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Post by thegift on Dec 16, 2017 20:05:26 GMT
Absolutely disgusting performance first half, i can't believe no one has mentioned it yet.
Missed the most blatant of fouls on Shaqiri then goes up the other end and gives a penalty for the most blatant dive with a clear, unobstructed view from just 10 yards away.
The amount of times shaqiri got fouled and they got away with it for the full 90 minutes - As for time wasting on throw in's corners, free kicks, everything they possibly could. At one stage they switched the 'thrower' 3 fucking times. At this occasion he decided to show a yellow card when west ham must of taken over a full minute to take a throw in.
One of the worst displays in 45 minutes I've witnessed in a long time.
Way out of his depth, needs to fuck off to league 2 and learn his trade, another inept tosspot.
Not taking away stokes shambolic performance, though, and not blaming the referee for the loss either.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 20:08:13 GMT
IMHO it wasn’t a foul on Shaqiri. It was awful play to try the fancy flick when a simple ball out wide would di
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Post by sportsman on Dec 16, 2017 20:08:55 GMT
Which makes Hughes asking for help from the refs even more frustrating. The refs will be privately laughing and jumping for joy at our situation.
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Post by thegift on Dec 16, 2017 20:09:27 GMT
IMHO it wasn’t a foul on Shaqiri. It was awful play to try the fancy flick when a simple ball out wide would di Your reason for it not being a foul is because he tried to flick it instead of playing a simple ball? Come on clyde.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 20:24:43 GMT
IMHO it wasn’t a foul on Shaqiri. It was awful play to try the fancy flick when a simple ball out wide would di Your reason for it not being a foul is because he tried to flick it instead of playing a simple ball? Come on clyde. I just didn’t think it was a foul mate. I was fuming with shaq for trying the most ridiculous flick when he can shimmy inside or play a simple ball. I may be wrong but for me no foul |
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Post by thegift on Dec 16, 2017 20:25:44 GMT
Your reason for it not being a foul is because he tried to flick it instead of playing a simple ball? Come on clyde. I just didn’t think it was a foul mate. I was fuming with shaq for trying the most ridiculous flick when he can shimmy inside or play a simple ball. I may be wrong but for me no foul Out of interest have you watched it back? |
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Post by wuzza on Dec 16, 2017 20:27:13 GMT
He was very very poor but this is lost in our usual rush of give-away goals.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 20:29:02 GMT
I just didn’t think it was a foul mate. I was fuming with shaq for trying the most ridiculous flick when he can shimmy inside or play a simple ball. I may be wrong but for me no foul Out of interest have you watched it back? Only the penalty mate not the shaq incident. But I’ll hold my hands up if I’m wrong. But I genuinely thought shaq could have done better  |
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Post by thegift on Dec 16, 2017 20:30:02 GMT
Out of interest have you watched it back? Only the penalty mate not the shaq incident. But I’ll hold my hands up if I’m wrong. But I genuinely thought shaq could have done better It looks like he's absolutely cloth lined shaq from the replay. |
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Post by simple on Dec 16, 2017 20:54:34 GMT
I did not think it was a foul on Shaqiri but I could not tell from the Boothen if it was a pen,seen reply defo no pen.But the ball travelled 80 yards without us getting a tackle in that’s the teams fault.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 16, 2017 21:09:16 GMT
IMHO it wasn’t a foul on Shaqiri. It was awful play to try the fancy flick when a simple ball out wide would di It was more of a foul than the one he gave ten seconds later. |
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Post by mattface on Dec 16, 2017 21:14:32 GMT
I did not think it was a foul on Shaqiri but I could not tell from the Boothen if it was a pen,seen reply defo no pen.But the ball travelled 80 yards without us getting a tackle in that’s the teams fault. That sort of tackle foul or not gets given as a free kick these days. Doesn't excuse the free run - we've lost the art of kicking folk |
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 16, 2017 21:14:37 GMT
Need to see it all on MOD. Wrong end for me.
Only thing I would say is that Shaq is very good at falling down.
I thought we played well but lost yet again.
Do t know the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 21:15:37 GMT
I liked him in Boardwalk Empire but he’s gone well down in my estimation now the twat.....
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Post by loosestools on Dec 16, 2017 21:20:03 GMT
Need to see it all on MOD. Wrong end for me. Only thing I would say is that Shaq is very good at falling down. I thought we played well but lost yet again. Do t know the answer. Its got to be a change of face in the leadership - whatever we are doing - just aint working. Just like any other successful business, that what happens in life. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2017 21:32:08 GMT
It’s a dive pure and simple but why the fuck did Pieters go to ground?
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Post by Gods on Dec 16, 2017 21:39:34 GMT
David Moyes defence of Lanzini was interesting in the post match.
He said he hoped/thought Lanzini had fallen over with exhaustion having run 70 yards to get there.
Clearly he knows the video shows no contact and is getting West Ham's defence in ahead of the panel.
You'd rather he just said something like 'West ham players don't do that and I'll be having a "chat without coffee" with him in my office on Monday morning'.
It was a shameful episode. I'd love to know how Lanzini feels tonight, shown to be a cheat but is he triumphant or shamed?
It sounds ridiculous when you have lost 3-0 but I can't escape the thought it may well have cost us the game.
