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Post by mrcoke on Dec 19, 2017 13:56:28 GMT
I can't imagine Burnley's run is going to carry on. How is a team who hardly score any goals going to finish in the top half of the table? If they do it will be a recipe for disastrously boring matches in the future as all except the top big 6 clubs will follow suit.
I think their run of success will run out because:
1. They don't score enough goals.
2. Other teams will suss them out and start scoring more against them.
3. They have had fewer changes in players than any other team (I heard somewhere) and their players will tire, get injured, suspended and disrupt their formation.
4. Their luck will run out.
5. They could lose their manager.
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Post by thebet365 on Dec 19, 2017 13:59:14 GMT
I'd say their next 5 games will prove if they're going to stay the distance or return to a more normal position.
Spurs,Utd, Liverpool And Man City + Huddersfield away.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 19, 2017 14:01:27 GMT
There is always a lower echelon team that does well then fades away. When they do fade away they often struggle this season or the next.
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 19, 2017 14:21:11 GMT
There is always a lower echelon team that does well then fades away. When they do fade away they often struggle this season or the next. You mean like Stoke. |
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Post by adamsson on Dec 19, 2017 14:23:21 GMT
There is always a lower echelon team that does well then fades away. When they do fade away they often struggle this season or the next. You mean like Stoke. We seem to have missed the doing well bit |
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 19, 2017 14:27:59 GMT
We seem to have missed the doing well bit So now you think finishing 9th for 3 years is not doing well? You're a top 6 man are you? |
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Post by adamsson on Dec 19, 2017 14:30:06 GMT
We seem to have missed the doing well bit So now you think finishing 9th for 3 years is not doing well? You're a top 6 man are you? I meant this season  |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 19, 2017 14:31:30 GMT
There is always a lower echelon team that does well then fades away. When they do fade away they often struggle this season or the next. You mean like Stoke. How like stoke at all? Like Blackpool and Hull and West Brom for a bit for example Stoke have never been one of those teams that is near the top for half a season then drops. Not under Hughes not under Pulis. |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 19, 2017 14:32:17 GMT
We seem to have missed the doing well bit So now you think finishing 9th for 3 years is not doing well? You're a top 6 man are you? Stoke always started slowly and rose to that position rather than start off strong and drop to that position Stop rewriting history |
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 19, 2017 14:35:12 GMT
So now you think finishing 9th for 3 years is not doing well? You're a top 6 man are you? Stoke always started slowly and rose to that position rather than start off strong and drop to that position Stop rewriting history Sorry salop, I'll have to run that through an interpreter. |
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 19, 2017 14:37:20 GMT
I can't imagine Burnley's run is going to carry on. That's what they said about Leicester a couple of seasons back. |
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 19, 2017 14:50:03 GMT
Burnley fans will be wetting themselves at the prospect of 'breaking into the top 6'. They might do it for a season, but I hope they realise that runs like the one they are on always end sooner or later. Enjoy it while it lasts lads. You'll soon be wondering where it all went wrong and Dyche will be getting pelters for taking them backwards.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 19, 2017 14:52:45 GMT
No coincidence that Burnley have the fewest team changes off all clubs this season. Chelsea last season and Leicester the season before.
Don't think we've been able field the same defence never mind team in two games running.
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Post by alster on Dec 19, 2017 14:55:03 GMT
I can't imagine Burnley's run is going to carry on. How is a team who hardly score any goals going to finish in the top half of the table? If they do it will be a recipe for disastrously boring matches in the future as all except the top big 6 clubs will follow suit. I think their run of success will run out because: 1. They don't score enough goals. 2. Other teams will suss them out and start scoring more against them. 3. They have had fewer changes in players than any other team (I heard somewhere) and their players will tire, get injured, suspended and disrupt their formation. 4. Their luck will run out. 5. They could lose their manager. Just depends what you mean by burst. What they are doing is comparable to us in our better seasons. I expect them to fall away but not self destruct. Its clear they are bucking the trend both football and spending wise but I'm not sure why people hold up one team that is bucking the trend and think that's the path to follow. I'd much rather our team spent more on signing exciting players, played better football and scored more goals than Burnley. They're doing pretty well at the moment and we're doing pretty miserably but I just don't aspire to be Burnley in fact as a role model for all the teams in the league I think they're the last one I'd want to see us follow. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 19, 2017 14:58:21 GMT
I can't imagine Burnley's run is going to carry on. How is a team who hardly score any goals going to finish in the top half of the table? If they do it will be a recipe for disastrously boring matches in the future as all except the top big 6 clubs will follow suit. I think their run of success will run out because: 1. They don't score enough goals. 2. Other teams will suss them out and start scoring more against them. 3. They have had fewer changes in players than any other team (I heard somewhere) and their players will tire, get injured, suspended and disrupt their formation. 4. Their luck will run out. 5. They could lose their manager. k But weren’t our successful seasons with TP and Hughes based on tight defence letting in few goals and scoring even less. Have we ever had positive goal differenc3 in the premier? |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 19, 2017 14:58:59 GMT
Burnley's bubble will stay intact, they'll finish 7th.
