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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 17, 2017 22:36:44 GMT
Maybe he was hoping the fans would wait until the game had finished. Possibly! then walk away and send a strongly worded email expressing the concern they have about their club fuck me what a passionless bunch we have. I get it tbh, fans behind the team for the full 90 etc but thats never going to happen given the state we are in.
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 17, 2017 22:37:07 GMT
In fairness to Jack the goals raining in aren't helping his England career
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 17, 2017 22:41:16 GMT
How sure are you Hughes wanted Wimmer , he said on day one he's one for the future One for the future doesn't mean he didn't want him, it says to me he thinks he needs work and isn't the finished article. He is that poor I really can't see him ever being good enough. He is that incompetent that I would be genuinely surprised if he actually ties his own laces.
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Post by robinplumpton on Dec 17, 2017 22:43:02 GMT
Commented on his reaction to the crowd during the Bournemouth game. He tried the shushing (or not) when some cheered at Glen Johnson being substituted. The crowd did not get Glen Johnson substituted, his performance did. Earlier he had the chance to make himself a hero when through on goal facing Begovic. Begovic saved and Johnson (one of many ) continued to have a stinker, before being withdrawn. small margins some might say, but those small margins seem to be being exploited by the opposition , leading to the belief that we are quite simply not good enough. The manager bemoans luck and decisions. If we were good enough we wouldn’t have to rely on luck and good decisions. Our lack of goal scoring and goal stopping show we are not good enough. I am dead proud that One of the England goalkeepers plays for us, he genuinely comes across as a good bloke, but be realistic. Asking for fans unquestioning loyalty is a bit much at the mo. Unquestionable faith yes, unquestioning no.. I will always worship the 11 players on the field playing for my team and will do against West Brom. I don’t abuse and I don’t boo, but the, “we got us into this mess and we will sort it out” is wearing a little thin, as it shows no sign of materialising. Will always support, will always follow, will always be loyal, be proud, be Stoke. Come on Stoke City FC, make me feel proud
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 17, 2017 22:58:22 GMT
From his twitter last night/this morning Not seen this, interesting. It definitely appears as if he was giving us some shit for it though And he is 100% correct and he was doing it at 2-0 when our support turned it's attention from good backing to chanting against the manager. There was 15 minutes + stoppage time to go in a league that is notorious for late goals (admittedly I didn't think we would get back into it and so it proved however...) at this point a good percentage of the crowd the up and ultimately so did the players. I'm firmly in the Hughes Out camp now however if anyone can justify how this sort of chanting was meant to inspire or look at providing some form of support to the players when there was so much time left in the game I'm all ears. There was some seriously dick measuring going on in block 21, "I've been coming since the 70s" was my favourite in trying to justify chanting Hughes Out and it's frankly embarrassing. I, along with many others who were at Blackburn a few years ago will know the affect it has on a team when the focus shifts from support to chanting against the manager they were awful that day and looked totally dispirited and so did we for that final 15. Some will say we looked that way for the game however we were still in it even at 2 and any I would say that about any team as we see these turnarounds so frequently. Yes he needs to go and go now and if people want to chant then go for it before or preferably afterwards or even midweek, but for the 90 minutes whilst the lads are on the pitch I can guarantee that not chanting will make them play better but I can guarantee that chanting it will make them play worse.
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Post by samba :) on Dec 17, 2017 23:01:27 GMT
Throws ball at arnie. Gets talking to by arnie. Pussies out. Shawcross intervenes. Gets talking to by arnie. Pussies out.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2017 23:11:19 GMT
Just leave the lad alone for fucks sake. Do we want to get rid of themanager or are we seriously trying to drive our best players out of this club before they actually need to go?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2017 23:12:41 GMT
Throws ball at arnie. Gets talking to by arnie. Pussies out. Shawcross intervenes. Gets talking to by arnie. Pussies out. Behave. The Snake is the biggest pussy out there.
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Post by thegift on Dec 17, 2017 23:14:51 GMT
Just leave the lad alone for fucks sake. Do we want to get rid of themanager or are we seriously trying to drive our best players out of this club before they actually need to go? Leave who alone
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2017 23:24:11 GMT
Just leave the lad alone for fucks sake. Do we want to get rid of themanager or are we seriously trying to drive our best players out of this club before they actually need to go? Leave who alone Who is the subject of the thread?
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Post by blackpoolred on Dec 17, 2017 23:25:27 GMT
Needs to be looking at replays of his performance instead of fecking about on Twitter, especially in WC year.
He has been bang average this season and also needs to understand that when a team are fecking clueless and give in they will get abuse and rightly so, does he think we should be sucking his bollocks. We the supporters do not live in the same pussy bubble that he and the rest of the footballers live in, the team got great support yesterday - more than they deserved
Grow up, learn to handle criticism and improve or feck-off
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Post by hanibal7 on Dec 18, 2017 1:07:52 GMT
What does he mean by "We got ourselves here and we must get out of it together" Who is 'we'? I bet yo dontt believe the moon landing, and 9/11 was a cover up
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Post by hanibal7 on Dec 18, 2017 1:09:33 GMT
One for the future doesn't mean he didn't want him, it says to me he thinks he needs work and isn't the finished article. He is that poor I really can't see him ever being good enough. He is that incompetent that I would be genuinely surprised if he actually ties his own laces. He is 4th or even 5 the choice this season, hope he comes good next season.
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Post by bhp on Dec 18, 2017 1:31:49 GMT
This is going to turn nasty quite quickly. Agree. If we go two down against WBA, the fans will turn again and idk how any player can act surprised about it. Aha gave me a chuckle that. Match of the Day punditry. Goals change games after all. If it's 0-0 at half time there will be boos never mind 0-2 aha
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Post by thegift on Dec 18, 2017 9:12:17 GMT
Leave who alone Who is the subject of the thread? Just asking as to why you think starting a thread is a problem, isn't that the idea of a forum?
