVB earlier after suggesting him to this davesviews. Said poster wouldn't have him because he's "arrogant" (in his view), that's the best reason he could come up with. Never heard anything so daft in my life Exactly and that's why I'm staying out of it on the whole. They're all a bit shit in one way or another. For the record I think AVB would be a disaster here.... 😂
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 9, 2018 22:31:51 GMT
Cool name innit. Can't go wrong with a Moritz. No need to mangle it now Joe.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 9, 2018 22:35:27 GMT
Cool name innit. Can't go wrong with a Moritz. No need to mangle it now Joe. I shall see what I can do. Where there's a will there's a relative.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 9, 2018 22:51:14 GMT
The worrying thing for me about this signing is that Mark Hughes wanted him. He wanted Arnie for a few million and we sold him for £25million so your point is? Imbula, Berahino and wimper perhaps
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 23:01:30 GMT
An intellectual and cultural heavyweight too it seems, in all fairness that's a decent skill set, could be the next 007 when he's done with us! Stoke City Football Club In Profile... 🗣️ Speaks five languages ✈️ Qualified pilot 🎹 Pianist 🏆 2017 Rubin Kazan player of the Year Haven't seen all of the Bond Movies but definitely missed the one where he played for Rubin Kazan
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 9, 2018 23:07:29 GMT
He wanted Arnie for a few million and we sold him for £25million so your point is? Imbula, Berahino and wimper perhaps Not every player he signed has been a failure if he signed them. Arnie, Bojan (pre injury) Grant , Allen , Sobi (early days yet albeit) Diouf and Affely all good signings, you could also argue Bera if used in the right system may and a big may, might of come good.
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Post by Gods on Jan 9, 2018 23:15:01 GMT
Cool name innit. Can't go wrong with a Moritz. Reminds me of the old Steve Miller Band classic 'The Joker', just flip Maurice for Moritz! Some people call me the space cowboy yeah Some call me the gangster of love Some people call me Moritz 'Cause I speak of the pompitous of love
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Post by prudhoe1981 on Jan 9, 2018 23:17:22 GMT
This guy speaks five languages, is a qualified pilot and is a pianist apparently. None of these talents are going to keep us up but...good to know right?
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Post by PenkPonther on Jan 10, 2018 2:42:28 GMT
Eh up, this youth's scored no goals in 143 appearances..! Is his full name Bauerhino?!?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:05:48 GMT
The worrying thing for me about this signing is that Mark Hughes wanted him. He wanted Arnie for a few million and we sold him for £25million so your point is? He also wanted Imbula for 18 million. He also wanted Berahino for 13 million. He also wanted Wimmer for 18 million. There are more but you already knew what my point was didn't you really?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:08:58 GMT
Can he manage a team?
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 10, 2018 10:11:47 GMT
This guy speaks five languages, is a qualified pilot and is a pianist apparently. None of these talents are going to keep us up but...good to know right? I’d argue that it says a lot about him as a person, in that he’s willing to apply himself in other areas of his life so he’s more likely to do that with his career too. Compare that with the likes of Imbula who couldn’t even be arsed learning the language when he arrived or even speaking to people on the training ground. Compare that with Jese who obviously had some personal circumstances beyond his control, it was clear he wasn’t in the right frame of mind to focus on his career. Especially in a country miles away from his ill child. Considering our position in the table I’d say a character reference is arguably as important as their technical abilities on the pitch.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 10, 2018 10:24:01 GMT
He wanted Arnie for a few million and we sold him for £25million so your point is? He also wanted Imbula for 18 million. He also wanted Berahino for 13 million. He also wanted Wimmer for 18 million. There are more but you already knew what my point was didn't you really? Not really all your saying is virtually every player Hughes signed was a failure, I'm saying until they play you can't know.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 10, 2018 10:26:47 GMT
This guy speaks five languages, is a qualified pilot and is a pianist apparently. None of these talents are going to keep us up but...good to know right? I’d argue that it says a lot about him as a person, in that he’s willing to apply himself in other areas of his life so he’s more likely to do that with his career too. Compare that with the likes of Imbula who couldn’t even be arsed learning the language when he arrived or even speaking to people on the training ground. Compare that with Jese who obviously had some personal circumstances beyond his control, it was clear he wasn’t in the right frame of mind to focus on his career. Especially in a country miles away from his ill child. Considering our position in the table I’d say a character reference is arguably as important as their technical abilities on the pitch. To his credit, that was one of TP's strengths. Players like Huth, Walters and Delap all brought much more to the team than simply their playing abilities. I loved Hughes' first three seasons which were much more enjoyable than some of our seasons under Pulis. But the lack of "character" (what TP called DNA) became more noticeable as time passed by and contributed to the situation we find ourselves in. That isn't to say that some of Hughes signings didn't have the right character - Jo Allen certainly does as do a few others but the proportion of Stoke City players with the strength of character has declined in recent years as players such as Walters, Huth and Delap have moved on. All teams benefit from flair players like Shaq and Arnie - but not unless they are surrounded by a few players with leadership and a few players who are prepared to die for the cause.
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Post by potterblade on Jan 10, 2018 10:29:16 GMT
Cool name innit. Can't go wrong with a Moritz. Reminds me of the old Steve Miller Band classic 'The Joker', just flip Maurice for Moritz! Some people call me the space cowboy yeah Some call me the gangster of love Some people call me Moritz 'Cause I speak of the pompitous of love Wit-woo!
