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Post by slicko on Jan 5, 2018 19:52:30 GMT
Bojan, the next Messi, failing at Stoke and on loan.
Imbula, Porto’s 20 million Euro signing, failed at Stoke and on loan.
Berahino, plenty of opportunity to shine, failing at Stoke City.
Shawcross, raw untapped talent turning into rawer, untapped talent.
The starting eleven, playing each game like a testimonial.
Are these failings in part due to a lack of motivation? Perhaps it’s not too late to set new challenges for the remaining games.
Has complacency spoiled them or can the current management team motivate them? I think we’ll just about do it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 19:59:35 GMT
Bojan, the next Messi, failing at Stoke and on loan. Imbula, Porto’s 20 million Euro signing, failed at Stoke and on loan. Berahino, plenty of opportunity to shine, failinig at Stoke City. Shawcross, raw untapped talent turning into rawer, untapped talent. The starting eleven, playing each game like a testimonial. Are these failings in part due to a lack of motivation? Perhaps it’s not too late to set new challenges for the remaining games. Has complacency spoiled them or can the current management team motivate them? I think we’ll just about do it. Shawcross raw untapped talent? Ryan peaked years ago and has been a fantastic servant for us |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 19:59:45 GMT
Bojan, the next Messi, failing at Stoke and on loan. Imbula, Porto’s 20 million Euro signing, failed at Stoke and on loan. Berahino, plenty of opportunity to shine, failing at Stoke City. Shawcross, raw untapped talent turning into rawer, untapped talent. The starting eleven, playing Each game like a testimonial. Are these failings in part due to a lack of motivation. Perhaps it’s not too late to set new challenges for the remaining games. Has complacency spoiled them or can the current management team motivate them? I think we’ll just about do it. Bojan was our second top scorer in the last season where he started more than two games in a row. Imbula has his faults but has massive talent. Barely played last year despite good showings and needing midfield drive. Berahino has looked good this season despite only starting 3 games, none of which consecutive. Shawcross is captain of the club and is still the best defender we have having seen Zouma's recent form. The starting eleven are being told to sit deep and lump it to a stationary beanpole, and are given what seems like no defensive training whatsoever. The management aren't utilising them correctly, there are issues in the squad (defensive midfield mostly), but if we played to our strengths, tried to attack and keep the ball rather than parking the bus and hoofing it to Crouch, we'd be far better off. |
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Post by slicko on Jan 5, 2018 20:01:18 GMT
Bojan, the next Messi, failing at Stoke and on loan. Imbula, Porto’s 20 million Euro signing, failed at Stoke and on loan. Berahino, plenty of opportunity to shine, failinig at Stoke City. Shawcross, raw untapped talent turning into rawer, untapped talent. The starting eleven, playing each game like a testimonial. Are these failings in part due to a lack of motivation? Perhaps it’s not too late to set new challenges for the remaining games. Has complacency spoiled them or can the current management team motivate them? I think we’ll just about do it. Shawcross raw untapped talent? Ryan peaked years ago and has been a fantastic servant for us Agree but I bet someone like Klopp would tidy up his game |
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 5, 2018 20:07:14 GMT
Bojan, the next Messi, failing at Stoke and on loan. Imbula, Porto’s 20 million Euro signing, failed at Stoke and on loan. Berahino, plenty of opportunity to shine, failing at Stoke City. Shawcross, raw untapped talent turning into rawer, untapped talent. The starting eleven, playing each game like a testimonial. Are these failings in part due to a lack of motivation? Perhaps it’s not too late to set new challenges for the remaining games. Has complacency spoiled them or can the current management team motivate them? I think we’ll just about do it. Bojan don't make me laugh lack of motivation is Stokes fault The waster has flopped at every club he's been at it can't be stoke's fault every time |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 20:16:17 GMT
Shawcross raw untapped talent? Ryan peaked years ago and has been a fantastic servant for us Agree but I bet someone like Klopp would tidy up his game A bloody good physio is the only things Ryan needs lately! His back is done in. Just getting him fit will be a start |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 5, 2018 20:18:03 GMT
Strange thread.
