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Post by titanic on Dec 17, 2017 8:16:40 GMT
1952/53? 1976/77? 1984/85? 1989/1990? 1997/1998?
For me the last one 1997/98; taking the easy managerial choice in the Summer (though some similarities here with 89/90), weak investment in the Summer, some encouraging early results then the wheels come off characterised by a very leaky defence....
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Post by Fred Ferret on Dec 17, 2017 8:22:28 GMT
1952/53? 1976/77? 1984/85? 1989/1990? 1997/1998? For me the last one 1997/98; taking the easy managerial choice in the Summer (though some similarities here with 89/90), weak investment in the Summer, some encouraging early results then the wheels come off characterised by a very leaky defence.... One of Sunderland’s more woeful offerings. |
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Post by mattface on Dec 17, 2017 8:27:12 GMT
1952/53? 1976/77? 1984/85? 1989/1990? 1997/1998? For me the last one 1997/98; taking the easy managerial choice in the Summer (though some similarities here with 89/90), weak investment in the Summer, some encouraging early results then the wheels come off characterised by a very leaky defence.... 97/98 definitely |
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Post by dwr17477 on Dec 17, 2017 8:32:41 GMT
1997/1998 but could spiral into 1984/1985 from here on in.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 17, 2017 8:35:16 GMT
97/98 - what a fitting way to mark the 20 year anniversary at The Brit/Bet 365
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Post by barnscfc1 on Dec 17, 2017 8:36:03 GMT
1984 85.... And it still hurts and causes a scar.
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Post by liam007 on Dec 17, 2017 8:36:08 GMT
The 84/5 season was horrendous,went every home game and 4 aways,don't believe we will ever see that again(hopefully).
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Post by liam007 on Dec 17, 2017 8:38:00 GMT
PS...hopefully the thread starters username is not also a prediction.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 17, 2017 8:40:52 GMT
The season Coventry kicked off late and got the result they needed.
Unlike us yesterday.
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Post by pottermouth on Dec 17, 2017 10:32:18 GMT
1984/5, by far the worst squad of players in a decade: no defence as a team; no creativity except from one player and no goal scorer. This could turn holocaust style quite easily if Hughes remains.
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Post by britvic72 on Dec 17, 2017 10:57:18 GMT
I actually think it’s closer to the non-relegation season of 83/84 when we survived on the last day ready for the inevitable the following year when we didn’t improve the team in the Summer
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Post by stokebloke on Dec 17, 2017 10:58:09 GMT
89/90
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Post by neilb987 on Dec 17, 2017 11:28:05 GMT
This team is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as that of the 84/85 season. That season is seared into my memory.
Are any of our defenders as bad as Paul Dyson was? No regular left back all season? Ageing centre-back (Alan Dodd) playing in midfield? Did we have an international class goalie then? Did we have players of the quality of Shaqiri? No.
However, we certainly do have some similar problems. Quality but ageing central midfielders (Hudson, McIlroy vs. Fletcher) Young lad playing on left wing (Phil Heath vs. Sobhi?)
Biggest problems are lack of defensive organisation and, of course, non-scoring strikers (Keith Bertchin, Ian Painter vs. Berahino, Diouf).
Feels more like 76/77 to me ...
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Post by mart57 on Dec 17, 2017 13:55:24 GMT
Neil
Agreed.
Nowhere near the 85/86 disaster, more like 76/77.
A lot of similarities.
For two years after the heights of 74/75 (possibly the best football I've ever seen in 50 plus years as a Stoke fan) read two years after 2015/2016 (probably the best football played since returning to the Premiership, pissing all over United and City pre Xmas and getting to League Cup semis).
Sale of Arnie equates to sale of Jimmy Greenhoff???
England keeper (Shilton/Butland) behind a dodgy defence.
Former heroic centre half in decline (Ryan/Denis Smith)
Signing of goalless Berahino = goalless John Tudor (after his debut)
Signing of a past it centre midfielder (Suddick/Fletcher)
AND, ominously, we played the Baggies on the Saturday before Xmas at home and lost 2-0!!!
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 17, 2017 13:57:09 GMT
89/90. So many similarities.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 14:08:49 GMT
97/98...Fan protests...A few hammerings...Last day heartache, only upside was Citeh went down also thanks to other results.. Though Vale staying up was hard to swallow...
Plus 3 terrible managerial appointments.
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Post by towraytek on Dec 17, 2017 14:47:43 GMT
97/98. Started pretty well, tonked Wolves three nil in October and inexplicably sank thereafter. Must have been at least March 1998 before the club acknowledged we had a problem at all, after months of whistling in the dark. At least now there is a reasonably early acceptance that we are in a relegation battle so that there is time for something to be done about it. Half the route to solving a problem is accepting that you have one in the first place so at least we are beginning to get real.
I know some folk pine after the Championship. I bloody don't. I've loved and cherished our place in the top flight from Ricky's consolation goal at Bolton onward. Don't let's lose it now.
If we could have a season to identify with it might be 67-68 when we flirted with relegation but followed it by one of our most successful periods ever, including our one and only major trophy.
Ek
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Dec 17, 2017 15:01:00 GMT
All of them as they are all shit.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Dec 17, 2017 15:38:47 GMT
We've only had 5 relegation seasons in the last 65 years?
That's not bad going if true.
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Post by titanic on Dec 17, 2017 17:10:50 GMT
We've only had 5 relegation seasons in the last 65 years? That's not bad going if true. But only 5 promotions as well; 62/63, 78/79,92/93, 01/02 07/08 It took us 10 years to bounce back after 53, and 23 after 85. |
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Post by Waggy on Dec 17, 2017 17:18:38 GMT
97/98. Yesterday was like watching the Tranmere game which also lost 3-0. I just hope we don’t have a Birmingham 7-0 match.
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Post by chellpotter on Dec 17, 2017 19:09:08 GMT
Could it be the new corner?
Newly built stand on the original foundations and relegation followed.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 17, 2017 19:15:19 GMT
89/90 definitely. Hughes reign pretty much mirrors Mick Mills's. Good first season getting us back on track, excellent second season, mixed third season where we did OK in the cups, poor 4th season at the endofwhich he should have gone, then you know the rest in his 5th season
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Post by robstokie on Dec 17, 2017 20:49:53 GMT
1997-98 - Pre season negativity, followed by a surprisingly reasonable start chased by a slide that had an inevitable whiff of relegation about it.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 18, 2017 10:20:11 GMT
The Mick Mills similarity is remarkable, in terms of senior Boardroom decision making.
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Post by onionman on Dec 18, 2017 11:37:29 GMT
89/90 definitely. Hughes reign pretty much mirrors Mick Mills's. Good first season getting us back on track, excellent second season, mixed third season where we did OK in the cups, poor 4th season at the endofwhich he should have gone, then you know the rest in his 5th season The sale of Beagrie, injury to Cranson, hopelessness of Tony Ellis and Derek Statham and desperate selection of youngsters like Lee Fowler - they've all been repeated in one way or another. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 18, 2017 12:10:30 GMT
The Mick Mills similarity is remarkable, in terms of senior Boardroom decision making. By the end of 88/89 it was abundantly clear Midtable Mick had hit a dead end. The board made a cowardly decision and gave him a new contract. When it went wrong (as 98% of us knew it would ) he had to be sacked and paid off. Then they made a lazy decision by appointing Ball. The similarity with Mills is it being clear it had stopped working and the manager obviously wasn't going to get it all back on track. It feels like that now. |
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Post by Northy on Dec 18, 2017 12:20:36 GMT
a bit like 97/98 and 76/77
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