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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 10:55:53 GMT
5 out of the bottom 6 gone already.
We are now the lowest placed team not to swing the axe...
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 20, 2017 11:03:05 GMT
5 out of the bottom 6 gone already. We are now the lowest placed team not to swing the axe... Same as last season at one point if I remember rightly. |
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Post by fca47 on Nov 20, 2017 11:07:59 GMT
Time to act, if we lose tonight,all the decent alternatives we be gone otherwise.
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Post by mrred on Nov 20, 2017 11:13:12 GMT
Time to act, if we lose tonight,all the decent alternatives we be gone otherwise. We missed the boat massively in the summer, nevermind now. |
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Post by RF10 on Nov 20, 2017 11:35:30 GMT
Time to act, if we lose tonight,all the decent alternatives we be gone otherwise. And if we win to go 10th? |
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 20, 2017 11:38:59 GMT
Turn of the year is decision time for me... if you're going to get somebody in, give them a transfer window and half a season to try to turn things around. We're hardly terrible but clearly not doing as well as we should. We have some very winnable games coming up, 6 of the next 8 should yield at least 3 wins. Anything less is a failure and I think it's time to go (and i've been a Hughes supporter until this point - still am if he can get us comfortable by New Year).
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Post by metalhead on Nov 20, 2017 11:39:55 GMT
Big game for Sparky tonight I think, although Coates has never been one to sack mid-season anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 11:41:41 GMT
Everton have dug themselves into a right hole.
WBA could take a number of people like Big Sam, Pardew or O'Neill doubt they would tempt Buck Rogers back.
We on the other hand will gamble on Hughes as it's the cheap option then claim it was brilliant management if we get away with it.
I'd jump now and take Koeman his closer affinity to foreign players may well suit what we have and he may well be the right man to bring us back up if the worst happens. That is where I think we would lose Hughes he would walk on us if we go down.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Nov 20, 2017 12:10:19 GMT
If we went down, Hughes would be sacked, never mind walk, although the latter action would at least save us money. I don't get where people think a manager would wave goodbye to a payoff.
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Post by Will_75 on Nov 20, 2017 12:12:27 GMT
Coates will not sack Hughes. If and when he goes it will be by mutual consent and in the closed season.
The board's view will be that we are in no danger of relegation, and that game for game, we are ahead of where of where we were last season. All of which are true, regardless of any other factors.
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Post by Billy the kid on Nov 20, 2017 12:17:59 GMT
Coates will not sack Hughes. If and when he goes it will be by mutual consent and in the closed season. The board's view will be that we are in no danger of relegation, and that game for game, we are ahead of where of where we were last season. All of which are true, regardless of any other factors. I think it is wishful thinking on some counts. If you look around at the whole managerial merry go round thing, it seems to be mostly a handful of managers managing a handful of teams all between 12th and the bottom of the table. Around this time of year those teams that have had particularly bad starts to the season have pulled the trigger, and appointed one from the small pool of managers. The average term in the hot seat seems to be around 2 years and then off to another gig to achieve the same thing "staying in the Premier League!". How many more clubs do Big Sam, Pardew, TP etc have to chalk up before they have managed 10 different bottom half teams? |
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Nov 20, 2017 12:23:58 GMT
5 out of the bottom 6 gone already. We are now the lowest placed team not to swing the axe... Hughes should have been sacked at the end of the season, results have been shit for far to long and sooner or later it will bite us on the arse. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 12:26:43 GMT
Coates will not sack Hughes. If and when he goes it will be by mutual consent and in the closed season. The board's view will be that we are in no danger of relegation, and that game for game, we are ahead of where of where we were last season. All of which are true, regardless of any other factors. But last season was poor so how poor does it have to get before someone at the club decides that what we need is year on year improvement not sliding backwards. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 20, 2017 12:31:47 GMT
Time to act, if we lose tonight,all the decent alternatives we be gone otherwise. And if we win to go 10th? Then some more major cracks will be papered over? |
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Post by rawli on Nov 20, 2017 12:41:07 GMT
If he went down, Hughes would be sacked, never mind walk, although the latter action would at least save us money. I don't get where people think a manager would wave goodbye to a payoff. Managers never walk. Forget that one. |
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Post by chrisparker on Nov 20, 2017 13:00:11 GMT
Everton have dug themselves into a right hole. WBA could take a number of people like Big Sam, Pardew or O'Neill doubt they would tempt Buck Rogers back. We on the other hand will gamble on Hughes as it's the cheap option then claim it was brilliant management if we get away with it. I'd jump now and take Koeman his closer affinity to foreign players may well suit what we have and he may well be the right man to bring us back up if the worst happens. That is where I think we would lose Hughes he would walk on us if we go down. Koeman will not accept a step down from Everton and Southampton. He will be setting his eyes on one of the Champions league clubs. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 13:04:53 GMT
