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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 11:20:14 GMT
He will know what the fuss is when that big sky money disappears and the attendances drop below 20k.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 15, 2017 11:20:15 GMT
Too much to hope you were holding a brick at the time? Reported x
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Post by thegift on Dec 15, 2017 11:21:14 GMT
Did you actually report him for that? You'll never know
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 11:30:42 GMT
The Chairman 'doesn't know what the fuss is about' and is staying the course with Mr. Hughes and the team, as luck would have it Mr. Hughes 'doesn't do relegation', so we should be fine, we can all just kick back and enjoy the remainder of the season, what not to like?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 15, 2017 11:37:32 GMT
I think he's just trying to bat off a bit of what he will see as noise and hysteria, whilst publicly backing his under fire manager. I'm guessing he is looking at this weekend and trying everything to calm things down in order to help get a positive result. As supporters we'll see things the opposite way and there is no problem with that. It's a passionate sport. Fans, regardless of those amongst us that try and say they are calm, will always lose it a bit when teams go through elongated rough patches. It's natural. What goes on behind closed doors will be very different I think. If we lose on Saturday I dare say we will be looking for a new manager, regardless of what he has said here. You could be right. But I'm leaning to taking those comments at face value and we if go for (say) three on Saturday, then even then he'll still have a job against West Brom. I guess it might come down to the reaction in the stands and the decision might ultinately be taken out of Peter's hands. I always find it quite funny how people take certain comments at face value, because it matches up their opinion to do so, then other comments are forthrightly declared as an absolute crock of shit because they don't match their opinion. I have no idea what Peter Coates is thinking but I'd bet the entire contents of my bank account that he's not happy with how things are going and that Mark Hughes knows that he's not happy at how things are going.
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Dec 15, 2017 11:37:47 GMT
There are many things that may (or may not) be going on behind the scenes. But given the league position, the recent form and the long term form, you would think that there would have been some diplomacy in his comments. Regardless of his personal views on Hughes or the severity of the club, alienating the fans helps neither Hughes, the players or the club and it certainly doesn't reduce the potential media coverage that comes about because of it.
This comment reflects that he neither understands the perception of our plight or doesn't care. When I mean care, I mean from a statistical monetary perspective. Claiming to be a life long club fan and being an owner/Chairperson are at odds with each other, because the decisions you would make as a fan are not the decisions you would make as an owner with a vested financial interest. At his stage in life and at his stage in football, he has the potential do frankly not give a fuck, because he can.
However, going back to his comments, its almost as if he is goading the pesky peasants who stand in the cold as a non relevant noise that can easily be replaced. Why didn't he just say something along the lines of;
We (collective and non blaming) were really disappointed in the Burnley result and felt that we deserved something from the game overall, it was a much more solid performance than in recent games which was promising. However, we are where we are because of the collective mistakes (infers club, Manager & Players) we have made over a period of time (makes reference to ongoing form) and we understand the importance of the current situation (we all know were in the shit) - more importantly we understand the fans unease with our current position (Look guys, I know your pissed but its not really helping). Its a position that we don't feel reflects the squads capability(The team is capable of 50 points and we need to address this) and as a club we are working harder than ever to turn the corner and start collecting points moving forward (We are looking at alternative Managers and new players for transfer window), starting with the West Ham game. I and Mark (Collective decision makers taking overall responsibility) understand the importance of our Fans, both Home and Away, and we are confident the players can put in a performance that they will appreciate at the weekend (We cant guarantee a win, but a solid performance is something we need). Its a cruel sport and we all know that a couple of decent results will change the shape of the table.
Because he doesn't care what we or the national press think.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Dec 15, 2017 11:39:29 GMT
Maybe use the money spent on advertising all over the world on some fukin players.. I'm beginning to think he's actually using us for advertising. No personal input from him at all. Maybe travel himself with schloles on free travel on 5 trips on the trot, try and understand the passion and commitment we have. We deserve more, not just survival but progress and a team to excite us.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 11:43:31 GMT
Anything’s possible I guess but I can’t see Coates putting up with that. I think it’s more likely we have no succession plan whatsoever and we’re just blindly pressing on and hoping for the best. Oh Coates has a succession plan in his little blue book alright. However the first ten names are all Mark!