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 10, 2018 10:33:51 GMT
I’d argue that it says a lot about him as a person, in that he’s willing to apply himself in other areas of his life so he’s more likely to do that with his career too. Compare that with the likes of Imbula who couldn’t even be arsed learning the language when he arrived or even speaking to people on the training ground. Compare that with Jese who obviously had some personal circumstances beyond his control, it was clear he wasn’t in the right frame of mind to focus on his career. Especially in a country miles away from his ill child. Considering our position in the table I’d say a character reference is arguably as important as their technical abilities on the pitch. To his credit, that was one of TP's strengths. Players like Huth, Walters and Delap all brought much more to the team than simply their playing abilities. I loved Hughes' first three seasons which were much more enjoyable than some of our seasons under Pulis. But the lack of "character" (what TP called DNA) became more noticeable as time passed by and contributed to the situation we find ourselves in. That isn't to say that some of Hughes signings didn't have the right character - Jo Allen certainly does as do a few others but the proportion of Stoke City players with the strength of character has declined in recent years as players such as Walters, Huth and Delap have moved on. All teams benefit from flair players like Shaq and Arnie - but not unless they are surrounded by a few players with leadership and a few players who are prepared to die for the cause. Whole-heartedly agree. Although I do think Arnie brought character to the dressing room. He had a personality, he might have been aggorant and self centric but he had so much confidence in himself that rubbed off on the rest of the team. So many Stoke players have spoken about how he added much needed character to our dressing room when he was still our player.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:38:55 GMT
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Post by Gods on Jan 10, 2018 11:41:03 GMT
Reminds me of the old Steve Miller Band classic 'The Joker', just flip Maurice for Moritz! Some people call me the space cowboy yeah Some call me the gangster of love Some people call me Moritz 'Cause I speak of the pompitous of love Wit-woo! Yes, it would sound hilarious if we throw the wolf whistle in too, can you imagine it, a strong contender for the campest chant ever
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 10, 2018 11:53:40 GMT
He wanted Arnie for a few million and we sold him for £25million so your point is? He also wanted Imbula for 18 million. He also wanted Berahino for 13 million. He also wanted Wimmer for 18 million. There are more but you already knew what my point was didn't you really? His cheapo signings seem to do much better so there's always hope.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 12:15:02 GMT
He likes the theatre and literature. From this day forward he will be known as “The Professor”
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Post by andystokey on Jan 10, 2018 14:57:44 GMT
I see he's been given the number 2 shirt, that says first choice to me in my old school mentality.
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Post by skemstokie on Jan 10, 2018 15:00:37 GMT
The worrying thing for me about this signing is that Mark Hughes wanted him. He wanted Arnie for a few million and we sold him for £25million so your point is? Agenda based post whinging is a hard habit to break.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 10, 2018 15:06:33 GMT
Ahhh, good to see that he has found the Regent 👍
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 10, 2018 15:44:25 GMT
He likes the theatre and literature. From this day forward he will be known as “The Professor” Are you old enough to remember Mr "Lah di Dah gunner Graham" out of "It ain't half hot, Mum?" Bauer can be our gunner Graham!
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 10, 2018 15:48:06 GMT
Naturally I hope he's a roaring success but I still find it odd we've signed him with no boss in place
Still that aside let's hope he is everything we want from a RB.
Good luck Moritz
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 10, 2018 15:54:02 GMT
Naturally I hope he's a roaring success but I still find it odd we've signed him with no boss in place Still that aside let's hope he is everything we want from a RB. Good luck Moritz A youngish attacking full back, with pace, who was 2017 player of the year at a decent club, is someone most Premier League fans of clubs below the top 6 would be comfortable with. Obviously most players look good on Youtube but the fact that he was player of the year last year suggests we may have signed someone who is made of "the right stuff". Put it this way I doubt if Wimmer or Imbula ever got player of the year at any of their clubs.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 10, 2018 15:58:23 GMT
Naturally I hope he's a roaring success but I still find it odd we've signed him with no boss in place Still that aside let's hope he is everything we want from a RB. Good luck Moritz A youngish attacking full back, with pace, who was 2017 player of the year at a decent club, is someone most Premier League fans of clubs below the top 6 would be comfortable with. Obviously most players look good on Youtube but the fact that he was player of the year last year suggests we may have signed someone who is made of "the right stuff". Put it this way I doubt if Wimmer or Imbula ever got player of the year at any of their clubs. let's hope your right and he is all we need in a RB Both full back roles have needed addressing in my opinion (amongst others) If he's as good as the lad at Southampton he was after then he should be good
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 10, 2018 16:05:13 GMT
A youngish attacking full back, with pace, who was 2017 player of the year at a decent club, is someone most Premier League fans of clubs below the top 6 would be comfortable with. Obviously most players look good on Youtube but the fact that he was player of the year last year suggests we may have signed someone who is made of "the right stuff". Put it this way I doubt if Wimmer or Imbula ever got player of the year at any of their clubs. let's hope your right and he is all we need in a RB Both full back roles have needed addressing in my opinion (amongst others) If he's as good as the lad at Southampton he was after then he should be good I notice that the average temperature in the area of the Kazan Stadium is minus 15C at the moment - so he'll probably get heat stroke in his first few days in sunny Stoke!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2018 16:52:06 GMT
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