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Post by captainmainwaring on Dec 23, 2017 10:17:18 GMT
Last season we weren't great but we looked much more solid than this year. A lot of the players we let go copped a lot of flak here but are we missing their "commitment" or is our demise this year more down to how Hughes sets up the team? I'd really hoped we push on this year but we look like a dogs home collection of misfits It might be a good idea to bring Imbula back.
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Dec 23, 2017 10:28:32 GMT
Last season we weren't great but we looked much more solid than this year. A lot of the players we let go copped a lot of flak here but are we missing their "commitment" or is our demise this year more down to how Hughes sets up the team? I'd really hoped we push on this year but we look like a dogs home collection of misfits It might be a good idea to bring Imbula back. Complete with hot water bottle thermal hat coat and gloves😩
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 23, 2017 10:28:55 GMT
Last season we weren't great but we looked much more solid than this year. A lot of the players we let go copped a lot of flak here but are we missing their "commitment" or is our demise this year more down to how Hughes sets up the team? I'd really hoped we push on this year but we look like a dogs home collection of misfits It might be a good idea to bring Imbula back. Do we really need someone who can't be arsed to try and win the ball back when he loses it. Can't control or kick a football at all with his right foot If forced onto his right foot by the opposition goes on mazy runs to nowhere, with no purpose at all, except to work the ball onto his left foot Can't even be both bothered to say good morning to his team mates And when the going gets though, goes missing
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Post by mistergumby on Dec 23, 2017 10:36:04 GMT
Whelan should have retired, he's been shocking at Villa. *should OF
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Post by captainmainwaring on Dec 23, 2017 10:39:59 GMT
It might be a good idea to bring Imbula back. Do we really need someone who can't be arsed to try and win the ball back when he loses it. Can't control or kick a football at all with his right foot If forced onto his right foot by the opposition goes on mazy runs to nowhere, with no purpose at all, except to work the ball onto his left foot Can't even be both bothered to say good morning to his team mates And when the going gets though, goes missing We accommodate Shaqiri. I don't think I've seen Shaq uses his right foot, I haven't seen Shaq make more than a token effort to win the ball back. I think Shaqiri is a good player that can hurt teams. I think Imbula is a good player that could hurt teams. I think MH needs all the options he can get at the moment and Imbula could be one of them.
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 23, 2017 10:46:46 GMT
Do we really need someone who can't be arsed to try and win the ball back when he loses it. Can't control or kick a football at all with his right foot If forced onto his right foot by the opposition goes on mazy runs to nowhere, with no purpose at all, except to work the ball onto his left foot Can't even be both bothered to say good morning to his team mates And when the going gets though, goes missing We accommodate Shaqiri. I don't think I've seen Shaq uses his right foot, I haven't seen Shaq make more than a token effort to win the ball back. I think Shaqiri is a good player that can hurt teams. I think Imbula is a good player that could hurt teams. I think MH needs all the options he can get at the moment and Imbula ocould be one of them. Shaq his two footed but stronger with his left. Imbula is totally one footed, which is alarming when you are playing at a level, where opponents force you onto your weaker foot Shaq also gets goals and assists for his team, his multi lingual, and happy to talk to his team mates
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Post by captainmainwaring on Dec 23, 2017 11:04:02 GMT
We accommodate Shaqiri. I don't think I've seen Shaq uses his right foot, I haven't seen Shaq make more than a token effort to win the ball back. I think Shaqiri is a good player that can hurt teams. I think Imbula is a good player that could hurt teams. I think MH needs all the options he can get at the moment and Imbula ocould be one of them. Shaq his two footed but stronger with his left. Imbula is totally one footed, which is alarming when you are playing at a level, where opponents force you onto your weaker foot Shaq also gets goals and assists for his team, his multi lingual, and happy to talk to his team mates Of course you are correct Shaq is a great player on his day. What I'm saying is, if Shaq was out injured Imbula could be a good option to have as a replacement. Imubla is a good player on his day despite not being perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 11:04:41 GMT
Personally think Fletcher is a much better player. He does look to get the ball forward, unlike Whelan, who was sideways or backwards. How many assists has he got this season ? his passing is woeful and has been for a while he needs dropping but who do we replace him with ? It's not his job to be major assister, if you analyse his movement he's been in on a number of goals, but he wasn't the actual last to pass. But I don't think he's doing a good job defensively, his sense of positioning is very poor, he flutters about without gaining anything, he's not really a ball winner, and his passing from deep frequnetly goes straight to an opponent thus putting us under pressure when we were looking to get forward. Worse, he feels as if he has to come up with smart flicks, possibly to proove he really is a former manure player. Further he is our vice captain, but he certainly didn't get his education from the Keane school of inspiring others, a member of which Whelan was to some degree. To get back to the op, if we think we are missing