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Post by spitthedog on Mar 2, 2018 11:57:34 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Mar 2, 2018 11:58:01 GMT
Let's not forget the problems Jewish Labour MPs have had from certain factions of their own party (the creeping cancer of Momentum).
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 2, 2018 12:07:42 GMT
20 Black and Ethnic Minority MPs received 41% of all abusive tweets sent to MPs in the first 6 months of 2017. Out of 630 MPs
Abbott received 31% of ALL abusive tweets sent to MPs (45% in run up to the General Election)
Theresa May doesn't even figure in the top 10
The groups who received by far the most abuse were the Black MPs and SNP female MPs
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 2, 2018 12:09:57 GMT
It’s very interesting how gaffe prone idiot Boris Johnson, whose lack of grasp of his brief and downright blundering incompetence, could have seen British citizen in Iran lose her liberty permanently (or even worse) recently is treated on these pages compared to Abbot isn’t it? Yeah there’s nothing in her being black and a woman whatsoever. Not for me, there isn't, Sheik. My ex was black(still is, saw her up Hanley recently! 😁). I just think she's fucking awful (Abbott, not my ex).
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 2, 2018 12:10:26 GMT
No worries. Jacob Rees-Mogg will lead the Tories well into the 2030s long after Ms Abbott has retired never having served as Home Secretary (thank Christ). ?!?!?!?!?!?!? Yes, great........ the guy who gives after dinner speeches for groups who campaign for Stephen Lawrence's mother to be deported.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 2, 2018 12:15:21 GMT
It's hard to 'show you' conversations I've had but I know plenty of Tories who want her out as she's out of her depth, myself included.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 2, 2018 12:27:46 GMT
She has the biggest majority in the commons And the biggest ego, mouth, head and arse. She literally has no ego compared with Boris Johnson
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 2, 2018 12:29:35 GMT
I think to have such a large majority after 31 years is pretty incredible. For all her failings, and she does have quite a few, she must be doing something right for her constituents. I hope that logic applies to hated Tories with large majorities, too. Absolutely, Jeremy Hunt beig one that immediately springs to mind. Worst Health Minister ever but loved by his constituents it seems. He must be doing something very right in his local area
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 2, 2018 12:34:06 GMT
It’s very interesting how gaffe prone idiot Boris Johnson, whose lack of grasp of his brief and downright blundering incompetence, could have seen British citizen in Iran lose her liberty permanently (or even worse) recently is treated on these pages compared to Abbot isn’t it? Yeah there’s nothing in her being black and a woman whatsoever. Not for me, there isn't, Sheik. My ex was black(still is, saw her up Hanley recently! 😁). I just think she's fucking awful (Abbott, not my ex). That's a perfectly reasonable stance, trick, however if you'll pardon the pun a lot of it comes from a much darker place
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Post by thevoid on Mar 2, 2018 12:34:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 12:58:54 GMT
"For example, yesterday Rees-Mogg retweeted a Sun article which printed fictitious savings the UK would benefit from exiting Customs Union. They were forced to withdraw it and apologise"
I cant find the retraction.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 2, 2018 13:10:18 GMT
It's hard to 'show you' conversations I've had but I know plenty of Tories who want her out as she's out of her depth, myself included. that's a bit different from abuse which is regularly based on physical features and personal.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 2, 2018 13:16:14 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Mar 2, 2018 13:26:11 GMT
It's hard to 'show you' conversations I've had but I know plenty of Tories who want her out as she's out of her depth, myself included. that's a bit different from abuse which is regularly based on physical features and personal. You want to hear me on Gemma Collins and James Corden- there shouldn't be a seperate rule for 'Jabbott' just because she's 'of colour' as surely that's not treating everyone the same, which I thought the left were striving for? Not that she's covered herself in glory herself regarding comments on race... I don't like Stormzy's music. There's no racial subtext in that, I just think the stuff he produces is bilge that I've forgotten about after 20 minutes let alone 20 years. The fact that he's black is immaterial. It's the left who seem to bring everything back to race, can we not just call a fool a fool regardless of colour?