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Post by stokeyank on Dec 19, 2017 15:29:11 GMT
I can't imagine Burnley's run is going to carry on. How is a team who hardly score any goals going to finish in the top half of the table? If they do it will be a recipe for disastrously boring matches in the future as all except the top big 6 clubs will follow suit. I think their run of success will run out because: 1. They don't score enough goals. 2. Other teams will suss them out and start scoring more against them. 3. They have had fewer changes in players than any other team (I heard somewhere) and their players will tire, get injured, suspended and disrupt their formation. 4. Their luck will run out. 5. They could lose their manager. k But weren’t our successful seasons with TP and Hughes based on tight defence letting in few goals and scoring even less. Have we ever had positive goal differenc3 in the premier? Yes 2 years ago when we smacked Liverpool in the last game. Think it was +2 |
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Post by stokie1954 on Dec 19, 2017 15:31:38 GMT
Don't know, don't care!.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 19, 2017 15:46:01 GMT
Havn't really checked the depth of their squad but Tarkovski's banned for a couple.
Hopefully that'll disrupt their stoic back line.
I've warmed a bit to Dyche, he talked the talk pre match against us, and then went on to walk it.
Hopefully a couple of tonkings over the turkey this xmas and the bauble will bost a bit.
Hope so.
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Post by alster on Dec 19, 2017 15:54:42 GMT
Havn't really checked the depth of their squad but Tarkovski's banned for a couple. Hopefully that'll disrupt their stoic back line. I've warmed a bit to Dyche, he talked the talk pre match against us, and then went on to walk it. Hopefully a couple of tonkings over the turkey this xmas and the bauble will bost a bit. Hope so. How did you know what he was saying were there subtitles  |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 19, 2017 15:57:56 GMT
Havn't really checked the depth of their squad but Tarkovski's banned for a couple. Hopefully that'll disrupt their stoic back line. I've warmed a bit to Dyche, he talked the talk pre match against us, and then went on to walk it. Hopefully a couple of tonkings over the turkey this xmas and the bauble will bost a bit. Hope so. How did you know what he was saying were there subtitles Funnily enough he sounded less gravelly than I've heard him, thought he'd been gargling, or maybe his new found confidence meant he could ditch that particular verbal affectation.  |
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Post by Northy on Dec 19, 2017 16:03:17 GMT
How is a team who hardly score any goals going to finish in the top half of the table? Quality centre half's, I'd swap their two for our two on Saturday, and a solid defensive unit. Don't you remember the song one nil to the Arse-e-nal, it didn't do them to badly back then. |
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 19, 2017 16:30:55 GMT
Last season Southampton finished 8th with 41 goals. The highest team with less than a goal-per-game average was Hull... 18th (37 goals)
The season before, we were the highest 'low scorers' with 41 goals and finished 9th. West Brom were 14th with 34 (the highest team with less than a goal-per-game average)
Fulham finished 7th in 08/09 with 39 goals.
Leeds managed 11th in 96/97 with just 28 goals....normally that gets you relegated
The highest I can find with less than a goal-per-game average in a 38 game season is Palace in 2013/14, finishing 11th with 33 goals (Arsenal finished 10th in 92/93 with 40 goals in 42 games).
Not saying they can't do it, they could carry on getting 1-0's all season...but history suggests that teams who don't average a goal a game don't finish in the top half.
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Post by senojbor on Dec 19, 2017 16:36:51 GMT
I don't know what the point of this thread is apart from making the poster look like he's envious of their good form.
Good luck to them
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 19, 2017 17:15:19 GMT
The day Hughes decides the formation and tactics!  |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 19, 2017 17:22:05 GMT
I don't think for a moment they will finish in the Top 6 or maybe even the Top 10.
What they do have is a decent squad with enough good players who all work their bollocks off and play to a system.
So they will be fine with around 45+ points even when they have a slump . For a club their size and with their budget it's a great effort.
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Post by lordb on Dec 19, 2017 17:30:31 GMT
Given their budget and given a large percentage of their support have enjoyed actual 4th division football I say good luck to them
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 17:53:08 GMT
Sides that rely on defending and having things drop for them to scrape victories tend to have a couple of good runs every now and then, then things stop falling for them and it slows down.
probably end up 9th-12th. good luck to em though, rather them than sides like Everton/Saints/West Ham etc being up there.
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 19, 2017 18:11:31 GMT
They will be fine , as long as they carry on bringing better players
The moment they go down sparky's route of selling your better players , and bringing in inferior ones , it will all go wrong
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Post by Cast no shadow on Dec 19, 2017 18:13:33 GMT
I'd say their next 5 games will prove if they're going to stay the distance or return to a more normal position. Spurs,Utd, Liverpool And Man City + Huddersfield away. Havent looked at their fixtures, which utd? Newcastle? Man? west ham? |
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