Bardsley we are deluding ourselves, because he never really settled into the team. On the one hand we may remember how he got stuck in the tackles, and set an example for others, but we may then have forgotten how often his timing was poor, he cost us goals, and he got himself sent off for laughable offenses. He was frequently injured. With regard to Arnautovic it's easy to look at his last three games and say we would have liked to have that. However the first 14 games, three of which he was suspended, and some where he was on the bench, were deplorable. He's managed to pick himself up, and credit to him because already there were shammers ready to sell him in the next transfer window. But as those who followed him here for the best part of his career, we know as well as anyone that any measure of personal success leads him to think he really is a superstar, and he should be above tracking back and so on just like players who he perceives to be on his level like Zlatan, Ronaldo, and Messi, and what then follows is not very pretty but very frustrating. With Walters and Whelan we miss the best years of their lives which were spent here, but they will never reach those levels again. Jon's unselfish throwing himself about came at a price and he's paying for it with injuries in his last year here and first year at Burnley. Whelan's case is a little different. I think his confidence was dealt a major blow when he came back from vcation and discovered that Hughes was not only ready but keen on dispensing with his services. He thought he was going to end his career here. It took him a little time to get going at Villa, but as far as I understand not having seen him, he's become very influential. And that's exactly what we are missing more than the actual legs. Hughes said in the summer when questioned about the departure of Jon and Glenn that other players would emerge and assume responsibility. I don't have a clue what the dressing room's like at the moment but on the field of play nobody has come in to be as vocal as those two. Nobody. And that's bad, because it's when players' confidence is lacking that they need someone to kick them into action, to put in the extra effort, to inspire to do better.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 23, 2017 11:33:43 GMT
I think you really need strong characters in a squad . Ours used to be full of them and no doubt Whelan Bards and Walters were . So when you replace them you need to find these qualities as well as talent . Arnie was a different type and these players move on for money and other things . Question is how do you replace him . Our answer so far is pretty badly and quite how We expected to with a free and a loan is a mystery. Of course the biggest transfer mystery of the summer remains Harry Maguire 17m . Kevin Wimmer 18m.
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 23, 2017 11:54:52 GMT
Never entirely convinced by any of them as Premiership players but Bards doing well at the moment and at least they had the heart that people like Imbula and Wimmer lack. I know Bards would have welcomed Arnie back to the stadium last week with a cruncher if he'd have played against him and I'd have certainly kept him over Johnson though!! Keeping Johnson over Bardsley was lunacy.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Dec 24, 2017 7:22:51 GMT
We accommodate Shaqiri. I don't think I've seen Shaq uses his right foot, I haven't seen Shaq make more than a token effort to win the ball back. I think Shaqiri is a good player that can hurt teams. I think Imbula is a good player that could hurt teams. I think MH needs all the options he can get at the moment and Imbula ocould be one of them. Shaq his two footed but stronger with his left. Imbula is totally one footed, which is alarming when you are playing at a level, where opponents force you onto your weaker foot Shaq also gets goals and assists for his team, his multi lingual, and happy to talk to his team mates Shaqiri has no right foot at all, just a wooden peg shaped to fit into a football boot, he never uses his right foot, always cuts inside and then delivers a shit ball with his left anyway. We put 2 good crosses in to the box yesterday and they were both from Edwards getting to the touch line and delivering. Shaqiri was garbage and we may as well have played with 10 men today instead of have him on the pitch.
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Post by mattface on Dec 24, 2017 8:40:52 GMT
We are missing the Imbula in his first 6 months. He would actually run forward with the ball at pace - something we are clearly lacking at the moment.
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Post by JC9 on Dec 24, 2017 9:28:06 GMT
Arnie - I'd take him back in a heart beat.
Glen - I don't miss Whelan but we should have brought a better replacement then Fletcher.
Walters - I wouldn't have sold SJW, his aggression and fight is exactly what we need right now and he knows how to get into goal scoring positions.
Imbula - We know he's got potential to be a top player but sending him out on loan wasn't the answer, Imbula could have found his form if Hughes worked with him just like he did with Arnie.
Bardsley- Solid at the back and we should never have sold him (AGAIN WITHOUT A REPLACEMENT).
Bojan - I would have kept Bo simply because we are always lacking goals and creativity going forward. Personally I still have hope that he can become the player he used to be.
Muniesa - This really winds me up. We've been in need of a new LB for years. Hughes set up to play 5 at the back this year, but he sticks with Pieters who can't play LWB, he can't attack, can't cross a ball, always out of position. Muniesa is perfect for that role, he's brilliant at crossing the ball, he has a defensive AND an attacking mindset, and his ball control is 10x better than Eric.
If we kept these players in the transfer window, My team would be: (4-2-3-1)
Jack
Bardsley Zouma Martins-Indi Muniesa
Allen (c) Imbula/Affelay
Arnie Shaq Choupo-Moting
Diouf
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