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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 16:43:55 GMT
I'm reading various threads about how we should line up / set up for the next few games, nobody even mentions Adam. When he came on at the weekend, he looked positive and made an impact - yet people automatically select Fletcher and Allen. Surely he's worth a start given the last 3 games of them pair?
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Post by wearepremierleague on Dec 20, 2017 16:44:27 GMT
He's better than Fletcher
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Dec 20, 2017 16:45:28 GMT
In a 3 man midfield yes, but he doesn’t have the legs in a 2 man- same as Fletcher
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 16:46:21 GMT
Legs gone.
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Post by medwaypotter on Dec 20, 2017 16:47:45 GMT
Ok on the offensive, but won't (or can't ? ) do the defensive work,
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Post by pez75 on Dec 20, 2017 16:47:57 GMT
I'm reading various threads about how we should line up / set up for the next few games, nobody even mentions Adam. When he came on at the weekend, he looked positive and made an impact - yet people automatically select Fletcher and Allen. Surely he's worth a start given the last 3 games of them pair? He pumped in a couple of quick, dangerous early crosses in typical Charlie style when we had some momentum afer the subs. Then he was a passenger for the rest of the game...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 16:49:21 GMT
I'm reading various threads about how we should line up / set up for the next few games, nobody even mentions Adam. When he came on at the weekend, he looked positive and made an impact - yet people automatically select Fletcher and Allen. Surely he's worth a start given the last 3 games of them pair? He pumped in a couple of quick, dangerous early crosses in typical Charlie style when we had some momentum afer the subs. Then he was Fletcher for the rest of the game... I've corrected the above for you
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2017 16:49:23 GMT
He was fucked after about 5 minutes on Saturday and made the gaps even bigger.
Do you remember when we were screwed under TP and he put him on the wing? It's about the only place I'd fit him in the side and that's just because he dares to cross a ball and does it well.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 20, 2017 16:50:52 GMT
He’s always been the best option when it comes to pumping balls into the box for Crouch to either score directly or knock them down for someone like Allen or maybe Berahino to run onto.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 20, 2017 16:51:54 GMT
So have Fletcher's. What a wank midfield.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 16:54:25 GMT
So have Fletcher's. What a wank midfield. What's wrong with playing Affy? At least he can run, is fit, and can pass and retain a football. Like, the basics. The things we're missing.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 20, 2017 16:55:09 GMT
Needs to be Allen and Afellay.
Best pairing we have and it still looks weak as piss.
What a wank midfield.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 20, 2017 16:55:45 GMT
I like Adam, so it's a yes from me!!!
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 20, 2017 16:56:47 GMT
Great left foot, appalling fitness levels. In a midfield three, you could just about make an argument to pick him for home games (to be subbed after 60 minutes at the latest). In a midfield two, it is tactical suicide.
It has to be Geoff and Joe, of the current squad, if we field a two, although we may need Geoff at right back or centre back for now.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 20, 2017 17:00:13 GMT
Let's be honest he should have left a long time ago. The fact we're cheering him coming on as a sub in December 2017 says a lot.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 20, 2017 17:02:08 GMT
So have Fletcher's. What a wank midfield. What's wrong with playing Affy? At least he can run, is fit, and can pass and retain a football. Like, the basics. The things we're missing. He's ok, and I agree he at least keeps the ball, which has been sadly lacking lately. I agree with the OP, though, in that Adam doesn't get discussed due to his shortcomings, but at least he provides SOMETHING. I think we need a 3 man midfield because all of our midfielders lack something. That probably creates problems elsewhere, though.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 20, 2017 17:08:16 GMT
He's better than Fletcher He certainly gave us an intent we've not had for a fair few games when he came on. Charlie may be the oft heard word, 'liability' but he can't hold a candle to Fletcher in that regard. It's staggering that Fletcher starts every game, absolutely mind blowing and symptomatic of the shit we're in. Charlie may not be everybody's cup of tea but giving him a try wouldn't be anywhere near insane as Fletcher being the first frigging name on the team sheet each week.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2017 17:09:24 GMT
The problem we have with midfield is that the candidates can do no more than 1 or 2 things well.
