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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 6, 2018 19:21:55 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 6, 2018 19:22:48 GMT
Did you hear Lennie on the radio talking about him? Let's just say, he doesn't agree with his managerial "style" |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:24:34 GMT
I am all for it but after listening to Liam on the radio he thinks he will set high standards (which is right) but will crush some of the players and it would do more damage than good. That could be his opinion because he was a plyer who was crushed?? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 6, 2018 19:24:35 GMT
Lawrence:
"Believe me, the last man you want coming here is Roy Keane - and I should know"
Keane strikes me as dressing room poison.
I'd reluctantly take MON - but I'd draw the line at him.
He's just a truculent arsehole.
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 6, 2018 19:24:56 GMT
Did you hear Lennie on the radio talking about him? Let's just say, he doesn't agree with his managerial "style" I did hear that!  He did say he improved some players though which is whats needed! |
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 6, 2018 19:25:25 GMT
We will either have a team of mummys little soldiers who don't like him or some who may need that discipline and bullying to get them going.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 6, 2018 19:26:59 GMT
Would be as bad as Giggs
Coates isn't completely senile (I hope)
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 6, 2018 19:28:26 GMT
Lawrence: "Believe me, the last man you want coming here is Roy Keane - and I should know" Keane strikes me as dressing room poison. I'd reluctantly take MON - but I'd draw the line at him. He's just a truculent arsehole. Mate I hate Keane with a passion but I also hate the spiritless troupe of fairies who wear the red and white at the moment. Even if he (and O'Neil) takes us down at least he would give some of these complacent tossrags a bit of a kicking for 4 months. PS I don't really want him, I'd put up with O'Neil as a last resort  |
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Post by chell_rosey on Jan 6, 2018 19:29:13 GMT
Did you hear Lennie on the radio talking about him? Let's just say, he doesn't agree with his managerial "style" He's not alone, either. |
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jan 6, 2018 19:36:01 GMT
At least it will be refreshing not to have completely gutless yes man as a number 2
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 19:38:46 GMT
Did you hear Lennie on the radio talking about him? Let's just say, he doesn't agree with his managerial "style" He's not alone, either. I spoke at length to another former player who played for Keane who said exactly the same thing although his language talking about Keane was far more colourful. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 6, 2018 19:39:22 GMT
Better the devil you know
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Post by winfos on Jan 6, 2018 19:40:35 GMT
I can see harry redknapp till the end of the season, if not Gary monk, personally I think I would go for karanka he would tighten the back line and maybe bring the best out of bojan too
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Jan 6, 2018 19:59:14 GMT
If that cowardly thug sets foot in the Bet365 it will be the end of my 40 year association with Stoke City
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 20:01:40 GMT
I can see harry redknapp till the end of the season, if not Gary monk, personally I think I would go for karanka he would tighten the back line and maybe bring the best out of bojan too he followed Mark Hughes at QPR and remember how that turned out! |
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Post by Gunslinger on Jan 6, 2018 20:06:58 GMT
I absolutely detest Roy Keane after his assault on Alf Inge Haaland. Why not bring Joey Barton to the club as well while we're at it.
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Post by chell_rosey on Jan 6, 2018 20:14:58 GMT
I spoke at length to another former player who played for Keane who said exactly the same thing although his language talking about Keane was far more colourful. He'd be a poor choice. He's a bully and has a very destructive management style. |
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Post by banksisgod on Jan 6, 2018 21:42:23 GMT
A poor choice? Why?
I can't think of a more influential player in the history of the premier league. Not only was he a great player (dirty, but great), but he got 10/20% more out of all the players around him though a mixture of respect and fear. He learned a very important lesson at Sunderland by discovering that all players weren't as good as he was, and has played a key role in making a very average Irish squad into an organised an disciplined unit.
Furthermore, I don't get the double-standards of some supporters, which allows them to condemn Keane for the Haaland incident (and rightly so) yet extol the virtues of the likes of Smith, Clamp, Kennedy, amongst others. It's pretty clear to me that, had he played for Stoke, Keane would be for ever more worshipped like a God.
