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Post by ravey123 on Dec 16, 2017 19:36:27 GMT
We look shot.
So the logic is - we can't be expansive to try to win games because we end up losing them - sounds like throwing the towel in to me
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Post by 1982stokie on Dec 16, 2017 19:51:39 GMT
No
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Post by 1982stokie on Dec 16, 2017 19:53:12 GMT
We are so bloody slow it scary
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 16, 2017 19:54:09 GMT
"Quick breaks" is not necessarily needed on the title!!!
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Post by wuzza on Dec 16, 2017 19:54:17 GMT
Simple answer is no. It’s a highly mobile game these days and we don’t have the players to live with it.
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Post by thisfootballclub on Dec 16, 2017 21:36:39 GMT
Simple answer is no. It’s a highly mobile game these days and we don’t have the players to live with it. Yes, modern day if player does not possess any pace the he's simply unlikely to succeed in this league, it's almost become a pre-requisite.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 16, 2017 22:00:17 GMT
The only way to get out of this mess is a new manager to come in, organise the defence, and keep numbers behind the ball.
When we go toe to toe with anyone we get smashed, we have no pace, no fitness.
We need to grind results out.
Recently, the performances have become desperate, we are trying to win the ball early and put pressure on, but getting picked off easy. We don't have the players for it.
We have to sit in, then chuck it forward for choupo, diouf, shaq to make something on their own.
We are looking a lot worse with crouchy starting
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Post by pb1863 on Dec 16, 2017 22:09:16 GMT
No wonder we are top of the fair play league as we don’t tackle. We stand off and watch them play . The first was a stupid penalty from a non tackle and you watch the second and third and see his much time we gave them. Unbelievable as we said come on through. Butland must be furious
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 16, 2017 22:22:13 GMT
Have to say Zouma would have taken lanzini out
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 16, 2017 22:24:51 GMT
We do get caught time after time. I can only assume players aren't trying
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 16, 2017 22:24:54 GMT
Have to say Zouma would have taken lanzini out Wimmer tried to...with the most laughable attempted foul in the history of the game. We can't win with this clown in the team. We've had some shit over the years but wimmer is right up there.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 16, 2017 22:27:56 GMT
Have to say Zouma would have taken lanzini out Wimmer tried to...with the most laughable attempted foul in the history of the game. We can't win with this clown in the team. We've had some shit over the years but wimmer is right up there. Exactly my point Dave but yet again comes back to who scouted him , who did the diligence , who authorised the fee . Someone pointed out to me today they had seen Cartwright at stokes last 5 home games , shouldn't he be scouting and rectruiting
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 16, 2017 22:28:38 GMT
No wonder we are top of the fair play league as we don’t tackle. We stand off and watch them play . The first was a stupid penalty from a non tackle and you watch the second and third and see his much time we gave them. Unbelievable as we said come on through. Butland must be furious 25.000 of us know Arnie's a mard arse when tackled strongly, we've seen enough of it over the last 3 seasons. We all know he can be a fragile personality. There wasn't one robust challenge on Arnie all game. I'm not advocating 'doing' him but all our back players stood off him. Incredible.
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 16, 2017 22:30:19 GMT
Have to say Zouma would have taken lanzini out Wimmer tried to...with the most laughable attempted foul in the history of the game. We can't win with this clown in the team. We've had some shit over the years but wimmer is right up there. I thought Shawcross was wank today certainly no worse than Wimmer. At times it looked like he was an extra defender for them. Its all very stale
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Post by simple on Dec 16, 2017 22:33:43 GMT
We must be the slowest team in the league,going forward and backwards.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 16, 2017 22:34:42 GMT
Wimmer tried to...with the most laughable attempted foul in the history of the game. We can't win with this clown in the team. We've had some shit over the years but wimmer is right up there. I thought Shawcross was wank today certainly no worse than Wimmer. At times it looked like he was an extra defender for them. Its all very stale Shawcross is a liability in the opposition penalty box. Of that you'llget no argument from me. He should be fined a weeks wages everytime he crosses the half way line. Kevin wimmer he aint though. Yet again, hes play a key role in the 2 goals that have effectively decided the game. Just watch him on arnie's goal.
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