Adam-shoot and long passes (occasionally) Allen-run Afellay- keep possession Geoff- head and tackle Fletcher- play the I used to play for Man Yoo card to win free kicks Imbula - carrying the ball forward
We need 2 players who between them can do all of that.
It's a shocking state of affairs in there.
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Post by Gods on Dec 20, 2017 17:14:37 GMT
He's the best footballer we have with the possible exception of Shaq, you just wish he had a better engine.
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Post by lordb on Dec 20, 2017 17:15:36 GMT
He looked allright on Saturday and Albion have a slow midfield. Desperate times, might be a game where his ageing isn't exposed and we gain from his shooting? Roll the dice time for sure
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Post by lordb on Dec 20, 2017 17:16:30 GMT
The problem we have with midfield is that the candidates can do no more than 1 or 2 things well. Adam-shoot and long passes (occasionally) Allen-run Afellay- keep possession Geoff- head and tackle Fletcher- play the I used to play for Man Yoo card to win free kicks Imbula - carrying the ball forward We need 2 players who between them can do all of that. It's a shocking state of affairs in there. Your underselling Allen massively there.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2017 17:31:03 GMT
The problem we have with midfield is that the candidates can do no more than 1 or 2 things well. Adam-shoot and long passes (occasionally) Allen-run Afellay- keep possession Geoff- head and tackle Fletcher- play the I used to play for Man Yoo card to win free kicks Imbula - carrying the ball forward We need 2 players who between them can do all of that. It's a shocking state of affairs in there. Your underselling Allen massively there. Not really. He can't shoot. His tackling is ok. His passing is poor.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 20, 2017 17:39:28 GMT
Charlie’s tackling used to be hilarious now it’s non existent as he can’t get near enough to anyone to even attempt it. He is half a player and we really can’t afford that in our midfield. Last 10 minutes gamble from the bench is his role now.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 20, 2017 17:45:48 GMT
Your underselling Allen massively there. Not really. He can't shoot. His tackling is ok. His passing is poor. Still our best midfielder by far, but I agree, he's far from perfect. Jeez, we have work to do in January!
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 20, 2017 17:51:44 GMT
He is positive
Even better he is positive and quality on the ball
Even better , he is positive , quality on the ball and cynical . Some of his challenges are so cynical , even fabregas would be proud of them
His legs have gone . But I agree , as a very temporary solution in a three man midfield I can see him making sense for us .
Until January !
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Post by thisfootballclub on Dec 20, 2017 17:52:29 GMT
The problem we have with midfield is that the candidates can do no more than 1 or 2 things well. Adam-shoot and long passes (occasionally) Allen-run Afellay- keep possession Geoff- head and tackle Fletcher- play the I used to play for Man Yoo card to win free kicks Imbula - carrying the ball forward We need 2 players who between them can do all of that. It's a shocking state of affairs in there. You've described the complete midfielder there, in no way will Stoke be able to attract / afford one of those. Nzonzi has been the closest and is currently been courted by top sides.
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 20, 2017 17:55:30 GMT
He is positive
Even better he is positive and quality on the ball
Even better , he is positive , quality on the ball and cynical . Some of his challenges are so cynical , even fabregas would be proud of them
His legs have gone . But I agree , as a very temporary solution in a three man midfield I can see him making sense for us .
Until January !
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2017 18:25:19 GMT
The problem we have with midfield is that the candidates can do no more than 1 or 2 things well. Adam-shoot and long passes (occasionally) Allen-run Afellay- keep possession Geoff- head and tackle Fletcher- play the I used to play for Man Yoo card to win free kicks Imbula - carrying the ball forward We need 2 players who between them can do all of that. It's a shocking state of affairs in there. You've described the complete midfielder there, in no way will Stoke be able to attract / afford one of those. Nzonzi has been the closest and is currently been courted by top sides. I've said 2 players who between them can provide that. I honestly don't think that's too much to ask.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 18:33:15 GMT
I'd start him on Satdee. He's the only central midfielder we have got who can have a positive effect on the game going forward.
Whether we have to change formation to fit him in or not, I'd start him at home against West Brom.
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 20, 2017 18:50:25 GMT
We should pay him in the "caretaker manager" role until the end of the season. No need for any legs as he only needs to stand on the half way line
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