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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2018 1:56:37 GMT
You can stream all EFL games abroad these days mate you’ll be fine. No you cant, meet me at the pub Saturday and show me what channel. And why all the silly supporters of clubs like little Leeds and little Villa have to assemble at a pub if sky put it on. Check your facts, or a TV guide, or ask someone who lives overseas the reality Try this Dunc, new deal announced. www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4792695/championship-live-stream-watch-efl-ifollow/
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 1:58:24 GMT
Why would I need to meet you at the pub to show you what channel, I don’t carry a flat screen tv around with me? You are making assanine assumptions about football on telly in North America you have no clue about. Stop assuming shit. What the fuck are you banging on about, seriously?
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 3, 2018 2:01:31 GMT
You are making assanine assumptions about football on telly in North America you have no clue about. Stop assuming shit. What the fuck are you banging on about, seriously? Our Survival and what it means to people outside ST4
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jan 3, 2018 2:04:35 GMT
I have to admit I researched for streaming games next season should Stoke go down. iFollow it is then, if needed.
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Post by NassauDave on Jan 3, 2018 3:36:06 GMT
No. Is there fuck.
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Jan 3, 2018 3:37:20 GMT
Because others amongst us who were there too actually remember how fucking dogshit that division is. Soulless. Small time. Half empty stadia. Wanky no mark teams. Shit football. Music after goals. No name players. Fuck all coverage. Completely out of the global consciousness. Obscurity. And above all, so fucking insanely difficult to get out of that it could be easily at least another 23 years, if not more, before we see the light of day again. I completely agree with your withering assessment of life in the lower leagues and our prospects of escaping from them should we end up there. My fear is if we go this season we may well be gone for ever. We really, really, really don't want to go there. You don't exist outside of the Prem, we mustn't go there! At my age, I am petrified that if we go down, I'll never see us go back up. Therefore I, for one, DO NOT want relegation
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Jan 3, 2018 3:42:37 GMT
Why does everyone get so angry when there’s a difference of opinion?? I for one won’t lose any sleep if we get relegated, pissed off? Yes, big time but some (most ) of the best memories of away days were pre premiership, will they be the same again in the championship, doubt it very much but what can I do about it? Fuck all that’s what. On the flip side, when we got promoted I said to pulis, “thanks not only for what you have done for us stoke fans, but for what it means for the city, the pubs, the coach companies etc” ....if we get relegated it’ll hurt them more than it’ll hurt me, that’s the bigger picture, just what the city doesn’t need. So, when Ive got the benefit of being able to park up easier and closer, wander in at 2.55, get a drink and virtually sit where I want and sing to the away fans ‘come in a taxi’ there’s going to be a big fuck off flip side for others and I don’t just mean fans........if that makes sense.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 3, 2018 3:45:14 GMT
I completely agree with your withering assessment of life in the lower leagues and our prospects of escaping from them should we end up there. My fear is if we go this season we may well be gone for ever. We really, really, really don't want to go there. You don't exist outside of the Prem, we mustn't go there! At my age, I am petrified that if we go down, I'll never see us go back up. Therefore I, for one, DO NOT want relegation I am reasonably confident that I will see them go down and come back again because I am only 62 and I take after my mum who passed away a year ago at the ripe old age of 91. She had all her marbles right up to the end, completed fiendish sudoku and beat me at scrabble every time.
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Post by pottarius on Jan 3, 2018 3:55:47 GMT
Why does everyone get so angry when there’s a difference of opinion?? I for one won’t lose any sleep if we get relegated, pissed off? Yes, big time but some (most ) of the best memories of away days were pre premiership, will they be the same again in the championship, doubt it very much but what can I do about it? Fuck all that’s what. On the flip side, when we got promoted I said to pulis, “thanks not only for what you have done for us stoke fans, but for what it means for the city, the pubs, the coach companies etc” ....it’ll hurt them more than it’ll hurt me, that’s the bigger picture, just what the city doesn’t need. So, when I can wander in at 2.55, get a drink and virtually sit where I want and sing to the away fans ‘come in a taxi’ there’s going to be a flip side........if that makes sense. Its the way of the world nowadays - I wouldn't lose sleep over it, especially at the moment where everyones emotions are running high I've got to admit the vast majority my experience of watching Stoke is outside the top-flight (I moved to Asia 16yrs ago so aside from Xmas games when I've been back I've watched only 10-12games in the PL). I loved the Macari years especially - thunderous football and thunderous crowds, scrapes with the old bill, sneaking in pubs next to away grounds to natter with the opposition (or be ejected rather violently!) But I do fear if we go down that we could be down for long time again as for sure we're going to go down with a whole ship of debt that needs to be shifted (I've mentioned before but I really doubt we have all the big hitters have relegation clauses in their contracts - the board could not see the issue with LMH for 2years, so expecting them to have contigency plans for the worst case scenario of playing in the Champo next year is very optimistic indeed) All in all I'd prefer us to stay up, not a slight on the lower league scene but more a fear that we are totally unprepared for the eventuality and will "deal" with it only when it's a foregone conclusion (at which time the board will come out with "who saw that coming?" line I'm sure)
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Post by marrer on Jan 3, 2018 3:58:54 GMT
I completely agree with your withering assessment of life in the lower leagues and our prospects of escaping from them should we end up there. My fear is if we go this season we may well be gone for ever. We really, really, really don't want to go there. You don't exist outside of the Prem, we mustn't go there! At my age, I am petrified that if we go down, I'll never see us go back up. Therefore I, for one, DO NOT want relegation Hey up mate. Just on the way back groom Jindabyne. 50 50 at the moment I reckon regarding your worst fears happening. I think it's nailed on if Hughes remains. It's likely a new manager will bring a lift in players attitudes and ultimately performances especially if hee can weigh up individual strengths quite quickly and habe a game plan to play to peoples strengths. Add to that some defence strategy and fingers crossed. I do wonder what the owners and CEO have been doing for the last 6 months though and I would be happy to see Scholes fall on his sword also.
