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Post by sportsman on Jan 2, 2018 18:49:43 GMT
We should pay big money to poach Dyche. We’re a bigger club than Burnley, better ground and training ground and arguably a better squad. If we pay him to come, and pay Burnley to let him go, and then back him in the window - then I think our fortunes will change. I've just posted on another thread that i'd laughed off earlier suggestions of a big Hughes pay off, until i've just had a call off my dad on about something else and he said he was talking to a stoke physio last night in a local club. He said Hughes won't resign as the pay off is worth £5m. So that's £5m pay off, however much to try poach a Dyche say, plus everything else like transfers etc. Expensive decision. Ever likely they're taking their time over it, though there should still be only one outcome now.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 2, 2018 19:02:19 GMT
We should pay big money to poach Dyche. We’re a bigger club than Burnley, better ground and training ground and arguably a better squad. If we pay him to come, and pay Burnley to let him go, and then back him in the window - then I think our fortunes will change. We won't pay the money.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jan 2, 2018 19:03:25 GMT
They have to be British/Irish so we are told. They have to have premier experience. And they have to be cheap.
Not much to choose from.
Pearson - my choice. Redknapp McLaren O'Neil Strachan Mcleish Megson Keane Giggs.
Can't think of many more. Very small time of the board to only consider British options. I think there gonna stick with Hughes big question is what cash is available, if they do stick I would tell him get rid of Bowen and Eddie and get some coaches who can get this lot fit,organised, and motivated.
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Post by bhp on Jan 2, 2018 19:06:47 GMT
We should pay big money to poach Dyche. We’re a bigger club than Burnley, better ground and training ground and arguably a better squad. If we pay him to come, and pay Burnley to let him go, and then back him in the window - then I think our fortunes will change. Why. The. Fuck. Would. He. Leave?? The link with him and Everton was very strong when they were after a gaffer and he stayed put so why on earth would he leave Burnley now to join US!! Laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 19:07:10 GMT
They have to be British/Irish so we are told. They have to have premier experience. And they have to be cheap. Not much to choose from. Pearson - my choice. Redknapp McLaren O'Neil Strachan Mcleish Megson Keane Giggs. Can't think of many more. Very small time of the board to only consider British options. I think there gonna stick with Hughes big question is what cash is available, if they do stick I would tell him get rid of Bowen and Eddie and get some coaches who can get this lot fit,organised, and motivated. The Russian Minister of sport couldn't get this lot fit.
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Post by bhp on Jan 2, 2018 19:10:35 GMT
There's some decent managers in Spain potentially worth looking into who are easily attainable.
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 2, 2018 19:20:08 GMT
They have to be British/Irish so we are told. They have to have premier experience. And they have to be cheap. Not much to choose from. Pearson - my choice. Redknapp McLaren O'Neil Strachan Mcleish Megson Keane Giggs. Can't think of many more. Very small time of the board to only consider British options. I think there gonna stick with Hughes big question is what cash is available, if they do stick I would tell him get rid of Bowen and Eddie and get some coaches who can get this lot fit,organised, and motivated. I agree with you and have been advocating his engagement for some weeks now Pearson my preferred choice Martin O'Neil my second preference
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 19:24:42 GMT
Fed up of seeing Mancini mentioned on Twitter...Leicester went calling for him and he didn't even consider them, they are a much more attractive job than us...and they would of offered more money.
Amazed some think he's possible
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Post by andystokey on Jan 2, 2018 19:35:32 GMT
Louis van Gaal
There I've said it!! he would cost less than a transfer window. Save the club £100m if he keeps us up. Give him £5m bonus to keep us up.
Changes our image for ever and his stats are stellar.
If Leicester can get Ranieri I don't see why not.
#ambition remember that Stoke?