Maybe the hatred is just a poorly disguised anti-Irish thing from some.
One thing is for sure; if he does show up here with O'Neill, they'll get the very best out of what we already have, and will buy players who know how to fight.
Some of the people on this board really amuse me. Jesus, talk about "looking a gift horse in the mouth"?!?! Do you really think that someone like Mancini would bother his arse even talking to Stoke, let alone come here? Seriously? To a relegation dog-fight, with little money to spend, and no good hair-dressers nearby?
If O'Neill and Keane could be convinced to come here to steady the ship 'til the end of the season, and keep us up, that would be a huge result. Then, if Rodgers could be seduced into taking over after that, that would be as close to football Nirvana as we could ever get.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 21:44:49 GMT
I think when you're winning under Keane it's ok but once you start losing and heads drop his style is all wrong. He absolutely nails his players and kills morale. I don't think it could get any lower than it is now, but still don't think he'd be the right man.
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Jan 6, 2018 21:55:18 GMT
A poor choice? Why? I can't think of a more influential player in the history of the premier league. Not only was he a great player (dirty, but great), but he got 10/20% more out of all the players around him though a mixture of respect and fear. He learned a very important lesson at Sunderland by discovering that all players weren't as good as he was, and has played a key role in making a very average Irish squad into an organised an disciplined unit. Furthermore, I don't get the double-standards of some supporters, which allows them to condemn Keane for the Haaland incident (and rightly so) yet extol the virtues of the likes of Smith, Clamp, Kennedy, amongst others. It's pretty clear to me that, had he played for Stoke, Keane would be for ever more worshipped like a God. Maybe the hatred is just a poorly disguised anti-Irish thing from some. One thing is for sure; if he does show up here with O'Neill, they'll get the very best out of what we already have, and will buy players who know how to fight. Some of the people on this board really amuse me. Jesus, talk about "looking a gift horse in the mouth"?!?! Do you really think that someone like Mancini would bother his arse even talking to Stoke, let alone come here? Seriously? To a relegation dog-fight, with little money to spend, and no good hair-dressers nearby? If O'Neill and Keane could be convinced to come here to steady the ship 'til the end of the season, and keep us up, that would be a huge result. Then, if Rodgers could be seduced into taking over after that, that would be as close to football Nirvana as we could ever get. My hairdressers is orate! Partners, Longton - check it out! |
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Post by banksisgod on Jan 6, 2018 21:58:04 GMT
He's a very different guy now to the one you've described. Anyway, I expect he would be part of the regular double-act, with M. O'N as the arm-around-the-shoulder, ego-building element, with Keane as the driving force.
Trust me, the Irish national side is really and truly shit, with few redeeming features, yet this pair has made them organised and competitive (save for the debacle against Denmark)
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 6, 2018 22:19:09 GMT
Two men who learned from Clough and Ferguson surely would guide us away from trouble!