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Jan 3, 2018 4:35:37 GMT
At my age, I am petrified that if we go down, I'll never see us go back up. Therefore I, for one, DO NOT want relegation Hey up mate. Just on the way back groom Jindabyne. 50 50 at the moment I reckon regarding your worst fears happening. I think it's nailed on if Hughes remains. It's likely a new manager will bring a lift in players attitudes and ultimately performances especially if hee can weigh up individual strengths quite quickly and habe a game plan to play to peoples strengths. Add to that some defence strategy and fingers crossed. I do wonder what the owners and CEO have been doing for the last 6 months though and I would be happy to see Scholes fall on his sword also. Hey up, old son - Happy New Year to you At 69 in February, my hopes aren't great that I'll see 'em back up if they're relegated; however, my Mum had her 94th birthday just before Xmas, so who knows? I'd rather we stayed up, though
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 4:45:35 GMT
Good question raised by Joe as always, and if I remember right it sort of came up last season when with 2 or 3 games to go we were well and truly on the beach, and even at the stadium the atmosphere had gone a tad flat, and one or two said that with summat to play for, albeit survival, it does make the last few games more exciting, especially when we are winning 6 pointers, " WE are staying up, say we are staying up" It's great for the atmosphere, but not so great for the nerves.
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Post by hanibal7 on Jan 3, 2018 5:58:29 GMT
It may bring some sort of atmosphere back to the stadium. The true fan will be the 12th man.
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Post by starkiller on Jan 3, 2018 6:48:31 GMT
It's shite. Especially when it seems so unavoidable. It's no more unavoidable for us than any other team in it.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 3, 2018 6:59:48 GMT
This is one of the recognisable ‘stages’ of relegation isn’t it? The ‘I don’t care because it means we might win a few games and I enjoy being out on the piss with the lads away at Barnsley!’. Personally I think it’s utter misty eyed nonsense - but I think we will get more and more of it as the weeks roll by.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 7:24:00 GMT
A relegation dogfight can be turned around especially if it goes hand in hand with a decent cup run. I think this might be preying on the mind of the board that if we win vs Coventry, especially if we win handsomely, this will go some way towards creating a better atmosphere inside the club and more confidence within the team. Then if the draw for the 4th is good, players have this to look forward to, and they can nurture more of that good spell even if we have the odd bad result in the league. Then when we're in the 6th round players can start smelling Wembley, and for our players most will only have gone there to get soundly beaten by Spurs, so that's a golden opportunity to turn that experience around and to win the cup itself.
But just as often you have seen good cup runs become a major distraction. Players consciously (Shaqiri) or unconsciously fear injury as they smell cup success and so they pull out of tackles and go in half-heartedly which then causes injury. Once players see one or two team mates lose out on the cup run their fear of missing out multiply.
Then of course there's also the danger of a good cup run ending prematurely, perhaps under controversy, or due to a late goal or a penalty shootout. There is a school of thought that our current rot started the night we lost in the LC semi vs Liverpool, after which some of our players never really recovered.
So if you're planning on a cup run to inspire us be careful for what you're wishing for.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2018 7:45:04 GMT
I’m 100% with Prestwich on this.
Football is football and you’ll have ups and downs whatever division you’re in, but the match day experience remains and there’s as much chance you’ll have a good time in the Championship or even League One as anywhere else.
Would people take the last two Hughes or Pulis seasons over the Macari years? Or last season’s dull security over our Prem promotion season?
Nobody wants to be relegated but life doesn’t begin and end with the Premier League and some of our best times have come outside of it.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 3, 2018 7:59:08 GMT
But saturday 3 o'clock kick offs won't be streamed?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 3, 2018 8:14:00 GMT
If you are a newcastle or a west ham a relegation fight is ok. You know if those clubs go down, because of socio economic characteristics of the area, they have a support that will keep going.
Stoke is a deprived area as it is. A lot of supporters already don't go for financial reasons. Our attendances will go straight down to the 20k mark.
The board, it now clearly seems, are completely incompetent at what they do. So you wouldn't think we will bounce back immediately.
