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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 9, 2017 19:28:56 GMT
Maybe we could buy their right back?
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Dec 9, 2017 19:33:34 GMT
At this moment in time, YES. They are so many points in front of us, it's embarrassing
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Post by professorplump on Dec 9, 2017 19:34:55 GMT
No. They haven't got a better squad but they are better organised and have a simple but effective game plan.
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Post by eastyorksexile on Dec 9, 2017 19:38:21 GMT
Squad don’t matter, it’s the guy in charge that does and Dyche appears to be way ahead of Hughes at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 19:40:05 GMT
No they just don't do charity matches and stick to a shape and system that suits what they have.
In short they play to their potential instead of being constant disappointments like ours.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Dec 9, 2017 19:41:20 GMT
No they do not have a better squad just a manager who gets the best out of a hardworking set of grafters. Team spirit & fight something which i am afraid we very much lack over to you Mr Coates sort your management out before its to late.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 9, 2017 19:41:21 GMT
They all seem to try and know their jobs that's a big advantage and 5 or 6 would be in our team at the minute easy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 19:41:22 GMT
Burnley are currently demonstrating how important the manager is. The right manager can be more important than the players.
I'd take Dyche over Hughes.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 9, 2017 19:43:15 GMT
We have far better individuals... Burnley play far better as a team.
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Post by bigvern on Dec 9, 2017 19:47:23 GMT
Do Burnley.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Dec 9, 2017 19:48:39 GMT
At the moment its like comparing champagne to meths
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Dec 9, 2017 19:48:50 GMT
They have a more organised squad than we do.
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Post by robstokie on Dec 9, 2017 19:49:55 GMT
On paper, we are better. Management, organisation and fight on the other hand...
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Post by lancyclaret on Dec 12, 2017 15:58:38 GMT
Fans of all PL teams - perhaps with the exception of Huddersfield - think they have a better squad of players than Burnley. Even Brighton's and Newcastle's.
Last year, Middlesbro fans were convinced Karanka had built a better squad than Dyche.
Most Burnley fans find it amusing when opposition fans are surprised our so-called "championship standard" players can give all opponents, including Man City, a good game.
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Post by thanksjon on Dec 12, 2017 16:03:56 GMT
Burnley's biggest plus is that they seem to be able to replace players who are injured or suspended with players who are just as good.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Dec 12, 2017 16:05:34 GMT
I don't think I'd take one of their players. Which shows how much a terrible job Hughes is doing at the moment
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Post by thegift on Dec 12, 2017 16:12:24 GMT
I don't think I'd take one of their players. Which shows how much a terrible job Hughes is doing at the moment This is pretty much it summed up in a nutshell.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 12, 2017 16:25:11 GMT
Well, if our players are so superior we should be able to play 4-4-2 or any other attacking formation and just outplay them. I'm far from convinced that they are, with the exception of Shaqiri.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 12, 2017 16:47:22 GMT
Well, if our players are so superior we should be able to play 4-4-2 or any other attacking formation and just outplay them. I'm far from convinced that they are, with the exception of Shaqiri. Yeah that statement is pure arrogance based on no evidence whatsoever. They've got five or six who would piss into our squad and a fair few of those into our first team. Yet Scholes and Cartwright sleep soundly at night, knowing their employment is not in the slightest doubt.