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Post by slicko on Jan 5, 2018 20:18:38 GMT
Agree but I bet someone like Klopp would tidy up his game A bloody good physio is the only things Ryan needs lately! His back is done in. Just getting him fit will be a start Didn’t we used to have the best physio’s in the Premier until Sparky demotivated them? Bring Eva Carniero back, I say |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 20:18:40 GMT
One thing I do know is that Ryan should for the sake of himself and his body just stop now
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Post by slicko on Jan 5, 2018 20:19:56 GMT
I don’t think you can blame the drop in performance on the kit’s stitching my friend. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 20:20:44 GMT
A bloody good physio is the only things Ryan needs lately! His back is done in. Just getting him fit will be a start Didn’t we used to have the best physio’s in the Premier until Sparky demotivated them? Bring Carniero back, I say Ryan’s back problems started when Pulis was here, nobody’s fault it’s just one of them things. Pretty sure Pulis even made him go the dentist to try cure it |
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Post by blade on Jan 5, 2018 20:50:47 GMT
Having read this article from a Bet365 employee it makes you wonder if some of the issues are endemic in financially rich structures.
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Team Leaders clearly not qualified or able to cope with the role, with training courses being provided for them only recently in order for them to handle the simple day-to-day tasks.
Very top-heavy structure with hardly any engineers and far too many senior engineers, managers and team leaders. No room for growth any more despite more staff being looked for and desks already shrinking in order to fit people in.
Ridiculous parking situation means you need to add another hour or two to your day in order to secure a space and queue to get out. Far too many people, not enough space anywhere.
Feedback on issues ignored, preferential treatment given to some staff, 30 minute lunch break, no flexibility in working hours. A heavy focus on your failures and a complete ignorance on any achievements you have made.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 20:56:50 GMT
One thing I do know is that Ryan should for the sake of himself and his body just stop now So you're an orthopaedic /spinal surgeon are you? |
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jan 5, 2018 21:04:56 GMT
Bojan, the next Messi, failing at Stoke and on loan. Imbula, Porto’s 20 million Euro signing, failed at Stoke and on loan. Berahino, plenty of opportunity to shine, failing at Stoke City. Shawcross, raw untapped talent turning into rawer, untapped talent. The starting eleven, playing each game like a testimonial. Are these failings in part due to a lack of motivation? Perhaps it’s not too late to set new challenges for the remaining games. Has complacency spoiled them or can the current management team motivate them? I think we’ll just about do it. They aren’t motivated because the club management have allowed us to become a “nowhere” club |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 5, 2018 21:50:06 GMT
Bera failing? He doesn't get the chances to do anything else.
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 5, 2018 22:09:32 GMT
Bojan, the next Messi, failing at Stoke and on loan. Imbula, Porto’s 20 million Euro signing, failed at Stoke and on loan. Berahino, plenty of opportunity to shine, failing at Stoke City. Shawcross, raw untapped talent turning into rawer, untapped talent. The starting eleven, playing each game like a testimonial. Are these failings in part due to a lack of motivation? Perhaps it’s not too late to set new challenges for the remaining games. Has complacency spoiled them or can the current management team motivate them? I think we’ll just about do it. Bojan was becoming a special player for us before his injury. Imbula was a terrible signing and has obviously had attitude problems for a long time. We should have smelt the rat when Porto allowed us to buy him only 6 months after he signed for them. Berahino has been played in a system that even the most clinical strikers would struggle to score in. Still not seen enough of him in a suitable system to judge him fairly. Shawcross doesn’t look demotivated he’s just broken. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 5, 2018 22:15:30 GMT
No-ones mentioned the player who looked least motivated against Newcastle.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 5, 2018 22:16:30 GMT
Shawcross raw untapped talent? Ryan peaked years ago and has been a fantastic servant for us Agree but I bet someone like Klopp would tidy up his game Klopp is not exactly renowned for his work on defensive play |
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 5, 2018 22:24:48 GMT
Bojan, the next Messi, failing at Stoke and on loan. Imbula, Porto’s 20 million Euro signing, failed at Stoke and on loan. Berahino, plenty of opportunity to shine, failing at Stoke City. Shawcross, raw untapped talent turning into rawer, untapped talent. The starting eleven, playing each game like a testimonial. Are these failings in part due to a lack of motivation? Perhaps it’s not too late to set new challenges for the remaining games. Has complacency spoiled them or can the current management team motivate them? I think we’ll just about do it. Bojan was already in trouble career wise well before he got here, hence the price...... Imbula was bad business and his attitude problems had already surfaced before we got him, Berahino had been failing for well over a year before we bought him and Shawcross was brilliant for us for a few seasons before he got injured. I sort of understand your point although it's clearly lack of good management rather than motivation that is our problem. |
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Post by march4 on Jan 5, 2018 22:29:58 GMT
We will see a different team under a new manager.