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Post by Veritas on Dec 18, 2017 9:14:18 GMT
Great idea have a go at our best player then string it out in public
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Post by thevoid on Dec 18, 2017 9:16:45 GMT
Did anyone notice this from the boothen yesterday? We stuck behind the team until it went 3-0 down (around 80 mins) then the hughes out chants were appearing pretty loud. On 2 o3 3 occasions he turned around shaking his head and pulling faces at boothen. Not really sure what to make of this? Maybe the players are still fully behind Hughes? As long as it says Mark Hughes on the managers office door EVERYONE should be behind him,what is the club motto? "We Surrender"?
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Post by thevoid on Dec 18, 2017 9:18:57 GMT
In fairness to Jack the goals raining in aren't helping his England career That's not the fans' fault. It's hardly shits and giggles for us either.
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Post by thegift on Dec 18, 2017 9:20:25 GMT
Great idea have a go at our best player then string it out in public We're not having a go? Were asking questions as to why he was pulling faces and telling us to 'shhhh' Get a grip you pathetic man.
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Post by enuntio on Dec 18, 2017 9:27:28 GMT
From his twitter last night/this morning Butland has a point. Negativity is not a breeding ground for success. The big question is, What can Hughes and Stoke City FC, including the fans, do about it?
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Post by mrred on Dec 18, 2017 9:32:13 GMT
Unfortunately Jack, there's a number of your team mates that aren't in it together. Therein lies the frustration. Coupled together with a Manager that has had no answer to the problems we've faced for very close to 2 years. On paper we've probably got one of the best teams assembled at Stoke but I'd take the class of 2010 over this lot every day of the week.
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Post by boweryboy on Dec 18, 2017 9:32:13 GMT
Fans will still be here when you are long gone Jack...by the way when will you be putting your transfer request in...as soon as you realise that we will be in the Championship next season no doubt.....
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Post by ethers26 on Dec 18, 2017 9:35:28 GMT
Trouble is, Coates is probably waiting for signs that the players aren't playing for Hughes anymore.
In reality, though, a number of our squad signed to play under Hughes/money. It's all too easy to abort mission when they don't have any particular loyalty to Stoke.
Summed up, that's modern day football, and Coates hasn't woken up to it yet.
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 18, 2017 9:42:17 GMT
Not seen this, interesting. It definitely appears as if he was giving us some shit for it though And he is 100% correct and he was doing it at 2-0 when our support turned it's attention from good backing to chanting against the manager. There was 15 minutes + stoppage time to go in a league that is notorious for late goals (admittedly I didn't think we would get back into it and so it proved however...) at this point a good percentage of the crowd the up and ultimately so did the players. I'm firmly in the Hughes Out camp now however if anyone can justify how this sort of chanting was meant to inspire or look at providing some form of support to the players when there was so much time left in the game I'm all ears. There was some seriously dick measuring going on in block 21, "I've been coming since the 70s" was my favourite in trying to justify chanting Hughes Out and it's frankly embarrassing. I, along with many others who were at Blackburn a few years ago will know the affect it has on a team when the focus shifts from support to chanting against the manager they were awful that day and looked totally dispirited and so did we for that final 15. Some will say we looked that way for the game however we were still in it even at 2 and any I would say that about any team as we see these turnarounds so frequently. Yes he needs to go and go now and if people want to chant then go for it before or preferably afterwards or even midweek, but for the 90 minutes whilst the lads are on the pitch I can guarantee that not chanting will make them play better but I can guarantee that chanting it will make them play worse. The Hughes out chanting wasn't meant to inspire anybody, it was meant to show the owners of the club that things are not alright and to show our feelings which, as paying customers, we are entitled to do. Whether you, Butland, or anybody else think that it is wrong, uninspiring, or whatever is irrelevant, the fact is in the ground at a home game is the best way to make the board know the state of the club and how we as fans are not happy.
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Post by nutterpotter on Dec 18, 2017 9:45:16 GMT
Fans will still be here when you are long gone Jack... by the way when will you be putting your transfer request in...as soon as you realise that we will be in the Championship next season no doubt.....And what exactly is wrong with that?
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Post by biglad180 on Dec 18, 2017 9:50:07 GMT
lets see how loyal to the club is if we go down. its time these players started to earn there money. not fucking give up after 70 mins. the fans will get behind them if it looks like they give a fuck.
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Post by thegift on Dec 18, 2017 9:51:15 GMT
lets see how loyal to the club is if we go down. its time these players started to earn there money. not fucking give up after 70 mins. the fans will get behind them if it looks like they give a fuck. this in a nutshell.
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Post by biglad180 on Dec 18, 2017 9:52:10 GMT
that should read lets see how loyal to the club jack is if we go down
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 18, 2017 12:00:30 GMT
Who is the subject of the thread? Just asking as to why you think starting a thread is a problem, isn't that the idea of a forum? It wasn't aimed at you. You raised a valid point. It was the others who couldn't wait to stick the knife into another of our players that I was taking issue with.
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Post by thegift on Dec 18, 2017 12:04:33 GMT
Just asking as to why you think starting a thread is a problem, isn't that the idea of a forum? It wasn't aimed at you. You raised a valid point. It was the others who couldn't wait to stick the knife into another of our players that I was taking issue with. Some players do need a fucking roasting. Starting with wimmer. Other's don't, like butland, shawcross, crouch and the like. I just don't think butland understands how stoke fans feel. He doesn't experience or understand. The travelling, time, and money spent watching them. Although i do think he cares, when we go down he will be off, still on his 50K a week wages.
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