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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 23, 2017 17:45:07 GMT
WTF was up with him today, massive game and he just didn't turn up . Very disappointing. Has he been tapped up for a move?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 17:47:02 GMT
Shut yer trap, he can’t be MOTM every game!
Enjoy the win for once instead of moaning all the time, it’s Christmas afterall
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 17:47:57 GMT
He's carried us game after game this season. with no creativity around him today I'm not surprised he struggled. Both he and Arnie struggled last season with Allen as a number 10. I don't think one performance slightly below his fantastic levels means he's been tapped up.
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Dec 23, 2017 17:50:55 GMT
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Post by clivey05 on Dec 23, 2017 17:50:55 GMT
He is far less affective on the wing, game seems to pass him by and he gives no support for whoever is at full back. He’s much better in the number 10 role where he can get in the pockets of space and he doesn’t really have any defensive duties.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 23, 2017 17:53:09 GMT
We need Shaq #10 with Allen in alongside Cameron in the midfield imo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 17:53:51 GMT
Player gets moved from his best position and doesn’t play as well, it’s a mystery.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 18:01:32 GMT
His abandonment of his defensive duties to leave an 18 year old with two men was nothing short of a disgrace.
...and yes, I'm enjoying the win.
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Dec 23, 2017 18:06:58 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 23, 2017 18:06:58 GMT
He was poor however that is his first of the season. He will see more of the ball at Huddersfield
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Dec 23, 2017 18:07:04 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 23, 2017 18:07:04 GMT
The sheer lack of work rate is simply not good enough. I just wouldn't play him again now, and sell him to any foreign club that'll take him in January. I'd certainly have him spending a few weeks in the reserves while Sobhi gets a run of games.
The fact that we've been reliant on him this season says nothing about his abilities, and everything about how poor we've been. He'll score a few screamers in a season, but he's just not good enough week in, week out.
He's the only thing that has really irritated me today, in a win that has otherwise been manna from heaven.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 23, 2017 18:08:13 GMT
The sheer lack of work rate is simply not good enough. I just wouldn't play him again now, and sell him to any foreign club that'll take him in January. I'd certainly have him spending a few weeks in the reserves while Sobhi gets a run of games. The fact that we've been reliant on him this season says nothing about his abilities, and everything about how poor we've been. He'll score a few screamers in a season, but he's just not good enough week in, week out. He's the only thing that has really irritated me today, in a win that has otherwise been manna from heaven. Jaw dropping. Genuinely.
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Post by redwhite on Dec 23, 2017 18:09:18 GMT
The sheer lack of work rate is simply not good enough. I just wouldn't play him again now, and sell him to any foreign club that'll take him in January. I'd certainly have him spending a few weeks in the reserves while Sobhi gets a run of games. The fact that we've been reliant on him this season says nothing about his abilities, and everything about how poor we've been. He'll score a few screamers in a season, but he's just not good enough week in, week out. He's the only thing that has really irritated me today, in a win that has otherwise been manna from heaven. Jesus Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 18:11:44 GMT
The sheer lack of work rate is simply not good enough. I just wouldn't play him again now, and sell him to any foreign club that'll take him in January. I'd certainly have him spending a few weeks in the reserves while Sobhi gets a run of games. The fact that we've been reliant on him this season says nothing about his abilities, and everything about how poor we've been. He'll score a few screamers in a season, but he's just not good enough week in, week out. He's the only thing that has really irritated me today, in a win that has otherwise been manna from heaven. It would be very interesting to see what this team would look like with a fast, aggressive outside right that was prepared to graft up and down (with quality) rather than giving the opposite left back a free run up the touchline for 90 minutes. You'll get stick for that post I'm sure, but I can 100% see where you are coming from.
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Dec 23, 2017 18:13:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 18:13:03 GMT
The sheer lack of work rate is simply not good enough. I just wouldn't play him again now, and sell him to any foreign club that'll take him in January. I'd certainly have him spending a few weeks in the reserves while Sobhi gets a run of games. The fact that we've been reliant on him this season says nothing about his abilities, and everything about how poor we've been. He'll score a few screamers in a season, but he's just not good enough week in, week out. He's the only thing that has really irritated me today, in a win that has otherwise been manna from heaven. Pathetic
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Dec 23, 2017 18:13:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 18:13:12 GMT
We need Shaq #10 with Allen in alongside Cameron in the midfield imo. +1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 18:13:35 GMT
He had an off day today but he’s wasn’t that one, the lad has been superb all season
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Dec 23, 2017 18:16:08 GMT
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Post by femark1 on Dec 23, 2017 18:16:08 GMT
Piss poor today. We carry him defensively and cant afford to. Would be world class if he gave a fcuk
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 23, 2017 18:21:17 GMT
We need Shaq #10 with Allen in alongside Cameron in the midfield imo. To be honest Id be tempted to go as per the first half 4-2-3-1 I think it was but put Allen instead of Fletcher and move Shaq inside behind the striker with Ramadan on the right.