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 15, 2017 11:44:29 GMT
Did you actually report him for that? You'll never know I'm heartbroken
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 15, 2017 11:45:12 GMT
Do any of you really think that he's going to come out and slate Hughes? Fuck me, some of you have absolutely no idea when it comes to running a club. Once again I'm gobsmacked by some of the comments that have been made on here. Get a fucking grip and support the club. We don't own the club,so let them run it and get behind them. We all need to stand together like we used to. 'We'll be with you' my arse!
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 11:47:09 GMT
Do any of you really think that he's going to come out and slate Hughes? Fuck me, some of you have absolutely no idea when it comes to running a club. Once again I'm gobsmacked by some of the comments that have been made on here. Get a fucking grip and support the club. We don't own the club,so let them run it and get behind them. We all need to stand together like we used to. 'We'll be with you' my arse! I don't want to be with your arse, that's a job for Roberto Mancini allegedly.
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 15, 2017 11:47:34 GMT
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Post by robrigo on Dec 15, 2017 11:52:00 GMT
I posted the other day there is a cancer spreading through our club and it certainly is. I’ve seen posts calling our chairman a senile old goat etc etc. The rest of the football world will just watch us implode if this carries on. This is becoming a real danger as unrest continues to unravel. Saturdays game is massive. We simply have to win. I’m grateful to the board for the last ten years and to Peter Coates.
However I don’t agree with his comments about fuss. There’s plenty to be fussed about. No premier league for a club like Stoke will simply be a disaster.
Saturday is a watershed moment. Let’s hope we come through it.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 15, 2017 11:54:22 GMT
I posted the other day there is a cancer spreading through our club and it certainly is. I’ve seen posts calling our chairman a senile old goat etc etc. The rest of the football world will just watch us implode if this carries on. This is becoming a real danger as unrest continues to unravel. Saturdays game is massive. We simply have to win. I’m grateful to the board for the last ten years and to Peter Coates. However I don’t agree with his comments about fuss. There’s plenty to be fussed about. No premier league for a club like Stoke will simply be a disaster. Saturday is a watershed moment. Let’s hope we come through it. We'll only come through it if we stand together. Some on here are incapable of that though.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 15, 2017 11:55:48 GMT
Do any of you really think that he's going to come out and slate Hughes? Fuck me, some of you have absolutely no idea when it comes to running a club. Once again I'm gobsmacked by some of the comments that have been made on here. Get a fucking grip and support the club. We don't own the club,so let them run it and get behind them. We all need to stand together like we used to. 'We'll be with you' my arse! I don't want to be with your arse, that's a job for Roberto Mancini allegedly. Great response 👍
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Post by SCFC92 on Dec 15, 2017 11:56:08 GMT
The only way the message is going to get through to the hierarchy is if we vote with our feet and voices, it will NOT look good for the 365 brand if the team they put in all of their campaign has a fan base outraged and vocally unimpressed with the management. Pathetic, I feel like the fans of Blackburn when Steve Kean wouldn't piss off! COATES GET THE MESSAGE! Totally wrong and negative....will only make things worse We are supporters and that’s what we should do. I understand the sentiment and of course I will be there cheering the lads on however I will be joining in a Hughes Out chant should one appear. The only thing that is wrong and negative, and currently making things worse is the complacency from the board of directors at our club, mixed with the obvious complete disregard for anything we as fans think. This WILL result in reduced attendances and WILL result in the club taking steps backwards. Our football and our performances over the last 18 months have declined at an alarming rate and we now sit with the lowest points total at this stage in any Premier League season. They need to look at the bigger picture not just what is filling their bastard pockets here and now. If the fans go, the club goes and therefore their little money mule that they spread across their adverts (Stoke City FC) will no longer be able to deliver. If Coates won't act we as fans need to act and force his hand, the club is beginning to stink and the board need to be careful because blame and vitriol will begin to not only be aimed at Hughes but at them This happened at the end of the Pulis era, people voted with their feet and WILL happen again. It isn't good to return to "15,000" die hard stoke fans, it looks shite and paints us as a tin pot club. There are plenty of better options out there, its nearly January, we need to act NOW! If not we will go down, that is my opinion, but as it stands we will not be a Premier League club this time next year.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 15, 2017 11:56:45 GMT
You could be right. But I'm leaning to taking those comments at face value and we if go for (say) three on Saturday, then even then he'll still have a job against West Brom. I guess it might come down to the reaction in the stands and the decision might ultinately be taken out of Peter's hands. I always find it quite funny how people take certain comments at face value, because it matches up their opinion to do so, then other comments are forthrightly declared as an absolute crock of shit because they don't match their opinion. I have no idea what Peter Coates is thinking but I'd bet the entire contents of my bank account that he's not happy with how things are going and that Mark Hughes knows that he's not happy at how things are going. What on earth are you wittering on about now Dave? The post I made has clearly got nothing to do with MY opinion on Hughes. I'd bet the entire contents of my bank account on your last statement too, as I'm sure EVERY other person would do so, which with the greatest of respect, renders it to be a pretty pointless comment.
