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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 17, 2017 13:18:45 GMT
Yeah that jumped out didn't it? O'Neil or Pearson? McLeish, Strachan... Shudders ... 😣
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Post by wuzza on Dec 17, 2017 13:20:42 GMT
Yeah that jumped out didn't it? O'Neil or Pearson? McLeish, Strachan... Strachan!! Oh gawd you’ve touched a nerve there. I won’t sleep tonight.
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Post by lordb on Dec 17, 2017 13:21:43 GMT
Indeed
In May whatever league we are in Coates should step down for his son.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 17, 2017 13:24:06 GMT
Pearson is a very, very believable top target.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2017 13:25:27 GMT
Pearson is a very, very believable top target. He is also a very, very uninspiring top target.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 17, 2017 13:27:08 GMT
Pearson is a very, very believable top target.
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Post by liam007 on Dec 17, 2017 13:30:48 GMT
Good god,really hope Coates ain't thinking about Pearson
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 17, 2017 13:32:35 GMT
It's worrying because it's utterly believable.
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Post by lordb on Dec 17, 2017 13:32:54 GMT
Strachan!! Oh gawd you’ve touched a nerve there. I won’t sleep tonight. I'm very sorry. Pearson did well at Southampton & Leicester but did seem to disappear up his own arsehole. Bombed at Derby. He's not Pulis. He might keep Stoke up. I'd prefer O'Neill but it's all barrel scraping. Galtier should be in really but the chairman won't consider him.
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Post by datguy on Dec 17, 2017 13:33:50 GMT
Would certainly be an appointment with a view to the possibility of relegation.
Did alright with Leicester down there.
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 17, 2017 13:37:12 GMT
I like this bit from the Telegraph article re his best achievements “Then going back in 2011 and dismantling a side that didn’t function, with a group of players who at times wore away even our enthusiasm, to eventually get promoted was the best success we had.”
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 17, 2017 13:41:31 GMT
Nigel Pearson now is it?
For the love of god someone bang some heads together at Coates towers !!!!!!
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Post by thevoid on Dec 17, 2017 13:42:00 GMT
He got the boot at Derby after they scored about 6 goals in 12 games. And he'll come cheap from a Belgian 2nd tier club.
Typical Coates appointment. The cheap, dull option.
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Post by Trouserdog on Dec 17, 2017 13:46:47 GMT
There are plenty of people I'd choose over Pearson, but I'd take him over Hughes.
It'd be a high-risk move, yes, but then I'd rather appoint someone who might keep us up rather than stick with someone who almost certainly won't.
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Post by DentySCFC on Dec 17, 2017 13:48:46 GMT
The more and more I think about it - appointing Nigel Pearson makes sense.
Yes, he can be as mad as a box of frogs but he has a proven track record of turning round clubs that look a complete mess.
Leicester - relegated from the Championship, gets them promoted as champions at the first time of asking. In his second stint, wins the championship at a canter signing gems like Vardy and Mahrez for a pittance (self-sufficiency anyone?) and after a difficult first 6 months in the Prem, wins 7 out of the last 9 to keep them up. He was sacked for reasons that were not of his doing (his son) and we all know what happened at Leicester afterwards.
At Derby, he had a mediocre start but was only afforded 3 months after he objected to the Derby chairman using drones at training sessions.
He’s a good manager and if we are to go British, he looks the best bet for me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 13:50:27 GMT
I'm very much at the take anybody stage but Pearson seems a high risk choice. He's clearly a bit unhinged and goes full on loco at the first sign of pressure. Be a bit more imaginative FFS. But like Klopp his passion might make him a legend at Stoke. We are possibly the most passionate fans out there but for some reason we get saddled with a dour manager. Hughes having a sweary at the snake is what he should have been doing from the get go to get Stoker fans behind him. Passion...passion and more passion. WIN THE CROWD AND YOU'LL WIN YOUR FREEDOM
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 17, 2017 13:51:27 GMT
There are plenty of people I'd choose over Pearson, but I'd take him over Hughes. It'd be a high-risk move, yes, but then I'd rather appoint someone who might keep us up rather than stick with someone who almost certainly won't. Yeah, might have it's moments. Like when he grabs Peter by the throat when he's told there's no money in the Jan transfer budget.
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Post by werrington on Dec 17, 2017 13:51:51 GMT
I’d actually like to see us go for the current Derby manager Gary Rowett,
He ticks all the Coates boxes
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 17, 2017 13:52:23 GMT
Passion again, Jesus. Let’s get Barry Fry in shall we?
Is Pearson any good without Walsh finding him the players?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 17, 2017 13:53:08 GMT
I dont think any of the British managers should be on the list as they are all pretty poor options, I'd much prefer for us to go for Galtier but if Coates is hell bent on hamstringing himself with such a narrow pool to choose from, then it's hard to see who would be better than Pearson.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 17, 2017 13:53:23 GMT
I’d actually like to see us go for the current Derby manager Gary Rowett, He’s a bit Tone-like for you isn’t he Mick? Increasingly we need a firefighter, so someone like that is what we’re going to get anyway I guess.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 17, 2017 13:53:27 GMT
Passion again, Jesus. Let’s get Barry Fry in shall we? Is Pearson any good without Walsh finding him the players? And Shakespeare doing the coaching............. I guess we'll find out if he comes!