Living away as I do, for me personally it wil be very difficult to watch any of the games. It would affect me but maybe its time I bumped stoke out of my life and concentrated on my family instead of letting stoke ruin my weekends
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Post by mrred on Jan 3, 2018 8:18:45 GMT
Not when you know the team haven't got a single pair of bollocks between them and a manager that couldn't motivate a raver on Ecstacy.
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Post by stokienorthants on Jan 3, 2018 8:20:22 GMT
After we are relegated Berahino might actually score a fucking goal.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 3, 2018 8:23:46 GMT
They are exiting,so long as you ain't involved in them.
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Post by adamsson on Jan 3, 2018 8:24:43 GMT
Not when you know the team haven't got a single pair of bollocks between them and a manager that couldn't motivate a raver on Ecstacy. Yep that's about it. This won't be a relegation battle it will be a surrender without any fight. The trick will be not to copy Sunderland and do the double.
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Post by NassauDave on Jan 3, 2018 8:27:47 GMT
It’s only more interesting if it’s not your club in the shitter.
Our manager and board are killing us and we are now very, very unattractive as a destination for top players, and players who have the balls for a fight.
At the moment we are well and truly fucked.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 3, 2018 8:32:07 GMT
It may bring some sort of atmosphere back to the stadium. The true fan will be the 12th man. Both of these statements are misty eyed nonesense. Even in our promotion season there was no 12th man until near the end of the season. You could tip up just before kick off and pretty much sit where you wanted to. Yes there were a lot of die hardship but 12th man?? The impact it will have on job losses, half empty stadium and just the general mood are the key issues Not much of a legacy after all Mr Coates, just some great memories now tainted by your whole boards ineptitude which you have allowed
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Post by salopstick on Jan 3, 2018 8:45:22 GMT
Why does someone saying they wouldn’t mind being in the Championship make them a knob head? A lot of fans were around before the Premier League and will be around a lot longer afterwards as well. 3 teams have to go down, shit happens...... Because others amongst us who were there too actually remember how fucking dogshit that division is. Soulless. Small time. Half empty stadia. Wanky no mark teams. Shit football. Music after goals. No name players. Fuck all coverage. Completely out of the global consciousness. Obscurity. And above all, so fucking insanely difficult to get out of that it could be easily at least another 23 years, if not more, before we see the light of day again. and the most ridiculous looking shirt numbers
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Post by staffsvilla on Jan 3, 2018 8:46:29 GMT
But saturday 3 o'clock kick offs won't be streamed? They will for anyone outside the UK (or appearing to be outside the UK ) UTV
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Post by generationex on Jan 3, 2018 9:04:29 GMT
If you are a newcastle or a west ham a relegation fight is ok. You know if those clubs go down, because of socio economic characteristics of the area, they have a support that will keep going. Stoke is a deprived area as it is. A lot of supporters already don't go for financial reasons. Our attendances will go straight down to the 20k mark. The board, it now clearly seems, are completely incompetent at what they do. So you wouldn't think we will bounce back immediately. Living away as I do, for me personally it wil be very difficult to watch any of the games. It would affect me but maybe its time I bumped stoke out of my life and concentrated on my family instead of letting stoke ruin my weekends Not being in the worlds premium football league is an inconvenience to cities like Leeds or Bristol, and a serious disadvantage to Sheffield or Nottingham. But they are functioning, progressive cities that do not depend upon the premier league to raise civic pride or their profile globally. It’s different for Stoke. Or Burnley. Or Hull. People that quite like ‘a bit of the ol’ third division football’ are essentially selfish. For the people that continue to live in Stoke the football club is a big part of trying to make the place a better place for our children. Of course we could all just move out and bollocks to it. I’ve heard the suburbs of Manchester are good and I can get the kids to support a local and successful team at the same time. You’re right boys - fuck stoke.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2018 9:44:21 GMT
If you are a newcastle or a west ham a relegation fight is ok. You know if those clubs go down, because of socio economic characteristics of the area, they have a support that will keep going. Stoke is a deprived area as it is. A lot of supporters already don't go for financial reasons. Our attendances will go straight down to the 20k mark. The board, it now clearly seems, are completely incompetent at what they do. So you wouldn't think we will bounce back immediately. Living away as I do, for me personally it wil be very difficult to watch any of the games. It would affect me but maybe its time I bumped stoke out of my life and concentrated on my family instead of letting stoke ruin my weekends Not being in the worlds premium football league is an inconvenience to cities like Leeds or Bristol, and a serious disadvantage to Sheffield or Nottingham. But they are functioning, progressive cities that do not depend upon the premier league to raise civic pride or their profile globally. It’s different for Stoke. Or Burnley. Or Hull. People that quite like ‘a bit of the ol’ third division football’ are essentially selfish. For the people that continue to live in Stoke the football club is a big part of trying to make the place a better place for our children. Of course we could all just move out and bollocks to it. I’ve heard the suburbs of Manchester are good and I can get the kids to support a local and successful team at the same time. You’re right boys - fuck stoke. Nobody wants us to get relegated, so that’s a load of old cock.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 9:56:35 GMT
The issue is, as it stands we'll be playing like this next season but in a lower division in front of lower attendances.
People don't want relegation. They just want Stoke to win a few and play some actual football every now and then.
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