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Post by partickpotter on Dec 19, 2017 7:49:55 GMT
This type of lazy journalism is just standard fare for newspapers looking to fill column inches.
It's a story that was inevitable as our struggles continue after Pulis got his cards at West Brom. Whether or not there is truth behind the story is irrelevant as far as the newspapers are concerned. It's a quick, easy piece to write and serves its purpose for them as filler. Hopefully, as far as they are concerned, it will get some folks wound up and maybe drive visits to their web site.
Don't believe what you read - particularly in the Sun sports pages.
Although that hardly needs saying!
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Post by yes on Dec 19, 2017 7:50:33 GMT
I also love how everyone is fellating him again despite his disgusting antics at the Britannia whenever he used to bowl into town with whatever team was unlucky enough to have him in charge at the time. That thank you applause for him will forever remain the most cringeworthy and embarrassing thing I’ve ever seen at a football match, get a bastard grip. Oh and just in case it’s not clear enough for everyone tonguing his arsehole acting as if he’s the only football manager to ever keep a team up ever: He doesn’t give one solitary fuck about you, this club, or where it finishes in the league.But keep pretending that he’s the lord and messiah of everything, despite a high court judge ruling him to be one of the most unpleasant and spiteful men he’s ever had the displeasure of crossing paths with, and i’ll refer again to his antics at our ground, bouncing around like a chimp on crystal meth, actively encouraging his players to get ours sent off. As for this “anyone who wants to see the club relegated isn’t a real fan” bollocks, that’s a load of shit as well, I’d rather watch my team play with freedom in the Championship and enjoy the odd weekday match than endure a complete lack of ambition to do anything with that fucking taffy gurning wanker in charge, and the Championship is an absolutely shit league but I’d still rather that than Swansea away being treated as a bonus game, and that we should just be grateful for “eating at the top table” as that cunt says. But I suppose Peter Coates specialises in a complete lack of ambition, so I fully expect him to roll this complete dogs dick of a man out for an unprecedented third stint in charge as he continues to dither and piss himself in his directors box, I think it’s about time for you and the gentleman’s club you’ve assembled down there Peter to all retire to the manor and spend your time playing cribbage, because you clearly don’t really give a toss about Stoke anymore. Coates doesn't deserve the personal insults and bile that is being aimed at him.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 19, 2017 7:56:44 GMT
"People wouldn't actually rather go down, they're just saying that".
No, really... I would rather go down. Attempting to draw 38 games a season 0-0 whilst being told I should be thankful ain't my idea of fun. The Premier League isn't the be all and end all. If it's a choice between P***s or relegation, I'd take relegation.
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 19, 2017 7:57:28 GMT
I also love how everyone is fellating him again despite his disgusting antics at the Britannia whenever he used to bowl into town with whatever team was unlucky enough to have him in charge at the time. That thank you applause for him will forever remain the most cringeworthy and embarrassing thing I’ve ever seen at a football match, get a bastard grip. Oh and just in case it’s not clear enough for everyone tonguing his arsehole acting as if he’s the only football manager to ever keep a team up ever: He doesn’t give one solitary fuck about you, this club, or where it finishes in the league.But keep pretending that he’s the lord and messiah of everything, despite a high court judge ruling him to be one of the most unpleasant and spiteful men he’s ever had the displeasure of crossing paths with, and i’ll refer again to his antics at our ground, bouncing around like a chimp on crystal meth, actively encouraging his players to get ours sent off. As for this “anyone who wants to see the club relegated isn’t a real fan” bollocks, that’s a load of shit as well, I’d rather watch my team play with freedom in the Championship and enjoy the odd weekday match than endure a complete lack of ambition to do anything with that fucking taffy gurning wanker in charge, and the Championship is an absolutely shit league but I’d still rather that than Swansea away being treated as a bonus game, and that we should just be grateful for “eating at the top table” as that cunt says. But I suppose Peter Coates specialises in a complete lack of ambition, so I fully expect him to roll this complete dogs dick of a man out for an unprecedented third stint in charge as he continues to dither and piss himself in his directors box, I think it’s about time for you and the gentleman’s club you’ve assembled down there Peter to all retire to the manor and spend your time playing cribbage, because you clearly don’t really give a toss about Stoke anymore. Coates specializes in a complete lack of ambition? As our last decade clearly indicates. You refer to Pulis as ‘most unpleasant and spiteful’ . Try reading your post back to yourself and seeing if your hypocrisy alarm goes off. For what it’s worth, I want Hughes gone and I don’t want Pulis back. But I don’t see either as a cunt, wanker, fuckwit etc.