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Post by crownmeking on Dec 10, 2017 13:35:50 GMT
Then, I agree with you. The whole thing yesterday was a disgrace. Do you think Hughes has resigned? I really do hope so mate for everyone’s sake because otherwise it’s going to turn increasingly toxic I have been a big supporter of Hughes, but with a heavy heart, I have to agree with you, he needs to go.
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 10, 2017 13:48:14 GMT
It's not very hard to understand is it?
He's just not very good.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 10, 2017 13:54:11 GMT
I aren’t just saying this out of anger, Wollscheid was better. On the evidence so far I have to agree.
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Post by Widget123 on Dec 10, 2017 13:57:40 GMT
Whilst I completely agree that it was insensitive, sadly you're mistaken about the rules on social media in contracts, its a very common thing these days and if Stoke don't have any social media guidelines in their employee contracts then I'd be very very surprised. Every company (bluechip/large/small/charity/other) I've worked with over the last 5 years providing media training has very specific social media responsibility clauses in their employee contracts and its a breach of those clauses often resulting in formal warnings for minor breaches and a possible P45 for breaking them in a very serious manner. Oh, yes, I know a lot of business have rules regarding social media, but you cannot ban an employee from using it, that would be stopping free speech. I know lots of people (me included) use the caveat "All views here are my own". I see lots of footballers commenting on social media, before and after games. I just think Wimmer was insensitive, nothing more. Human rights don't come into it - if a person signs a contract they agree to all the terms therein. Whilst a contract can ban a person from social media usage during the working hours of the contract, it can also restrict the usage to defend the businesses interests. The only defence against that is to NOT sign the contract. The usage of a caveat doesn't prevent the contracts clauses from being invoked - whilst you are declaring a personal opinion you are still bound by the clauses in your output. Modern contracts are very far reaching, I've seen contracts in the technology sector which allow the company an interest in "any software/application developed by the employee during the duration of the employment, even in "personal" hours". You could call that "modern slavery" but its a fact of employment these days and you have to read any employment contract you sign very carefully. Insensitive or not Wimmer probably broke the terms of his employment with those actions on twitter and will probably be reprimanded for them.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 10, 2017 14:01:10 GMT
nothing wrong with him posting on social Media, or liking spurs or having mates there.
But he goes around like they are his team and he's only on loan at stoke.
We are his team, we pay his wages, we suffer when he plays shit
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 10, 2017 14:17:42 GMT
What a clammy, slightly stubbly flap.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 10, 2017 14:22:26 GMT
No mention of the fans, and posts a picture of him smiling. Ridiculous Sums up the modern footballer completely and to top it all off, he's absolutely wank as well.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 10, 2017 14:23:09 GMT
Who cares what anybody has to say on social media?
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 10, 2017 14:27:39 GMT
Social media, the only thing that makes a bell end look a bigger bell end than the bell end really is!
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Post by crownmeking on Dec 10, 2017 14:33:36 GMT
Oh, yes, I know a lot of business have rules regarding social media, but you cannot ban an employee from using it, that would be stopping free speech. I know lots of people (me included) use the caveat "All views here are my own". I see lots of footballers commenting on social media, before and after games. I just think Wimmer was insensitive, nothing more. Human rights don't come into it - if a person signs a contract they agree to all the terms therein. Whilst a contract can ban a person from social media usage during the working hours of the contract, it can also restrict the usage to defend the businesses interests. The only defence against that is to NOT sign the contract. The usage of a caveat doesn't prevent the contracts clauses from being invoked - whilst you are declaring a personal opinion you are still bound by the clauses in your output. Modern contracts are very far reaching, I've seen contracts in the technology sector which allow the company an interest in "any software/application developed by the employee during the duration of the employment, even in "personal" hours". You could call that "modern slavery" but its a fact of employment these days and you have to read any employment contract you sign very carefully. Insensitive or not Wimmer probably broke the terms of his employment with those actions on twitter and will probably be reprimanded for them. If it was accepted within the terms of a contract not to use social media during work hours, that is a different matter. It makes sense that tech firms would ask for the terms of a contract to include not giving out sensitive information on social media or anywhere else. I highly doubt footballers have anything in their contracts that would not allow them to use social media, they are persons of interest and need to be able to promote themselves. It is probably more likely that it is agreed in a contract that the employee shall not say or do anything that brings the employer into disrepute. What Wimmer did, would not constitute that, in my opinion. Also, if a contact breaches ones Human rights, it would probably be deemed void, even if it was agreed and signed.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 10, 2017 14:42:02 GMT
Its wrong on so many levels
He was hardly even a Spurs player so why does he claim to be one? We just got tonked by them He played shit as usual We wasted 18M on the useless fucker
Stoke are a bloody laughing stock at the moment and Wimmer is a part of that.