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Post by daveuppercut on Dec 15, 2017 11:58:02 GMT
Oh dear.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 12:00:43 GMT
Oh dear. 🤣
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 15, 2017 12:04:26 GMT
Oh dear. 😆
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2017 12:07:50 GMT
I posted the other day there is a cancer spreading through our club and it certainly is. I’ve seen posts calling our chairman a senile old goat etc etc. The rest of the football world will just watch us implode if this carries on. This is becoming a real danger as unrest continues to unravel. Saturdays game is massive. We simply have to win. I’m grateful to the board for the last ten years and to Peter Coates. However I don’t agree with his comments about fuss. There’s plenty to be fussed about. No premier league for a club like Stoke will simply be a disaster. Saturday is a watershed moment. Let’s hope we come through it. We'll only come through it if we stand together. Some on here are incapable of that though. The biggest problem is the players don't even stand together let alone the support, players coming out we gave in at 2-0 is fuckin disgraceful not to say disrespectful to the club and fans who pay his wages then he is in the squad the following game FFS, bullshit like this coming from Coates will only inflame the situation.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2017 12:09:32 GMT
Oh dear. 🤣 Comical Coates in full on denial shocker !, this has happened before under his chairmanship that ended well not.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 15, 2017 12:13:44 GMT
We'll only come through it if we stand together. Some on here are incapable of that though. The biggest problem is the players don't even stand together let alone the support, players coming out we gave in at 2-0 is fuckin disgraceful not to say disrespectful to the club and fans who pay his wages then he is in the squad the following game FFS, bullshit like this coming from Coates will only inflame the situation. Let's just give up then mate.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 15, 2017 12:17:04 GMT
I always find it quite funny how people take certain comments at face value, because it matches up their opinion to do so, then other comments are forthrightly declared as an absolute crock of shit because they don't match their opinion. I have no idea what Peter Coates is thinking but I'd bet the entire contents of my bank account that he's not happy with how things are going and that Mark Hughes knows that he's not happy at how things are going. What on earth are you wittering on about now Dave? The post I made has clearly got nothing to do with MY opinion on Hughes. I'd bet the entire contents of my bank account on your last statement too, as I'm sure EVERY other person would do so, which with the greatest of respect, renders it to be a pretty pointless comment. I'm not wittering on about anything but if you'd bet the entire contents of your bank account that Hughes is clear, in no uncertain terms, that the Chairman is not happy with how things are going, then you are mistken in taking Coates' comments at face value aren't you? If you take his Coates comments at face value, then you accept that Hughes is under no pressure whatsoever, the Chairman doesn't know what all the fuss is about, and regardless of the results of the next two games, Hughes will be here well into the New Year and seemingly, because you'd bet the entire contents of your bank account that this isn't the case, you wouldn't take his comments at face value. AS for others, clearly they would do no such thing, hence the hysteria here about Coates being a head in the sand, complacent, deluded, senile, arrogant, old fool. Why would I think that your comments, about comments made by Peter Coates, would have something to do with your opinion on HUGHES? I'd have to be pretty thick to take that from your comments wouldn't I. Someone says something about Peter Coates and I understand it to be a reflection of their beliefs about Mark Hughes! Seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 12:24:28 GMT
What on earth are you wittering on about now Dave? The post I made has clearly got nothing to do with MY opinion on Hughes. I'd bet the entire contents of my bank account on your last statement too, as I'm sure EVERY other person would do so, which with the greatest of respect, renders it to be a pretty pointless comment. I'm not wittering on about anything but if you'd bet the entire contents of your bank account that Hughes is clear, in no uncertain terms, that the Chairman is not happy with how things are going, then you are mistken in taking Coates' comments at face value aren't you? If you take his Coates comments at face value, then you accept that Hughes is under no pressure whatsoever, the Chairman doesn't know what all the fuss is about, and regardless of the results of the next two games, Hughes will be here well into the New Year and seemingly, because you'd bet the entire contents of