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 19, 2017 7:59:51 GMT
I also love how everyone is fellating him again despite his disgusting antics at the Britannia whenever he used to bowl into town with whatever team was unlucky enough to have him in charge at the time. That thank you applause for him will forever remain the most cringeworthy and embarrassing thing I’ve ever seen at a football match, get a bastard grip. Oh and just in case it’s not clear enough for everyone tonguing his arsehole acting as if he’s the only football manager to ever keep a team up ever: He doesn’t give one solitary fuck about you, this club, or where it finishes in the league.But keep pretending that he’s the lord and messiah of everything, despite a high court judge ruling him to be one of the most unpleasant and spiteful men he’s ever had the displeasure of crossing paths with, and i’ll refer again to his antics at our ground, bouncing around like a chimp on crystal meth, actively encouraging his players to get ours sent off. As for this “anyone who wants to see the club relegated isn’t a real fan” bollocks, that’s a load of shit as well, I’d rather watch my team play with freedom in the Championship and enjoy the odd weekday match than endure a complete lack of ambition to do anything with that fucking taffy gurning wanker in charge, and the Championship is an absolutely shit league but I’d still rather that than Swansea away being treated as a bonus game, and that we should just be grateful for “eating at the top table” as that cunt says. But I suppose Peter Coates specialises in a complete lack of ambition, so I fully expect him to roll this complete dogs dick of a man out for an unprecedented third stint in charge as he continues to dither and piss himself in his directors box, I think it’s about time for you and the gentleman’s club you’ve assembled down there Peter to all retire to the manor and spend your time playing cribbage, because you clearly don’t really give a toss about Stoke anymore. Coates specializes in a complete lack of ambition? As our last decade clearly indicates. You refer to Pulis as ‘most unpleasant and spiteful’ . Try reading your post back to yourself and seeing if your hypocrisy alarm goes off. For what it’s worth, I want Hughes gone and I don’t want Pulis back. But I don’t see either as a cunt, wanker, fuckwit etc. I’m going off recent times, rather than being stuck in the early Prem days, and I like to vent, angrily.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 19, 2017 8:02:17 GMT
Feels like only a matter of time to me. Maybe we are waiting for us to get to a certain depth in the brown stuff so as to make the prospect of his return more paletable, not just for supporters but for internal opposition to his return also? Maybe scholes is so quiet at the minute because hes lost the "him or me" ultimatum? Wiuld pulis' arrival be more acceptable if it meant the end of scholes and cartwright? He wouldn't be bringing any youngsters through so at least your venomous threads about them would disappear. I'd love to see good youngsters in the team doing well. Sadly ours are crap...all of them.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 19, 2017 8:03:26 GMT
I wouldn't prefer to be relegated than have pulis back, we have to survive this season at all costs and at the same time get a coherent plan in place for the future.
Its become clear there has been no planning, no strategy. Pulis is the man you bring in when everything at the club is broken. He is good at that job, but it is all very worrying
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Post by Danstoke82 on Dec 19, 2017 8:04:31 GMT
If this is the best plan that the board can come up with should they have the balls to sack Hughes then they all need to leave the club.
Bringing back Pulis for a third spell despite the fact that he was sacked after his second spell as he had taken us as far as he could is sheer lunacy and shows fuck all ambition.
There are other managers out there who would be interested in working with the players at the club. The Pulis era is done, dusted and consigned to the history books.
Show some ambition Coates FFS.