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 2, 2018 19:38:07 GMT
They have to be British/Irish so we are told. They have to have premier experience. And they have to be cheap. Not much to choose from. Pearson - my choice. Redknapp McLaren O'Neil Strachan Mcleish Megson Keane Giggs. Can't think of many more. Very small time of the board to only consider British options. I think there gonna stick with Hughes big question is what cash is available, if they do stick I would tell him get rid of Bowen and Eddie and get some coaches who can get this lot fit,organised, and motivated. I agree with you and have been advocating his engagement for some weeks now Pearson my preferred choice Martin O'Neil my second preference Those two would be like employing Rolf Harris and Gary glitter to run a kids nursery for you
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jan 2, 2018 19:39:12 GMT
I agree with you and have been advocating his engagement for some weeks now Pearson my preferred choice Martin O'Neil my second preference Those two would be like employing Rolf Harris and Gary glitter to run a kids nursery for you Why?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 19:39:25 GMT
Louis van Gaal There I've said it!! he would cost less than a transfer window. Save the club £100m if he keeps us up. Give him £5m bonus to keep us up. Changes our image for ever and his stats are stellar. If Leicester can get Ranieri I don't see why not. #ambition remember that Stoke? More chance of Louis Walsh
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 2, 2018 19:39:58 GMT
I agree with you and have been advocating his engagement for some weeks now Pearson my preferred choice Martin O'Neil my second preference Those two would be like employing Rolf Harris and Gary glitter to run a kids nursery for you So who would you suggest ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 19:40:12 GMT
We should pay big money to poach Dyche. We’re a bigger club than Burnley, better ground and training ground and arguably a better squad. If we pay him to come, and pay Burnley to let him go, and then back him in the window - then I think our fortunes will change. Why. The. Fuck. Would. He. Leave?? The link with him and Everton was very strong when they were after a gaffer and he stayed put so why on earth would he leave Burnley now to join US!! Laughable. For money. Like I said.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 2, 2018 19:43:40 GMT
Those two would be like employing Rolf Harris and Gary glitter to run a kids nursery for you So who would you suggest ? Not those two idiots , look on the Sunderland message board about MON and also see what Leicester fans say about that tosspot Pearson , to employ any of those two would be like shagging in Ghana with out a condom you just wouldn’t do it
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Post by andystokey on Jan 2, 2018 19:50:19 GMT
Louis van Gaal There I've said it!! he would cost less than a transfer window. Save the club £100m if he keeps us up. Give him £5m bonus to keep us up. Changes our image for ever and his stats are stellar. If Leicester can get Ranieri I don't see why not. #ambition remember that Stoke? More chance of Louis Walsh And that's the problem with this football club and everyone associated in a nutshell #lackofambition
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Post by bhp on Jan 2, 2018 20:20:25 GMT
Daniel Ramos, CS Maritimo.
Took in charge when the club were second bottom, led them to 6th and Europa League qualification. Currently they're 5th. Conceded the 3rd least in the league last season and 5th least this season. Low goalscorers but very resolute, Portuguese Tony Pulis.
Just to put a name in the hat that no one else would have mentioned.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 2, 2018 20:24:15 GMT
Thomas Tuchel - young, forward thinking coach we should be moving heaven and earth to persuade to come. Oh yeah, this is Stoke, so Nigel Pearson it is then! #facepalm
Mirror Football quote: Like Klopp, he urges his side to be daring, committing bodies forward with high pressing and aggressive, dynamic football. However, has arguably shown greater tactical versatility to the now-Liverpool manager, alternating formations with increasing regularity and taking the side away from the 4-2-3-1 of his antecedent, increasingly utilising the 4-1-4-1 formation more familiar with Pep Guardiola.
*this is a local football club for local football people, we'll have no trouble here*
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Post by jamerg on Jan 2, 2018 20:27:46 GMT
I open a thread entitled “realistic alternatives” and everyone’s banging on about Ancelotti, Tuchel, Bielsa and Van Gaal! Dear me!
I doubt even Dyche or Wagner would come now.
I know this is probably crazy (tin hat on etc) but i’ve not seen Clement mentioned anywhere. It’s counter-intuitive to appoint someone from a club below us who has just been sacked, I know, but he did a pretty solid job keeping Swansea up last year, particularly in improving the defence, and was then royally shafted by the board in the summer transfer window.
Perhaps he’s a classic No 2 who will never be a top manager, but he’s worth considering I think. Also (unlike Pearson and a few others) seems like a decent bloke.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 2, 2018 20:29:46 GMT
We should pay big money to poach Dyche. We’re a bigger club than Burnley, better ground and training ground and arguably a better squad. If we pay him to come, and pay Burnley to let him go, and then back him in the window - then I think our fortunes will change. I've just posted on another thread that i'd laughed off earlier suggestions of a big Hughes pay off, until i've just had a call off my dad on about something else and he said he was talking to a stoke physio last night in a local club. He said Hughes won't resign as the pay off is worth £5m. So that's £5m pay off, however much to try poach a Dyche say, plus everything else like transfers etc. Expensive decision. Ever likely they're taking their time over it, though there should still be only one outcome now. Aren't our managers on a rolling 12 month contract so they have 12 months left every day they wake up? If so, it would cost less than 1m to terminate Hughes contract.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 2, 2018 20:35:58 GMT
I've just posted on another thread that i'd laughed off earlier suggestions of a big Hughes pay off, until i've just had a call off my dad on about something else and he said he was talking to a stoke physio last night in a local club. He said Hughes won't resign as the pay off is worth £5m. So that's £5m pay off, however much to try poach a Dyche say, plus everything else like transfers etc. Expensive decision. Ever likely they're taking their time over it, though there should still be only one outcome now. Aren't our managers on a rolling 12 month contract so they have 12 months left every day they wake up? If so, it would cost less than 1m to terminate Hughes contract. I reckon you are right, Dave. The only money they will be wary of is the money required by any new manager by way of a transfer kitty before he agrees to take on trying to turn around this shower and save us from the dreaded drop. Surely anyone will demand at least 50m or else they are on a hiding to nothing?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 2, 2018 20:37:02 GMT
Hughes signed a 3-yr deal, didn't he?