your bank account that this isn't the case, you wouldn't take his comments at face value. AS for others, clearly they would do no such thing, hence the hysteria here about Coates being a head in the sand, complacent, deluded, senile, arrogant, old fool. Why would I think that your comments, about comments made by Peter Coates, would have something to do with your opinion on HUGHES? I'd have to be pretty thick to take that from your comments wouldn't I. Someone says something about Peter Coates and I understand it to be a reflection of their beliefs about Mark Hughes! Seriously? Can't speak for others, but it is entirely possible to a) criticise the comments Coates has made and question whether he could have made a much better statement to get fans onside and pull us all together, whilst b) not believing that what he did say was the whole truth. They are, ultimately, two different things. What he said absolutely sounded like someone with their head in the sand, and he shouldn't have said what he did imho. That doesn't mean that I think what he said completely reflects what he, or the Board at large, actually think about the current situation. If he does believe what he said, then I think we can all agree that would be a worry.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 15, 2017 12:24:59 GMT
What on earth are you wittering on about now Dave? The post I made has clearly got nothing to do with MY opinion on Hughes. I'd bet the entire contents of my bank account on your last statement too, as I'm sure EVERY other person would do so, which with the greatest of respect, renders it to be a pretty pointless comment. I'm not wittering on about anything but if you'd bet the entire contents of your bank account that Hughes is clear, in no uncertain terms, that the Chairman is not happy with how things are going, then you are mistken in taking Coates' comments at face value aren't you? If you take his Coates comments at face value, then you accept that Hughes is under no pressure whatsoever, the Chairman doesn't know what all the fuss is about, and regardless of the results of the next two games, Hughes will be here well into the New Year and seemingly, because you'd bet the entire contents of your bank account that this isn't the case, you wouldn't take his comments at face value. AS for others, clearly they would do no such thing, hence the hysteria here about Coates being a head in the sand, complacent, deluded, senile, arrogant, old fool. Why would I think that your comments, about comments made by Peter Coates, would have something to do with your opinion on HUGHES? I'd have to be pretty thick to take that from your comments wouldn't I. Someone says something about Peter Coates and I understand it to be a reflection of their beliefs about Mark Hughes! Seriously? Absolute bollocks Dave. Coates could easily be unhappy with the situation but that doesn't then necessarily mean that he's about to sack him. As I said, I'm leaning towards taking his comments at face value and if we lose on Saturday then I think there's every likelihood that Hughes will still keep his job. And as for offering an opinion ... I didn't offer one on Coates in my post, so what else am I supposed to think you're mumbling on about? And even if I had, what I said wouldn't reinforce it one-way or another, it was simply an observation.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2017 12:34:00 GMT
The biggest problem is the players don't even stand together let alone the support, players coming out we gave in at 2-0 is fuckin disgraceful not to say disrespectful to the club and fans who pay his wages then he is in the squad the following game FFS, bullshit like this coming from Coates will only inflame the situation. Let's just give up then mate. Follow the players lead like ?
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 15, 2017 12:38:27 GMT
Let's just give up then mate. Follow the players lead like ? Absolutely. Fuck Stoke City and everyone involved with the club. The players are desperate to be relegated.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 15, 2017 12:42:07 GMT
He'll know what the fuss is about tomorrow at 4.50 if we lose. What an incredible thing to come out with, even if it is in an attempt to back the manager there's no need to come out of with shit we can see straight through. Everyone associated with the club are treating us like complete idiots.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 12:44:07 GMT
Do any of you really think that he's going to come out and slate Hughes? Fuck me, some of you have absolutely no idea when it comes to running a club. Once again I'm gobsmacked by some of the comments that have been made on here. Get a fucking grip and support the club. We don't own the club,so let them run it and get behind them. We all need to stand together like we used to. 'We'll be with you' my arse! Nobody expects him to slate Hughes in public. It’s just a bizarre comment to make, if you can’t see that then I don’t know what to say.
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