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Post by PotterEd on Dec 10, 2017 14:45:16 GMT
Completely idiotic and utterly disgraceful. The club he plays for and that pays his wages have just been humiliated and he has the gall to post photos of his love-in with players who have out-played, out-worked and out-fought him all afternoon. I don't expect players to care as much as the fans because, to be fair, they are just employees. But they need to have an ounce of awareness of the fact that fans do care and do want to see that players who play for Stoke actually want to win and are disappointed when they lose. I don't think it matters here that he's utter dogshit as a player - it would piss me of regardless of which player it was. Agree with most of that mate. For me though, I've seen many players over the years return to their old clubs, and to be honest there might well have been a hug or two going on after the game. The difference being, this usually followed 90 minutes of kicking the shit out of each other after a ding dong battle? This idiot had a shocker, again, during what turned out to be another mauling? I mean, really, what is he fucking point anymore? Yeah I agree to be fair. I’m angry with myself that I’m angry about this. Just really fed up of it all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 15:14:52 GMT
We swapped Wollscheid for this charlatan?
At least when mental Phil had a breakdown you knew he had a bit of fire in his belly.
What has 18M brought us with this clown?
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Post by jarhead on Dec 10, 2017 15:16:42 GMT
Fuckin disgrace and sums this prick up.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 10, 2017 15:17:34 GMT
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Post by liamo on Dec 10, 2017 15:22:36 GMT
No conflicts of interests there at all..
How much effort do you put in if you don't really give a toss about your new club and like posts about losing to your old club?
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Post by mrred on Dec 10, 2017 15:24:18 GMT
Worst thing about social media is that every month breathing fucking idiot has a platform. It's quite apparent Kev isn't the sharpest tool in the box, nor does he understand how to be tactile with words, or when best to keep your fucking mouth shut. Nor is he an £18m footballer.
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Post by right on Dec 10, 2017 15:25:33 GMT
Have no problem with him getting along nicely with Spurs players and hugging them the day of the game. It's a massive problem that he is on social media posting and liking these things. It really is indicative of a larger issue. He is a Stokie. Come on now
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Post by chamberlain on Dec 10, 2017 15:28:57 GMT
We swapped Wollscheid for this charlatan? At least when mental Phil had a breakdown you knew he had a bit of fire in his belly. What has 18M brought us with this clown? As you know I wasn’t Wollscheid s biggest fan but I fear your right
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 10, 2017 15:37:18 GMT
So that's Coates, Hughes and Wimmer I'll be booing at Burnley.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 15:42:45 GMT
We swapped Wollscheid for this charlatan? At least when mental Phil had a breakdown you knew he had a bit of fire in his belly. What has 18M brought us with this clown? As you know I wasn’t Wollscheid s biggest fan but I fear your right He's a better player. A far better defender and even with a reported ropey character it seems he's got more about him on that front than Wimmer. Wimmer beats him by pace, but only just.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 15:45:59 GMT
Poor, poor signing. Sums Stoke up at this moment in time!
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Post by metalhead on Dec 10, 2017 15:50:08 GMT
As you know I wasn’t Wollscheid s biggest fan but I fear your right He's a better player. A far better defender and even with a reported ropey character it seems he's got more about him on that front than Wimmer. Wimmer beats him by pace, but only just. I would give anything for Wolly back.... Well, not anything, but I'd swap Kevin Wimmer for him.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 10, 2017 15:52:49 GMT
He's a better player. A far better defender and even with a reported ropey character it seems he's got more about him on that front than Wimmer. Wimmer beats him by pace, but only just. I would give anything for Wolly back.... Well, not anything, but I'd swap Kevin Wimmer for him. Wolfy or Wimper who signs these wasters ?
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Post by rambo61 on Dec 10, 2017 16:22:46 GMT
How is the fucker not being disaplined by the club?? He's basically liking the fact that we rolled over for his mates!!!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 10, 2017 16:27:49 GMT
I thought he was shit at Spurs. I thought he was shit when we signed. I know that he's shit now I've watched him in the flesh.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 10, 2017 17:09:26 GMT
Remember when we sent Agent Sonko out of loan to help us out?
It looks like a case of Agent Wimmer being sent out Daniel Levy to do one over on us, as if the 18M in his pocket isnt enough
Come back soon BMI
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Post by alster on Dec 10, 2017 17:17:09 GMT
I thought he was shit at Spurs. I thought he was shit when we signed. I know that he's shit now I've watched him in the flesh. I knew very little about him but was very confused after watching his debut/home debut (not sure but it was the first time I'd seen him in the flesh) vs Man Utd I came away from the ground thinking he was slow, dozy and shit in the air only to come on here to see folk raving about him. Watching him since I've confirmed my initial impression that he's slow dozy and shit in the air, what the fuck is he actually good at?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 10, 2017 17:18:18 GMT
I thought he was shit at Spurs. I thought he was shit when we signed. I know that he's shit now I've watched him in the flesh. I knew very little about him but was very confused after watching his debut/home debut (not sure but it was the first time i'd seen him in the flesh) vs Man Utd I came away from the ground thinking he was slow, dozy and shit in the air only to come on here to see folk raving about him. Watching him since I've confirmed my initial impression that he slow dozy and shit in the air, what the fuck is he actually good at? Making a dick of himself on social media, as it happens.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 10, 2017 17:25:26 GMT
Nothing in it.
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