The only positive from this is that its the Sun reporting it and I reckon Im more ITK then their hacks are.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 19, 2017 8:04:55 GMT
He wouldn't be bringing any youngsters through so at least your venomous threads about them would disappear. I'd love to see good youngsters in the team doing well. Sadly ours are crap...all of them. Yes this is true. The youth development isn't working either. Nothing at the club is working
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2017 8:04:56 GMT
Whoever comes in now they are starting from scratch because there is no platform to build on. Could be argued the only reason Hughes got as far as he did was thanks to TPs core of players. So why couldn't the man himself take them that far?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2017 8:06:40 GMT
With things as awful as they are right now, it's tempting to look back on the Pulis years and remember the good stuff- the promotion year, 2008/09, the cup final, the Europa League etc. But I also remember the misery of Jonathon Woodgate at right back, not even trying to win 75% of away games, Rory and Cresser plodding down the wings and sending the fucking reserves to Valencia. Yeah, it's amazing how people sweep all that under the carpet when they're trying to spin the cup final and Europe as two different achievements.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Dec 19, 2017 8:10:39 GMT
The club is in such a mess from top to bottom i can actually see this happening. Coates has dug himself into such a massive hole by keeping Hughes & his merry band of men in there jobs & by showing a complete lack of vision & ambition for the club or the fans. You just know he will turn to him again.
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Post by jeycov on Dec 19, 2017 8:18:19 GMT
He wouldn't be bringing any youngsters through so at least your venomous threads about them would disappear. I'd love to see good youngsters in the team doing well. Sadly ours are crap...all of them. Have we really seen enough of them to make a judgement?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 19, 2017 8:19:28 GMT
If he came back I think I'd probably just laugh. Laugh hysterically to avoid the inevitable tears and massive breakdown.
I'd imagine that would be the only coping mechanism to get me through it.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 19, 2017 8:19:29 GMT
I also love how everyone is fellating him again despite his disgusting antics at the Britannia whenever he used to bowl into town with whatever team was unlucky enough to have him in charge at the time. That thank you applause for him will forever remain the most cringeworthy and embarrassing thing I’ve ever seen at a football match, get a bastard grip. Oh and just in case it’s not clear enough for everyone tonguing his arsehole acting as if he’s the only football manager to ever keep a team up ever: He doesn’t give one solitary fuck about you, this club, or where it finishes in the league.But keep pretending that he’s the lord and messiah of everything, despite a high court judge ruling him to be one of the most unpleasant and spiteful men he’s ever had the displeasure of crossing paths with, and i’ll refer again to his antics at our ground, bouncing around like a chimp on crystal meth, actively encouraging his players to get ours sent off. As for this “anyone who wants to see the club relegated isn’t a real fan” bollocks, that’s a load of shit as well, I’d rather watch my team play with freedom in the Championship and enjoy the odd weekday match than endure a complete lack of ambition to do anything with that fucking taffy gurning wanker in charge, and the Championship is an absolutely shit league but I’d still rather that than Swansea away being treated as a bonus game, and that we should just be grateful for “eating at the top table” as that cunt says. But I suppose Peter Coates specialises in a complete lack of ambition, so I fully expect him to roll this complete dogs dick of a man out for an unprecedented third stint in charge as he continues to dither and piss himself in his directors box, I think it’s about time for you and the gentleman’s club you’ve assembled down there Peter to all retire to the manor and spend your time playing cribbage, because you clearly don’t really give a toss about Stoke anymore. Coates doesn't deserve the personal insults and bile that is being aimed at him. No, he doesn't. It's quite embarrassing.
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Post by potterblade on Dec 19, 2017 8:20:06 GMT
Whoever comes in now they are starting from scratch because there is no platform to build on. Could be argued the only reason Hughes got as far as he did was thanks to TPs core of players. So why couldn't the man himself take them that far? Pulis signed players and nurtured a squad that outgrew his own managerial limitations. We are well below that standard now
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 8:25:51 GMT
Steak n Chips mmmmmmm lovely.....