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Post by FrankButcher on Jan 6, 2018 22:22:26 GMT
Lawrence: "Believe me, the last man you want coming here is Roy Keane - and I should know" Keane strikes me as dressing room poison. I'd reluctantly take MON - but I'd draw the line at him. He's just a truculent arsehole. He wont be coming in as the manager though he would be O'Neills assistant and anyway liams talking about when keane was at sunderland around 10 years ago he might have changed his methods a manager who knows |
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 6, 2018 22:25:29 GMT
Lawrence: "Believe me, the last man you want coming here is Roy Keane - and I should know" Keane strikes me as dressing room poison. I'd reluctantly take MON - but I'd draw the line at him. He's just a truculent arsehole. yeah... But he would be OUR truculent arsehole.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 23:18:39 GMT
We do not look good at all.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Jan 6, 2018 23:18:59 GMT
A poor choice? Why? I can't think of a more influential player in the history of the premier league. Not only was he a great player (dirty, but great), but he got 10/20% more out of all the players around him though a mixture of respect and fear. He learned a very important lesson at Sunderland by discovering that all players weren't as good as he was, and has played a key role in making a very average Irish squad into an organised an disciplined unit. Furthermore, I don't get the double-standards of some supporters, which allows them to condemn Keane for the Haaland incident (and rightly so) yet extol the virtues of the likes of Smith, Clamp, Kennedy, amongst others. It's pretty clear to me that, had he played for Stoke, Keane would be for ever more worshipped like a God. Maybe the hatred is just a poorly disguised anti-Irish thing from some. One thing is for sure; if he does show up here with O'Neill, they'll get the very best out of what we already have, and will buy players who know how to fight. Some of the people on this board really amuse me. Jesus, talk about "looking a gift horse in the mouth"?!?! Do you really think that someone like Mancini would bother his arse even talking to Stoke, let alone come here? Seriously? To a relegation dog-fight, with little money to spend, and no good hair-dressers nearby? If O'Neill and Keane could be convinced to come here to steady the ship 'til the end of the season, and keep us up, that would be a huge result. Then, if Rodgers could be seduced into taking over after that, that would be as close to football Nirvana as we could ever get. What a load of crap! Keane deliberately set out to seriously injure a player (and succeeded in ending his career) after Keane injured himself in fouling the same player in a previous match! Did he have ANY success at all as manager of Ipswich or Sunderland??? O'Neill-OK until the end of the season, but if Keane turns up, that's me finished. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 23:27:07 GMT
So 'spitroast lennie'-doesnt like Roy Keane cos hes a hardass eh? I happen to think a heartless, hardnosed,utterly ruthless bastard who does not suffer fools at all, might be exactly what stoke city needs right now.
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 6, 2018 23:28:39 GMT
A poor choice? Why? I can't think of a more influential player in the history of the premier league. Not only was he a great player (dirty, but great), but he got 10/20% more out of all the players around him though a mixture of respect and fear. He learned a very important lesson at Sunderland by discovering that all players weren't as good as he was, and has played a key role in making a very average Irish squad into an organised an disciplined unit. Furthermore, I don't get the double-standards of some supporters, which allows them to condemn Keane for the Haaland incident (and rightly so) yet extol the virtues of the likes of Smith, Clamp, Kennedy, amongst others. It's pretty clear to me that, had he played for Stoke, Keane would be for ever more worshipped like a God. Maybe the hatred is just a poorly disguised anti-Irish thing from some. One thing is for sure; if he does show up here with O'Neill, they'll get the very best out of what we already have, and will buy players who know how to fight. Some of the people on this board really amuse me. Jesus, talk about "looking a gift horse in the mouth"?!?! Do you really think that someone like Mancini would bother his arse even talking to Stoke, let alone come here? Seriously? To a relegation dog-fight, with little money to spend, and no good hair-dressers nearby? If O'Neill and Keane could be convinced to come here to steady the ship 'til the end of the season, and keep us up, that would be a huge result. Then, if Rodgers could be seduced into taking over after that, that would be as close to football Nirvana as we could ever get. What a load of crap! Keane deliberately set out to seriously injure a player (and succeeded in ending his career) after Keane injured himself in fouling the same player in a previous match! Did he have ANY success at all as manager of Ipswich or Sunderland??? O'Neill-OK until the end of the season, but if Keane turns up, that's me finished. Yes he did have success at Sunderland, took over when they were next to bottom of the championship and they stormed up the table under Keane and finished the season as champions! |
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 7, 2018 0:00:22 GMT
I can't remember where I read it but someone said Alan Ball was a shit manager/coach because he couldn't understand why a player couldn't do what came naturally to him.
Keane is the same, naturally gifted footballer but a shit coach.
Love him as a pundit but a complete car crash as a coach.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 7, 2018 0:17:52 GMT
I can't remember where I read it but someone said Alan Ball was a shit manager/coach because he couldn't understand why a player couldn't do what came naturally to him. Keane is the same, naturally gifted footballer but a shit coach. Love him as a pundit but a complete car crash as a coach. In fairness he is a total tit as a person which is the baseline for anyone. Sure he could play football but Manage???? no |
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