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Post by gonk on Dec 17, 2017 13:53:55 GMT
Reading those interviews, he wouldn't be coming here on a short term 6 month fire fighting job, you think he'd want a proper contract in order for him to leave Belgium. 18-month deal? He's probably on buttons in Belgium, so can't see him turning down £2m+? Theres no way Coates will be paying that look what Hughes pay .It wii be nothing about the right man ,it will be how cheap they can get a new manger for. Arsene Wenger France Arsenal £8.3 million Antonio Conte Italy Chelsea £6.5 million Jose Mourinho Portugal Manchester United £15 million Jurgen Klopp Germany Liverpool FC £7 million Pep Guardiola Spain Manchester City £15 million Mauricio Pochettino Argentina Tottenham Hotspur £3.5 million Slaven Bilic Croatia West Ham United £3 million Ronald Koeman Netherlands Southampton £2 million Rafael Benitez Spain Newcastle United £4.5 million Sam Allardyce England Sunderland £3 million Claudio Ranieri Italy Leicester city £1.5 million Tony Pulis Wales West Bromwich Albion £2 million Ronald Koeman Netherlands Everton £6 million Remi Garde France Aston Villa £1.2 million Eddie Howe England AFC Bournemouth £750K Walter Mazzarri Italy Watford £1.25 million Aitor Karanka Spain Middlesbrough £355K Sean Dyche England Burnley £420,000 Mark Hughes Wales Stoke city £900K Steve Bruce England Hull city £1 million Francesco Guidolin Italy Swansea city £1 million Alan Pardew England Crystal Palace £1.5 million Alex Neil Scotland Norwich City £700K
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 17, 2017 13:56:38 GMT
The more and more I think about it - appointing Nigel Pearson makes sense. Yes, he can be as mad as a box of frogs but he has a proven track record of turning round clubs that look a complete mess. Leicester - relegated from the Championship, gets them promoted as champions at the first time of asking. In his second stint, wins the championship at a canter signing gems like Vardy and Mahrez for a pittance (self-sufficiency anyone?) and after a difficult first 6 months in the Prem, wins 7 out of the last 9 to keep them up. He was sacked for reasons that were not of his doing (his son) and we all know what happened at Leicester afterwards. At Derby, he had a mediocre start but was only afforded 3 months after he objected to the Derby chairman using drones at training sessions. He’s a good manager and if we are to go British, he looks the best bet for me. I agree Denty, not someone I had thought about but as you say he has good credentials but with some fuck ups along the way not always of his own making. Same as Pulis same as Hughes when they were appointed and both did ok didn’t they? BM
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Post by werrington on Dec 17, 2017 13:57:02 GMT
I’d actually like to see us go for the current Derby manager Gary Rowett, He’s a bit Tone-like for you isn’t he Mick? Increasingly we need a firefighter, so someone like that is what we’re going to get anyway I guess. Tone takes that brand to the extreme mate and is a hard line version of it It can work and be entertaining with the right man in charge of it Rowett is young, British and fine excellent at his 3 clubs so far I’d have him Rob
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 17, 2017 13:57:16 GMT
18-month deal? He's probably on buttons in Belgium, so can't see him turning down £2m+? Theres no way Coates will be paying that look what Hughes pay .It wii be nothing about the right man ,it will be how cheap they can get a new manger for. Arsene Wenger France Arsenal £8.3 million Antonio Conte Italy Chelsea £6.5 million Jose Mourinho Portugal Manchester United £15 million Jurgen Klopp Germany Liverpool FC £7 million Pep Guardiola Spain Manchester City £15 million Mauricio Pochettino Argentina Tottenham Hotspur £3.5 million Slaven Bilic Croatia West Ham United £3 million Ronald Koeman Netherlands Southampton £2 million Rafael Benitez Spain Newcastle United £4.5 million Sam Allardyce England Sunderland £3 million Claudio Ranieri Italy Leicester city £1.5 million Tony Pulis Wales West Bromwich Albion £2 million Ronald Koeman Netherlands Everton £6 million Remi Garde France Aston Villa £1.2 million Eddie Howe England AFC Bournemouth £750K Walter Mazzarri Italy Watford £1.25 million Aitor Karanka Spain Middlesbrough £355K Sean Dyche England Burnley £420,000 Mark Hughes Wales Stoke city £900K Steve Bruce England Hull city £1 million Francesco Guidolin Italy Swansea city £1 million Alan Pardew England Crystal Palace £1.5 million Alex Neil Scotland Norwich City £700K I don't believe that list at all though. It's pure guesswork. Pulis was reportedly on £1.5m when he was here 5 years ago (and was said to be on about the same at the Baggies) We pay competitive wages for our players with a wage bill nearing £100m. There's no way we aren't competitive payers for the manager, who signed his deal when we were riding high.
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Post by werrington on Dec 17, 2017 14:01:38 GMT
The Rogers one could well gather momentum as they are now 3 down at Hearts ?
Out of the champions league and for me the only thing keeping him there was this unbeaten run as their season will just be another nonentity
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 17, 2017 14:04:18 GMT
Pearson was at Stoke for 2 years serving under Megson and Gudjon, Coates and he will know each other. The more I think about it the more this fits together and I don’t think it will be a bad option at all.
BM
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Post by DentySCFC on Dec 17, 2017 14:05:18 GMT
The Rogers one could well gather momentum as they are now 3 down at Hearts ? Out of the champions league and for me the only thing keeping him there was this unbeaten run as their season will just be another nonentity He’s a good manager but even if he did want to come to us, is he the sort of manager for a relegation battle? Defensively he was a joke at Liverpool.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 17, 2017 14:07:21 GMT
The Rogers one could well gather momentum as they are now 3 down at Hearts ? Out of the champions league and for me the only thing keeping him there was this unbeaten run as their season will just be another nonentity He’s a good manager but even if he did want to come to us, is he the sort of manager for a relegation battle? Defensively he was a joke at Liverpool. He wasn’t at Swansea though. And he’s one for a project, he can build something, bring the youth through, improve players etc. Even if we go down.
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