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 19, 2017 8:27:37 GMT
Whoever comes in now they are starting from scratch because there is no platform to build on. Could be argued the only reason Hughes got as far as he did was thanks to TPs core of players. So why couldn't the man himself take them that far? Maybe by that time the players had heard the same thing over & over too many times and a change was needed, much like where we are at now. We can say pulis never got the players that high in the league but I think I'm right in saying Hughes is operating with a larger wage bill and Pulis did better in cups so it depends on which yardstick is being used. I'm all for pulis coming in for 3 to 5 years and turning the squad back into men instead of pansies tbh, hard working pros working hard fo the shirt etc etc. We can always go again with a 'footballing manager' after that with a different transfer strategy. I'm all for rotating the manager & styles every 3 to 4 year to keep things balanced & fresh. We're so much of a soft touch atm I actually believe we need an injection of pulis and his type of players. How Hughes has let it slip to this is beyond belief, we lack everything that made us respected
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2017 8:30:23 GMT
So why couldn't the man himself take them that far? Pulis signed players and nurtured a squad that outgrew his own managerial limitations. We are well below that standard now Fair comment. It's hugely unfair to give Pulis credit for Hughes' success though.
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Post by Onneravineet on Dec 19, 2017 8:31:10 GMT
It’s a twat of a newspaper that I won’t touch never mind read but there’s any ounce of truth in it then it’s at your peril Coates If you want to alienate the support and see season ticket sales drop through the floor as well as thousands of empty seats then go ahead son Thing is Werrington, is that you as well as possibly hundreds more WILL still buy a season ticket because you always do. Regardless. Did before Pulis and will do even if he returns. I refused a free copy of the Sun the other day but then took one as it was cold and we were having a fire...always best with a bit of paper under the kindling.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2017 8:32:32 GMT
So why couldn't the man himself take them that far? Maybe by that time the players had heard the same thing over & over too many times and a change was needed, much like where we are at now. We can say pulis never got the players that high in the league but I think I'm right in saying Hughes is operating with a larger wage bill and Pulis did better in cups so it depends on which yardstick is being used. I'm all for pulis coming in for 3 to 5 years and turning the squad back into men instead of pansies tbh, hard working pros working hard fo the shirt etc etc. We can always go again with a 'footballing manager' after that with a different transfer strategy. I'm all for rotating the manager & styles every 3 to 4 year to keep things balanced & fresh. We're so much of a soft touch atm I actually believe we need an injection of pulis and his type of players. How Hughes has let it slip to this is beyond belief, we lack everything that made us respected 3 to 5 years? Of just joylessly scrapping, hardly ever scoring, existing for the sake of existing? Dour, defensive, negative football all so you can have another season of dour, defensive, negative football? I'd genuinely rather we went down. I'd rather enjoy watching us and take a step backwards in the hope of long-term growth than watch football porridge for another half a decade.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 19, 2017 8:33:59 GMT
Emotional return. But it doesn't say what the emotions would be.
Despair Misery Disbelief Incredulity
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Post by ted1965 on Dec 19, 2017 8:35:14 GMT
I think this is just a case of who’s in trouble and who’s out of work and a reputation for being a firefighter and hey presto you have a story. Then we have the personal friendship that Tony constantly slips into every salacious press conference where we played his sides followed by his sniping at everything other than Peter Coates. Lets put this to bed once and for all Tony Pulis did a remarkable job at Stoke city but the past is where those memories should stay, he had done as much to destroy my interest in football as Alan Ball and his departure was a breath of fresh air. I remember the doom and gloom merchants predicting it’s over, only Pulis can keep us in the Premier League and we’ll be the next insert name of club in 12 months. Mark Hughes came and amazingly we improved we didn’t get relegated and we’re not languishing with Oldham, Wigan, Charlton and Blackburn, in his time here we’ve outplayed some of the really big boys, Manure, Man city and Chelsea but sadly 5 years in and Mark seems to have run his course as a manager it’s sad but true and yes we should have replaced him in the summer but that’s another argument.