Think he had been on a roller - but he's contracted until 2019
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Post by sportsman on Jan 2, 2018 20:37:49 GMT
I've just posted on another thread that i'd laughed off earlier suggestions of a big Hughes pay off, until i've just had a call off my dad on about something else and he said he was talking to a stoke physio last night in a local club. He said Hughes won't resign as the pay off is worth £5m. So that's £5m pay off, however much to try poach a Dyche say, plus everything else like transfers etc. Expensive decision. Ever likely they're taking their time over it, though there should still be only one outcome now. Aren't our managers on a rolling 12 month contract so they have 12 months left every day they wake up? If so, it would cost less than 1m to terminate Hughes contract. Like I said mate, I laughed it off as well about Hughes big pay off, but apparently coming from a Stoke physio last night it would cost us 5m.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 2, 2018 20:38:47 GMT
I open a thread entitled “realistic alternatives” and everyone’s banging on about Ancelotti, Tuchel, Bielsa and Van Gaal! Dear me! I doubt even Dyche or I would come now. I know this is probably crazy (tin hat on etc) but i’ve not seen Clement mentioned anywhere. It’s counter-intuitive to appoint someone from a club below us who has just been sacked, I know, but he did a pretty solid job keeping Swansea up last year, particularly in improving the defence, and was then royally shafted by the board in the summer transfer window. Perhaps he’s a classic No 2 who will never be a top manager, but he’s worth considering I think. Also (unlike Pearson and a few others) seems like a decent bloke. I like Paul Clement . He did well when he had llorente and sigurdsson , but then struggled after they were sold and not replaced . That was always on the cards I think he's compedent and would tighten us up defensively
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Post by rambo61 on Jan 2, 2018 20:38:49 GMT
My choice would be Oneill. Mìnimum compo...bag of spuds should do it...prem experience knows how to set up a defence and a decent counter attack...oh and bring your bulldog with you...I bet Shakiri starts running then!!😂😂
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 2, 2018 20:39:52 GMT
Hughes signed a 3-yr deal, didn't he? Think he had been on a roller - but he's contracted until 2019 Is that true????? Another bollock dropped on the contract front then!
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Post by Linx on Jan 2, 2018 20:42:26 GMT
Gary Rowett would be a risk, since he hasn't managed at this level, plus why would he come since he might well be in the Prem with Derby next season?
Amongst the more available British managers, Gary Monk might be a decent shout, or even Nigel Pearson. Wasn't Pearson in our management team pre-Pulis?
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Post by Davef on Jan 2, 2018 20:46:34 GMT
Are we seriously meant to believe that if we sacked Hughes tomorrow, he'll be paid £5-6M for the remaining 18 months of his contract?
It wouldn't cost that to pay of Hughes, Bowen, Eddie and the rest of his backroom staff combined if they were sent packing.
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Post by Davef on Jan 2, 2018 20:50:20 GMT
Hughes signed a 3-yr deal, didn't he? Think he had been on a roller - but he's contracted until 2019 Is that true????? Another bollock dropped on the contract front then! He signed his contract extension in the spring of 2015, just before the heady days of Liverpool 6-1. It really wasn't a dropped bollock. Fans were happy with the news at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 20:55:08 GMT
When his name came up in connection with bigger clubs, Ancelotti has already stated that he wants a clean break after Munich and that he wants to start with a new club after July when he has time to prepare the team to his methods. The other four names mentioned at the start are also hugely unrealistic - both from the point of view of managers who would stand to gain nothing by going to a substandard club and the board whose chairman refuses to hire non-british.
I cant keep up with all the threads here but no one has to my knowledge suggested promote from within. With the entire managing and coaching structure going if Hughes goes, that may sound daft, but if there's a current footballer who'd qualify to be player manager it would be Crouch, possibly with Adam as assistant. But it's probably just as unrealistic, especially since Crouch has no coaching badges.
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