Indeed any decent manager will create a team not the current bedraggled set of individuals who look like they have never met before.
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Post by slicko on Jan 5, 2018 22:40:55 GMT
Agree but I bet someone like Klopp would tidy up his game Klopp is not exactly renowned for his work on defensive play Virgil Van Dyke? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 22:46:40 GMT
Bojan, the next Messi, failing at Stoke and on loan. Imbula, Porto’s 20 million Euro signing, failed at Stoke and on loan. Berahino, plenty of opportunity to shine, failing at Stoke City. Shawcross, raw untapped talent turning into rawer, untapped talent. The starting eleven, playing each game like a testimonial. Are these failings in part due to a lack of motivation? Perhaps it’s not too late to set new challenges for the remaining games. Has complacency spoiled them or can the current management team motivate them? I think we’ll just about do it. I think you’re on to something with the lack of motivation It’s when they realised that the club looking to build the team on the cheap by ramming all those kids in instead of making quality signings |
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 6, 2018 8:16:36 GMT
Klopp is not exactly renowned for his work on defensive play Virgil Van Dyke? He bought the player. He didn’t develop him. |
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Post by slicko on Jan 6, 2018 8:31:23 GMT
He bought the player. He didn’t develop him. He trained, he’s been in contact for months, he scored and put Liverpool through to the next round. You don’t think Klopp motivated or guided him? |
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jan 6, 2018 9:06:51 GMT
Hughes’ comments in Sentinel re today:
““We keep talking about momentum. Momentum changes outside the game and outside the club, but it changes within the 90 minutes as well.
“When the home crowd is getting a bit of momentum, you’ve got to be good at recognising it early enough and just nip it in the bud.”
What on earth is all that about? His idea of motivation seems to be focused on keeping the fans quiet! What about using it to get your players to step up a gear (make that 3 gears), pull their fingers out, and achieve something? Whilst he’s about, perhaps he should pull his own finger out - deliver or ship out - pronto!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 6, 2018 9:16:52 GMT
This is what is needed before every game but doubt it happens......
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Post by chumley on Jan 6, 2018 9:25:44 GMT
To be fair, the likes of Bojan and Imbula seem to be failing everywhere, theyve hardly set the world alight at their current clubs. Its down to our transfer Policy again ie picking up sick and lame players and trying to make them world beaters, keep saying it, we need to buy players who are fit and raring to go.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 6, 2018 9:33:37 GMT
Hughes’ comments in Sentinel re today: ““We keep talking about momentum. Momentum changes outside the game and outside the club, but it changes within the 90 minutes as well. “When the home crowd is getting a bit of momentum, you’ve got to be good at recognising it early enough and just nip it in the bud.” What on earth is all that about? His idea of motivation seems to be focused on keeping the fans quiet! What about using it to get your players to step up a gear (make that 3 gears), pull their fingers out, and achieve something? Whilst he’s about, perhaps he should pull his own finger out - deliver or ship out - pronto! Clearly momentum is the problem, good group best man to get a tune out of them blah blah blah boring Welsh twat. |
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Post by slicko on Jan 6, 2018 9:46:25 GMT
This is what is needed before every game but doubt it happens...... Yes, that’s the one!! But will Big Pete allow Sparky to buy the background music from I-tunes or will he buy the one that came 5th in the Eurovision Song Contest? |
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 6, 2018 9:49:43 GMT
He bought the player. He didn’t develop him. He trained, he’s been in contact for months, he scored and put Liverpool through to the next round. You don’t think Klopp motivated or guided him? He scored a game winning goal last night but it remains to be seen if Klopp gets the best out of him defensively. After just one game it's impossible to know but he's there to do a defensive job and scoring important goals will no doubt just be a bonus. Kind of like the great Robert Huth who was sold by Hughes, but who knows why? Klopp is, none the less, a great attacking coach but his defences have proven to be somewhat leaky!  |
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