Those people saying they would rather be relegated than have Pulis back in my opinion are forcibly pointing out he’s not the answer and the football world has more to offer than the third coming of Tony Pulis. If Hughes is to be replaced it needs to be someone who can bring a fresh mind to the job and put some smiles back on faces, if we did appoint Tony Pulis it would show lack of imagination and condemn the club to infighting like never before. We are in trouble nobody can deny this but we’re not stranded and if we can beat the Baggies this weekend we’ll have some much needed breathing room not much and it won’t be permanent unless we can get a run of positive results afterwards I will say one thing to Peter Coates if you continue to stick with Mark Hughes than we need to back him in January because whoever is manager come the transfer window needs to be backed with the intention of keeping us in the Premier league because just changing or not changing the manager without some investment in at least 4 new players in January says we don’t care whether we survive or go down and that message of apathy will kill the less hardened supporters who returned when we got promoted.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 8:35:45 GMT
And so the Toxic Civil War between Rimmers and PHW's continues but now re-ignited with new fuel to add to the flames.
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Post by Davef on Dec 19, 2017 8:41:03 GMT
Maybe Coates is tired of seeing his team going for three, four and five every week and just wants to limit the defeats to 0-1?
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 19, 2017 8:42:50 GMT
Maybe by that time the players had heard the same thing over & over too many times and a change was needed, much like where we are at now. We can say pulis never got the players that high in the league but I think I'm right in saying Hughes is operating with a larger wage bill and Pulis did better in cups so it depends on which yardstick is being used. I'm all for pulis coming in for 3 to 5 years and turning the squad back into men instead of pansies tbh, hard working pros working hard fo the shirt etc etc. We can always go again with a 'footballing manager' after that with a different transfer strategy. I'm all for rotating the manager & styles every 3 to 4 year to keep things balanced & fresh. We're so much of a soft touch atm I actually believe we need an injection of pulis and his type of players. How Hughes has let it slip to this is beyond belief, we lack everything that made us respected 3 to 5 years? Of just joylessly scrapping, hardly ever scoring, existing for the sake of existing? Dour, defensive, negative football all so you can have another season of dour, defensive, negative football? I'd genuinely rather we went down. I'd rather enjoy watching us and take a step backwards in the hope of long-term growth than watch football porridge for another half a decade. Not for me I enjoyed watching physical football with opposition bodies flying up in the air and proper tackles flying in. High tempo counter attacking football with a physical edge is ten fold better than this tippy tappy rubbish played by pansies for me. People forget pulis' best football was just as good as hughes best football. A lot of the time it was back to the wall stuff because we were a team playing above our weight on a mission to establish the club & pulis didn't buckle leaving the solid base that somehow Mark has managed to just rot away. Not relegation for me, I'm all for it. Season ticket sold for next season if true Pete, give him some cash for 2 natural wingers & make us respected again instead of a laughing stock 👍
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2017 8:42:55 GMT
The longer the old man dithers the more chance of this fuckin happening😡
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Post by potterblade on Dec 19, 2017 8:47:52 GMT
Pulis signed players and nurtured a squad that outgrew his own managerial limitations. We are well below that standard now Fair comment. It's hugely unfair to give Pulis credit for Hughes' success though. Yes mate, tbf to Hughes you have to say he did the best possible job with the resources, for a good while. The whole time though Shawcross and Glen were fading and Nzonzi was never going to hang around. And we never had a settled playmaker or striker. Saw this coming two years ago so it's frustrating. Pulis is probably best left in the past but we need to accept where we are and get back to basics. I just want to see the players getting their bollocks dirty again at the end of the day.
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 19, 2017 8:49:25 GMT
74% of fans voting on here want Hughes sacked immediately and none of them as a clue who Peter Coates would be able to appoint or how quickly.
Koeman, Rodgers and the like aren't coming to Stoke, the 74% who want Hughes gone immediately haven't thought this through.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 8:51:35 GMT
74% of fans voting on here want Hughes sacked immediately and none of them as a clue who Peter Coates would be able to appoint or how quickly. Koeman, Rodgers and the like aren't coming to Stoke, the 74% who want Hughes gone immediately haven't thought this through. Hugh-exit?
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