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Post by WhyDelilah on Dec 23, 2017 17:07:26 GMT
First and foremost, we got the result we absolutely needed. That's the most important thing today.
Having said that, second half we were absolutely fucking atrocious. I'd say that's as bad as I've ever seen, including the shit under the Pulis era, and also including anything we produced in the championship and league one.
That was 45 minutes of "rabbit in headlights". The whole side just froze. There was zero positive of note. We just let a really poor side put us under the cosh for prolonged periods of time. We should have been in the ascendancy but just appeared to try our best to throw it all away.
Let's enjoy the 3 points, let's enjoy Christmas, and let's enjoy Match of the day, which very rarely happens.
But hopefully Coates and Co. don't lose sight of the fact the man in charge has no long term future at the club.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 23, 2017 17:09:02 GMT
Totally agree.
Atrocious second half performance but we ground it out.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 23, 2017 17:10:38 GMT
Passing accuracy: Stoke 72% West brom 76%. Scandalous from both!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 17:11:25 GMT
Couldn't argue if both sides went down to be fair based on that performance.
Huge win for us though.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 23, 2017 17:16:36 GMT
Couldn't argue if both sides went down to be fair based on that performance. Huge win for us though. Hopefully that is not going to paper over the crevices Hughes has created, he has to go despite winning today the second half sounded shocking. Hughes out now. |
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Post by baystokie on Dec 23, 2017 17:18:44 GMT
Passing accuracy: Stoke 72% West brom 76%. Scandalous from both! I'm surprised that the pass rates were that high. Both sides will have been full of nerves and with every player desperately wanting NOT to be the one to make the first mistake. The ball will have been like a hot potato or the parcel in 'pass the parcel'. I'm sure all sides have these sort of games, it's just that we see only those involving Stoke, making our fans think that only ourselves have problems with so-called 'shit sides. |
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 23, 2017 17:19:42 GMT
We couldnt string 3 passes together, so what does he do??? brings on the 2 players players who in the squad (Diouf and Ramadan) who are the least able to keep possession!!!!!!  Hughes talks about luck Well, we were very lucky to get 3 points out of that game today |
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Post by chad on Dec 23, 2017 17:20:03 GMT
Agreed. Great great three points but we tried our best to throw it away. Still not convinced we can stay up but there’s supporters of at least ten other clubs probably thinking the same
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 23, 2017 17:22:00 GMT
We've been worse than that second half before, but we were poor for most of it. It was possibly down to nerves (Choupo-Moting definitely excluded from that). As for the 90 minutes as a whole, we've played better and not won this season.
We finally got some luck though, so hopefully that'll give us the confidence to play better over the next few games. It's nice to see us scoring a couple of late goals for a change.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 23, 2017 17:22:20 GMT
Huge relief.
In January we have to sort out midfield and get a striker.
It still looked shambolic at times with no pressure on the ball
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 23, 2017 17:25:17 GMT
Huge relief. In January we have to sort out midfield and get a striker. It still looked shambolic at times with no pressure on the ball We need a striker, a pacy wide player and a midfield colossus. At the very minimum. |
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Post by trincostokie on Dec 23, 2017 17:26:49 GMT
43% possession against the side with the worst possession stats in the league, 9 shots to their 17, 1 corner to their 11.
OK, the only stat that really counts is the goals scored and points won, but by fuck that was utter, utter dross second half. Our confidence is just so fucking brittle.
Whoever we do end up signing in January, I hope he comes with big bollocks and can remind the rest of the team what a bit of sustained intensity can do to the opposition, any opposition, for that matter...at the moment we look exactly what we are, fragile, leaky, disjointed and almost bereft of confidence once the other team scores...the manager has to be held responsible for that
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Post by Roger Everyone on Dec 23, 2017 17:26:56 GMT
Big 3 points, yes we looked bad second half. Hopefully will build some confidence among the team. At least we have a win for Christmas. Happy Christmas all
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Post by salopstick on Dec 23, 2017 17:28:16 GMT
In the grand scheme of things results over performances
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Dec 23, 2017 17:30:44 GMT
I'm not disagreeing but when you've been conceding so many goals in recent games, you're bound to looks shakey after conceding so early in the half. The difference is we managed to cut out the mistakes and hold on. The big thing for me was the amount of effort the players put in on and off the ball. They showed the fight we've needed them to show apart from one of the players but there's no point picking out individuals as I'd prefer to just enjoy the win. It was good to see Cameron back at CM which helped two fold as it pushed Allen further up to put more pressure on.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 23, 2017 17:33:28 GMT
The defending was once again awful, we scored our goals at just the right time. Was their goal offside? Seemed like it, but the marking in the box is a joke.