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Post by mcw on Dec 16, 2017 21:43:07 GMT
Lanzini won't be feeling anything other than justified in conning the ref to get a penalty. The ref on the other hand is inept and should hold his head in shame.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 16, 2017 21:48:44 GMT
Look we lost because we can't defend, we cant create and we can't score, the managers a useless tactical clown who doesn't appear to be able to motivate or discipline the team. We're always going to get wank refs that make wank decisions but we have to do the business on the pitch ourselves and we are quite simple not. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Dec 16, 2017 23:21:22 GMT
Standard of refs is shocking
10 yards from the dive yet didn’t clock it
Diouf got cynically chopped down yet no card
Watch MOTD....Deeney red carded for bad foul yet Spurs escape 2 reds for potential leg breakers
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Post by thegift on Dec 16, 2017 23:21:45 GMT
David Moyes defence of Lanzini was interesting in the post match. He said he hoped/thought Lanzini had fallen over with exhaustion having run 70 yards to get there. Clearly he knows the video shows no contact and is getting West Ham's defence in ahead of the panel. You'd rather he just said something like 'West ham players don't do that and I'll be having a "chat without coffee" with him in my office on Monday morning'. It was a shameful episode. I'd love to know how Lanzini feels tonight, shown to be a cheat but is he triumphant or shamed? It sounds ridiculous when you have lost 3-0 but I can't escape the thought it may well have cost us the game. Whilst it may of cost us, if you can't create a clear cut chance in 90 mins against a team in the bottom 3 its time to wave goodbye to the premier league gods. |
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Post by samba :) on Dec 16, 2017 23:27:15 GMT
Only the penalty mate not the shaq incident. But I’ll hold my hands up if I’m wrong. But I genuinely thought shaq could have done better It looks like he's absolutely cloth lined shaq from the replay. just seen your avatar. Tickled me |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 16, 2017 23:30:01 GMT
It’s a dive pure and simple but why the fuck did Pieters go to ground? That is exactly what I thought at the time. What did Ekker think was going to happen? |
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Post by Gods on Dec 16, 2017 23:31:06 GMT
David Moyes defence of Lanzini was interesting in the post match. He said he hoped/thought Lanzini had fallen over with exhaustion having run 70 yards to get there. Clearly he knows the video shows no contact and is getting West Ham's defence in ahead of the panel. You'd rather he just said something like 'West ham players don't do that and I'll be having a "chat without coffee" with him in my office on Monday morning'. It was a shameful episode. I'd love to know how Lanzini feels tonight, shown to be a cheat but is he triumphant or shamed? It sounds ridiculous when you have lost 3-0 but I can't escape the thought it may well have cost us the game. Whilst it may of cost us, if you can't create a clear cut chance in 90 mins against a team in the bottom 3 its time to wave goodbye to the premier league gods. Yes, I know! |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 16, 2017 23:34:52 GMT
He should get a ban but that just masks how utterly shit we are all over the pitch and in just about every aspect of the game . It's painful to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 23:36:11 GMT
This twat had one thing in his mind today and one thing only.....give West Ham everything, give Stoke nothing.
1. Shaq, not sure if it was a foul but given what he did decide were fouls (see 2 & 3) then this was a no brainer.
2. Penalty to West Ham when he dived.
3. Free kick to West Ham on two occasions for fouls against Antonio first half when they were two of the most blatant dives you will see in a game ever. The one on the touchline was fucking embarrassing.
4. Bookings for Wimmer and Shawcross for fouling players as they looked to break clear (right decision) yet no yellow card at all for Obiang despite doing exactly that to Shaq twice in the first half and once in the second.
5. Second half giving a throw to West Ham despite it being ours and the linesman giving it to us and Pieters playing Sohbi in with the throw.
6. Free kicks or decisions all in West Hams favour throughout the game.
Now I know people will say its our fault, we can't defend, we can't score etc etc
I do not disagree with that BUT if you have a referee hell bent on giving all decisions to the opposing team to include match changing decisions then it matters not of you can defend like the Germans and attack like the Brazilians you won't ever win a game of football.
Bar Atkinson for his obvious bias it is one of the worst referring performances I've seen in a long time.
Finally on the point of Lanzinis ban.... What a fucking wank rule that is. Well do nothing to assist the team he cheated against but we'll help out the next two teams he faces!! Persoanlly I think he should be banned from playing the next 3 games against the side he cheated against
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 23:37:14 GMT
It’s a dive pure and simple but why the fuck did Pieters go to ground? That is exactly what I thought at the time. What did Ekker think was going to happen? Doesn't make it a penalty though. It's a poor excuse for the referee. |
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Post by Gods on Dec 16, 2017 23:38:07 GMT
Lanzini won't be feeling anything other than justified in conning the ref to get a penalty. The ref on the other hand is inept and should hold his head in shame. That's a bit too much for my comfort like blaming the police for not stopping a murder rather than the murderer for doing the deed in the first place, do you see what I mean?! |
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 16, 2017 23:38:08 GMT
IMHO it wasn’t a foul on Shaqiri. It was awful play to try the fancy flick when a simple ball out wide would di Shaq got chopped down all game and the useless cunt didn't show a card yet he couldn't wait to book a Stoke player. Never a Pen so you are playing against the ref as well. No mark Ref |
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Post by Gods on Dec 16, 2017 23:43:28 GMT
Look we lost because we can't defend, we cant create and we can't score, the managers a useless tactical clown who doesn't appear to be able to motivate or discipline the team. We're always going to get wank refs that make wank decisions but we have to do the business on the pitch ourselves and we are quite simple not. Gouranga. No reason not to debate a penalty given against us which never should have been though. We'd do it on any other day so why not today. |
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