Everton have dug themselves into a right hole. WBA could take a number of people like Big Sam, Pardew or O'Neill doubt they would tempt Buck Rogers back. We on the other hand will gamble on Hughes as it's the cheap option then claim it was brilliant management if we get away with it. I'd jump now and take Koeman his closer affinity to foreign players may well suit what we have and he may well be the right man to bring us back up if the worst happens. That is where I think we would lose Hughes he would walk on us if we go down. Koeman will not accept a step down from Everton and Southampton. He will be setting his eyes on one of the Champions league clubs. Normally I'd agree however, we may be the road to redemption, stepping stone that he needs. If he took us to a Europa League spot he would be No1 in line for the next big club. at the moment he is slightly tarnished and as such would be lucky to get anything higher than us imo. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 20, 2017 13:17:05 GMT
And if we win to go 10th? Then some more major cracks will be papered over? Or there aren't as many cracks as people want to make out in the first place? |
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Post by Will_75 on Nov 20, 2017 13:32:15 GMT
Coates will not sack Hughes. If and when he goes it will be by mutual consent and in the closed season. The board's view will be that we are in no danger of relegation, and that game for game, we are ahead of where of where we were last season. All of which are true, regardless of any other factors. But last season was poor so how poor does it have to get before someone at the club decides that what we need is year on year improvement not sliding backwards. For one season out of 10 in the top flight we have failed to improve on our previous position, and then only by two points. We are improving on that already this season, and in the context of an overall trend of 15 years of building and growing year on year, one retrograde step does not equate to sliding backwards. And all of this on a relative shoestring, with a relatively young british manager, who is in his own words, still learning his trade. The above is Peter Coates nirvana - anyone who thinks anything is going to change any time soon is deluded. You may chose not to see it, but lobbying for anything else is pissing into the wind. |
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Post by Bombus on Nov 20, 2017 13:35:38 GMT
25% of the managers sacked 12 games in. Crazy.
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Post by duckling on Nov 20, 2017 14:02:46 GMT
25% of the managers sacked 12 games in. Crazy. It absolutely is. You can bring in new managers as many times as you want a season, but you can't bring in new players aside from the designated months. It seems a bit lopsided. A "transfer window" for managers would be interesting. |
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 20, 2017 14:13:46 GMT
Time to act, if we lose tonight,all the decent alternatives we be gone otherwise. What decent alternatives? Pardew, Allardyce?? the usual crap cant think of any really. Dyche god hes has boring as Pulis. |
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Post by sportsman on Nov 20, 2017 14:25:42 GMT
Big game for Sparky tonight I think, although Coates has never been one to sack mid-season anyway. I don't think it is myself. Hughes is going nowhere. Clubs are looking a bit daft at the moment, sacking managers all over the place and no real improvement. The premier league really is shit now. If Klopp loses two games on the bounce he's under threat, same with chelsea. It really is shit. |
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Post by sportsman on Nov 20, 2017 14:27:25 GMT
And if we win to go 10th? Then some more major cracks will be papered over? Every club bar man city have cracks. |
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Post by Will_75 on Nov 20, 2017 14:30:07 GMT
Then some more major cracks will be papered over? Every club bar man city have cracks. And they shipped two at home against us! Pep out! |
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Post by thegift on Nov 20, 2017 14:30:50 GMT
If we lose tonight time to fuck him off once and for all and get big sam in to steady the ship
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Post by rawli on Nov 20, 2017 14:31:08 GMT
Then some more major cracks will be papered over? Every club bar man city have cracks. All the women's teams have them. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 20, 2017 14:38:06 GMT
Time to act, if we lose tonight,all the decent alternatives we be gone otherwise. So a good time to go shopping is when everyone else has decided to go shopping? And as to decent alternatives...who exactly? Given there's a bunch of desperate clubs hovering up the dull as dishwater usual suspects I'm REALLY happy for Hughes to stay. |
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Post by onepara on Nov 20, 2017 14:40:22 GMT
Coates will not sack Hughes. If and when he goes it will be by mutual consent and in the closed season. The board's view will be that we are in no danger of relegation, and that game for game, we are ahead of where of where we were last season. All of which are true, regardless of any other factors. But last season was poor so how poor does it have to get before someone at the club decides that what we need is year on year improvement not sliding backwards. But the Board don't want year on year improvement, as that would cost them more money for better players to keep improving. They seem quite happy to leave things as they are. It's the cheapest option, as they've already stated that it's cheaper to get loan players in than sign them. That's their mind-set. |
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Post by duckling on Nov 20, 2017 14:43:38 GMT
If we lose tonight time to fuck him off once and for all and get big sam in to steady the ship Allardyce turned down Leicester and Crystal Palace already. Why would Stoke be different? How many threads and posts have there been on realistic replacements for Hughes? And there is no consensus on a realistic replacement that is clearly better. That's the problem. This is my 1000th post on this board. I'm 1% of the way toward matching bayernoatcake  |
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