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Post by ursemboys on Dec 23, 2017 17:35:47 GMT
thought Shaqiri was quite second half , the game seemed to pass him by , also I would have bought Saido on instead of Diouf but a wins a win lets just enjoy it while we can
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 23, 2017 17:39:27 GMT
Sitting back and defending for prolonged periods at the end of games is a dangerous strategy and Hughes appears as culpable for this as the players. We have to get more effective on the break if we're going to continue playing like this. The 3rd goal was a fine example, but wow we nearly fucked it up again!! A change in tactical thinking is clearly required......along with calm headedness and grit. Big win though....no doubt about that!!  |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 23, 2017 17:40:05 GMT
In the grand scheme of things results over performances This. Survive, get to summer and regroup |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 17:41:18 GMT
Having said that, second half we were absolutely fucking atrocious. I'd say that's as bad as I've ever seen, including the shit under the Pulis era, and also including anything we produced in the championship and league one. That was 45 minutes of "rabbit in headlights". The whole side just froze. There was zero positive of note. We just let a really poor side put us under the cosh for prolonged periods of time. We should have been in the ascendancy but just appeared to try our best to throw it all away. Let's enjoy the 3 points, let's enjoy Christmas, and let's enjoy Match of the day, which very rarely happens. But hopefully Coates and Co. don't lose sight of the fact the man in charge has no long term future at the club. You probably don't know the first thing about survival at the lowest ebb. You probably think Stoke is a top 8 side and should be playing as such. You had already forgotten we had only one win in the last seven and only four overall. You once experienced worse but have forgotten completely. Today you found out what football is like at the bottom end. The last 45 minutes our job was not to play the beautiful game. Our only purpose was to survive and walk away with three points. You say that "There was zero positive of note". I can only assume that you walked off before the game was over and missed out on our third goal. Moreover it was our young winger's first important goal and that has monumental importance. |
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Post by liamo on Dec 23, 2017 17:41:59 GMT
Rather have a shit half and win than have a shit half and lose Merry christmas |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 17:42:01 GMT
Our ball retention is fucking abysmal. It's the root cause of a lot of our problems.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 23, 2017 17:42:03 GMT
The lack of energy and nouse at times was worrying . Let's not kid ourselves a lot of teams would have taken advantage, thankfully not Albion . Massive win but more questions than answers .
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Dec 23, 2017 17:42:21 GMT
thought Shaqiri was quite second half , the game seemed to pass him by , also I would have bought Saido on instead of Diouf but a wins a win lets just enjoy it while we can It would appear Saido is at the back of line when it comes to striking options. Crouch, Diouf, Eric, Shaq, Sobhi Then Saido....12 million for a 6th choice forward ???? |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 23, 2017 17:46:46 GMT
First and foremost, we got the result we absolutely needed. That's the most important thing today. Having said that, second half we were absolutely fucking atrocious. I'd say that's as bad as I've ever seen, including the shit under the Pulis era, and also including anything we produced in the championship and league one. That was 45 minutes of "rabbit in headlights". The whole side just froze. There was zero positive of note. We just let a really poor side put us under the cosh for prolonged periods of time. We should have been in the ascendancy but just appeared to try our best to throw it all away. Let's enjoy the 3 points, let's enjoy Christmas, and let's enjoy Match of the day, which very rarely happens. But hopefully Coates and Co. don't lose sight of the fact the man in charge has no long term future at the club. Don't lose sight ...? We've just taken three points off a relegation rival (of which their are another ten) We have zoomed up the table and will consolidate another point on Boxing Day. The players and manager were anxious and desperate second half because of the vital importance. Peter will be quietly enjoying his gin and tonic thinking at least I've got some bollocks ...unlike most of the Oatcake. |
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Post by ruts66 on Dec 23, 2017 17:47:23 GMT
I'd say there was ONE positive of note in the second half - Choupo Moting.