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Post by stillgame4it on Dec 12, 2017 16:52:12 GMT
They certainly have a manager who is more enthusiastic and creative at the moment. Frustrating thing is that Hughes probably has better football experience + knowledge (in the sport) than Dyche but cannot seem to harness it for some reason?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 16:54:01 GMT
No they don't. As stated above, not one of their squad gets into our team. Shows both how good a job Dyche is doing at keeping them organised and getting results, and how poor a job Hughes is doing here.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 12, 2017 16:56:46 GMT
I don't think I'd take one of their players. Which shows how much a terrible job Hughes is doing at the moment If I knew that he didn't really die on our pitch that afternoon, I'd take Jack Cork in our midfield and I'd probably take Ben Mee to partner Ryan. Beyond that, they really are a team that is greater than the sum of its parts and they can't keep being as lucky as they are regardless of how well organised they are. The one thing that they do have over us (and no doubt many others) is that every single person in the squad knows exactly what their role in the team is.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 12, 2017 17:00:19 GMT
I don't think I'd take one of their players. Which shows how much a terrible job Hughes is doing at the moment If I knew that he didn't really die on our pitch that afternoon, I'd take Jack Cork in our midfield and I'd probably take Ben Mee to partner Ryan. Beyond that, they really are a team that is greater than the sum of its parts and they can't keep being as lucky as they are regardless of how well organised they are. The one thing that they do have over us (and no doubt many others) is that every single person in the squad knows exactly what their role in the team is. Heaton Pope Tarkowski Mee Brady Hendrick Defour Wood All in with a very good shout of getting in our squad.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 12, 2017 17:03:44 GMT
If I knew that he didn't really die on our pitch that afternoon, I'd take Jack Cork in our midfield and I'd probably take Ben Mee to partner Ryan. Beyond that, they really are a team that is greater than the sum of its parts and they can't keep being as lucky as they are regardless of how well organised they are. The one thing that they do have over us (and no doubt many others) is that every single person in the squad knows exactly what their role in the team is. Heaton Pope Tarkowski Brady Hendrick Defour Wood All in with a very good shout of getting in our squad. Squad maybe but not team. I wouldn't take Heaton over Butland and it is unrealistic to expect him to be in the squad as a no2. I don't rate Brady but Burnley fans love him, Hendrick is crap, Defour is better this season than he was last but he's less mobile than Charlie Adam (they build the team to cater for that though) and I haven't really seen enough of Wood to comment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 17:05:54 GMT
I don't think I'd take one of their players. Which shows how much a terrible job Hughes is doing at the moment I don't have a clue who their left back is but he simply has to be better than Eric Pieters.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 12, 2017 17:07:04 GMT
If I knew that he didn't really die on our pitch that afternoon, I'd take Jack Cork in our midfield and I'd probably take Ben Mee to partner Ryan. Beyond that, they really are a team that is greater than the sum of its parts and they can't keep being as lucky as they are regardless of how well organised they are. The one thing that they do have over us (and no doubt many others) is that every single person in the squad knows exactly what their role in the team is. Heaton Pope Tarkowski Mee Brady Hendrick Defour Wood All in with a very good shout of getting in our squad. Until you listed them, i couldn't have told you one player that starts for Burnley. Looking at that list i think i know 4 of them. That shows a) how out of touch i am with some other teams, and b) how much they must have flown under the radar so far as i don't know half the buggers.
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Post by lordb on Dec 12, 2017 17:10:46 GMT
In my view the 3 promoted sides have lesser squads. Other than that there is no difference between the bottom 9,or very little. Leicester are better maybe Southampton The rest arnt Table tells a different story though
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Post by Gods on Dec 12, 2017 17:11:18 GMT
Well, if our players are so superior we should be able to play 4-4-2 or any other attacking formation and just outplay them. I'm far from convinced that they are, with the exception of Shaqiri. Agreed, I don't think you could put a sliver of paper between the 2 squads, outside the Big 6 it's all about getting marginal gains wherever and however you can. What they have done brilliantly is to convert a pretty poor record of scoring less than a goal a game on average over 16 matches in to an eye watering 28 points! They rarely 'waste' any goals in defeat and cling on to 1-0 leads like grim death! They are a dour, taciturn, miserable lot, but you can't say it's not working.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 12, 2017 17:14:45 GMT
It's very hard to say, isn't it?
Defensive players tend to really shine in well-drilled, well-protected Pulis/Dyche set-ups where the system is king.
Would players like Mee and Tarkowski shine in our set-up? Who knows?
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Post by alster on Dec 12, 2017 17:22:48 GMT
It's very hard to say, isn't it? Defensive players tend to really shine in well-drilled, well-protected Pulis/Dyche set-ups where the system is king. Would players like Mee and Tarkowski shine in our set-up? Who knows? Easy answer no they wouldn't all the fuss about Keane last season the moment he goes to a team with more ambition he's dead ordinary.
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