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Dec 23, 2017 18:25:52 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 23, 2017 18:25:52 GMT
The sheer lack of work rate is simply not good enough. I just wouldn't play him again now, and sell him to any foreign club that'll take him in January. I'd certainly have him spending a few weeks in the reserves while Sobhi gets a run of games. The fact that we've been reliant on him this season says nothing about his abilities, and everything about how poor we've been. He'll score a few screamers in a season, but he's just not good enough week in, week out. He's the only thing that has really irritated me today, in a win that has otherwise been manna from heaven. It would be very interesting to see what this team would look like with a fast, aggressive outside right that was prepared to graft up and down (with quality) rather than giving the opposite left back a free run up the touchline for 90 minutes. You'll get stick for that post I'm sure, but I can 100% see where you are coming from. It's already started I just don't see it with him. He's obviously a skilful player, but he lacks the physical attributes to make any kind of an impact on the right wing. I've watched him for three years now, when he hasn't been injured, and I don't think he should even be in contention for a starting spot in a wide position. We badly need a pacey winger out there who will stretch the opposition and put in the hard miles to help his full back. He lacks the lace, but I feel that Sobhi is a far better option there. He's supposedly been a revelation playing in the centre, and I agree that he's had some good individual games playing there this season, but that's also coincided with utterly atrocious team performances that have seen us mired in a relegation battle. If the only system that he can play well in is a 3-5-2, and he can only play on the right in the system that actually wins games like today, where does that leave him?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 23, 2017 18:26:09 GMT
We need Shaq #10 with Allen in alongside Cameron in the midfield imo. To be honest Id be tempted to go as per the first half 4-2-3-1 I think it was but put Allen instead of Fletcher and move Shaq inside behind the striker with Ramadan on the right. Yep that's what I'm suggesting.
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Dec 23, 2017 18:27:23 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 23, 2017 18:27:23 GMT
It would be very interesting to see what this team would look like with a fast, aggressive outside right that was prepared to graft up and down (with quality) rather than giving the opposite left back a free run up the touchline for 90 minutes. You'll get stick for that post I'm sure, but I can 100% see where you are coming from. It's already started I just don't see it with him. He's obviously a skilful player, but he lacks the physical attributes to make any kind of an impact on the right wing. I've watched him for three years now, when he hasn't been injured, and I don't think he should even be in contention for a starting spot in a wide position. We badly need a pacey winger out there who will stretch the opposition and put in the hard miles to help his full back. He lacks the lace, but I feel that Sobhi is a far better option there. He's supposedly been a revelation playing in the centre, and I agree that he's had some good individual games playing there this season, but that's also coincided with utterly atrocious team performances that have seen us mired in a relegation battle. If the only system that he can play well in is a 3-5-2, and he can only play on the right in the system that actually wins games like today, where does that leave him? So you've figured out he's played well in a central position and not so well on the wing but you still don't want him in the team?.. yeah, makes total sense.
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Post by bobk on Dec 23, 2017 18:31:36 GMT
We need Shaq #10 with Allen in alongside Cameron in the midfield imo. Really..... who scored the first and made the second .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 18:32:09 GMT
The sheer lack of work rate is simply not good enough. I just wouldn't play him again now, and sell him to any foreign club that'll take him in January. I'd certainly have him spending a few weeks in the reserves while Sobhi gets a run of games. The fact that we've been reliant on him this season says nothing about his abilities, and everything about how poor we've been. He'll score a few screamers in a season, but he's just not good enough week in, week out. He's the only thing that has really irritated me today, in a win that has otherwise been manna from heaven. It would be very interesting to see what this team would look like with a fast, aggressive outside right that was prepared to graft up and down (with quality) rather than giving the opposite left back a free run up the touchline for 90 minutes. You'll get stick for that post I'm sure, but I can 100% see where you are coming from. I'd kinda back you both up to be honest, although not as gung ho in losing Shaq. This looked like our best shape today but negated our best player, whilst our best player shines in our worst shape. Were we to replace him with a pacey forward who fit a system that benefited the entire side, or even just move him centrally and get a new wide man, then I think we could be better for it.
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Post by redrob on Dec 23, 2017 18:34:57 GMT
He was poor today but if anyone deserves a pass its him he has been our best and most times only creative outlet this season
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Dec 23, 2017 18:36:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 18:36:12 GMT
Would you rest him for the next one to manage him over the festive fixture pile up?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 23, 2017 19:03:07 GMT
Xherdan "heart of a lion" Shaqiri
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Dec 23, 2017 19:09:48 GMT
Post by wuzza on Dec 23, 2017 19:09:48 GMT
It’s fair to say he was a liability today. Nature of the beast I suppose but on his good days he’s great on the bad ones he causes us a lot of problems.
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Dec 23, 2017 20:20:51 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 23, 2017 20:20:51 GMT
I don't always expect him to play well and yes he has been our most effective player in a lot of games but he just didn't look as though he was bothered today and that's not acceptable in any game never mind one as important as this one.
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Dec 23, 2017 20:23:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 20:23:15 GMT
Game didn’t suit him.... it happens
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Dec 23, 2017 20:27:33 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 23, 2017 20:27:33 GMT
He was poor today but he’s had a good season overall,what winds me up though is the amount of times he bottles 50/50 challenges or even 70/30 challenges.
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Dec 23, 2017 21:36:38 GMT
Post by armitagestokie on Dec 23, 2017 21:36:38 GMT
If we buy a pacey striker in Jan, perhaps Shaq could become our game changer as he fades in most second halves. Hudders & Newcastle games IMHO will decide Sparky's fate.
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