Him aside that was a truly painful, fearful display by a side shot to shit under Hughes.
Thank fuck WBA are woeful...
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Post by Glory Hunter on Dec 23, 2017 17:49:56 GMT
We couldnt string 3 passes together, so what does he do??? brings on the 2 players players who in the squad (Diouf and Ramadan) who are the least able to keep possession!!!!!! Hughes talks about luck Well, we were very lucky to get 3 points out of that game today Grow up. The result was far more vital than the performance (which was ok for 50 mins) we have gad bad luck, we got some good luck. It's called football. Let's move on and be stronger. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 23, 2017 17:52:28 GMT
Having said that, second half we were absolutely fucking atrocious. I'd say that's as bad as I've ever seen, including the shit under the Pulis era, and also including anything we produced in the championship and league one. That was 45 minutes of "rabbit in headlights". The whole side just froze. There was zero positive of note. We just let a really poor side put us under the cosh for prolonged periods of time. We should have been in the ascendancy but just appeared to try our best to throw it all away. Let's enjoy the 3 points, let's enjoy Christmas, and let's enjoy Match of the day, which very rarely happens. But hopefully Coates and Co. don't lose sight of the fact the man in charge has no long term future at the club. You probably don't know the first thing about survival at the lowest ebb. You probably think Stoke is a top 8 side and should be playing as such. You had already forgotten we had only one win in the last seven and only four overall. You once experienced worse but have forgotten completely. Today you found out what football is like at the bottom end. The last 45 minutes our job was not to play the beautiful game. Our only purpose was to survive and walk away with three points. You say that "There was zero positive of note". I can only assume that you walked off before the game was over and missed out on our third goal. Moreover it was our young winger's first important goal and that has monumental importance. They were one of the worst sides in the league and we sat back and panicked. We were lucky they were so poor. We were at least clinical today and scored three fine goals but for huge clumps of the game it was two bald men fighting over a comb. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 23, 2017 18:01:58 GMT
Absolutely dire performance.
"Desperation football" as I heard Pejic say on the radio.
Just shows where the confidence is. As low as it's possible to be, and we were a shapeless mess.
We can only hope that it's some kind of monkey off the back and it somehow leads to improved displays over Christmas, but it's hard to see how based on today.
A very limited West Brom, who hadn't won since August, were allowed to attack us non-stop.
17 shots to 9
11 corners to 1
57% possession.
Well, we got through it somehow, but they'll feel very aggrieved to have lost.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 18:02:43 GMT
Having said that, second half we were absolutely fucking atrocious. I'd say that's as bad as I've ever seen, including the shit under the Pulis era, and also including anything we produced in the championship and league one. That was 45 minutes of "rabbit in headlights". The whole side just froze. There was zero positive of note. We just let a really poor side put us under the cosh for prolonged periods of time. We should have been in the ascendancy but just appeared to try our best to throw it all away. Let's enjoy the 3 points, let's enjoy Christmas, and let's enjoy Match of the day, which very rarely happens. But hopefully Coates and Co. don't lose sight of the fact the man in charge has no long term future at the club. You probably don't know the first thing about survival at the lowest ebb. You probably think Stoke is a top 8 side and should be playing as such. You had already forgotten we had only one win in the last seven and only four overall. You once experienced worse but have forgotten completely. Today you found out what football is like at the bottom end. The last 45 minutes our job was not to play the beautiful game. Our only purpose was to survive and walk away with three points. You say that "There was zero positive of note". I can only assume that you walked off before the game was over and missed out on our third goal. Moreover it was our young winger's first important goal and that has monumental importance. If you think our side should be where it is then you are possibly the most pessimistic person i've ever seen. Our job today should've been to coast past one of the worst sides in the league, and we stuck 9 men behind the ball, hoofed it aimlessly to Crouch and got very lucky not to concede several more goals. Happy with the win but what's the point being a fan if you can't have a view on a poor performance. |
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