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Post by felonious on Mar 2, 2018 13:35:37 GMT
that's a bit different from abuse which is regularly based on physical features and personal. You want to hear me on Gemma Collins and James Corden- there shouldn't be a seperate rule for 'Jabbott' just because she's 'of colour' as surely that's not treating everyone the same, which I thought the left were striving for? Not that she's covered herself in glory herself regarding comments on race... I don't like Stormzy's music. There's no racial subtext in that, I just think the stuff he produces is bilge that I've forgotten about after 20 minutes let alone 20 years. The fact that he's black is immaterial. It's the left who seem to bring everything back to race, can we not just call a fool a fool regardless of colour? The two biggest embarrassments to their parties currently are Abbott and Johnson, black and white united by gaffs. If only his surname had been Costello
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 13:51:44 GMT
Are you referring to the 'worst Health Minister ever' who inherited the most expensive NHS service we've ever had after the biggest economic crash in living memory?
Is that the same NHS service that Labour spent more and more on despite increasing the debt and deficit during a boom?
Is that the same NHS service that Hunt had to keep going despite Labour not saving a fucking penny to help ease the aftermath of the crash?
You're having a fucking laugh.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 2, 2018 14:43:41 GMT
that's a bit different from abuse which is regularly based on physical features and personal. You want to hear me on Gemma Collins and James Corden- there shouldn't be a seperate rule for 'Jabbott' just because she's 'of colour' as surely that's not treating everyone the same, which I thought the left were striving for? Not that she's covered herself in glory herself regarding comments on race... I don't like Stormzy's music. There's no racial subtext in that, I just think the stuff he produces is bilge that I've forgotten about after 20 minutes let alone 20 years. The fact that he's black is immaterial. It's the left who seem to bring everything back to race, can we not just call a fool a fool regardless of colour? Pot calling the kettle black , they have to turn the subject to highlight the colour of their skin even though they must realise what a racist thick bigot she is, deflect is the left wing tactic of preference, you are spot on about stormzy as well his music is feckin shit.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 2, 2018 14:53:49 GMT
Not for me, there isn't, Sheik. My ex was black(still is, saw her up Hanley recently! 😁). I just think she's fucking awful (Abbott, not my ex). That's a perfectly reasonable stance, trick, however if you'll pardon the pun a lot of it comes from a much darker place Abbott's arse hole you mean, have you heard some of the racist comments she has made against people of white colour ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 15:14:44 GMT
Although the Sun made a complete hash of that poster, the principles of it are correct. JRM has many times over the last few months indicated that by leaving the CU, food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper, thus giving the poorest in society a much needed boost.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 2, 2018 15:17:44 GMT
that's a bit different from abuse which is regularly based on physical features and personal. You want to hear me on Gemma Collins and James Corden- there shouldn't be a seperate rule for 'Jabbott' just because she's 'of colour' as surely that's not treating everyone the same, which I thought the left were striving for? Not that she's covered herself in glory herself regarding comments on race... I don't like Stormzy's music. There's no racial subtext in that, I just think the stuff he produces is bilge that I've forgotten about after 20 minutes let alone 20 years. The fact that he's black is immaterial. It's the left who seem to bring everything back to race, can we not just call a fool a fool regardless of colour? Are you seriously suggesting the thousands who send her tweets calling her 'black bitch' etc are on the left side of the political spectrum? I repeat.....look at the facts....not just what's goin on inside your own head and please feel free to offer an explanation and convince me that all that abuse came from the left. 20 Black and Ethnic Minority MPs received 41% of all abusive tweets sent to MPs in the first 6 months of 2017. Out of 630 MPs Abbott received 31% of ALL abusive tweets sent to MPs (45% in run up to the General Election) Theresa May doesn't even figure in the top 10 The groups who received by far the most abuse were the Black MPs and SNP female MPs
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 2, 2018 15:19:49 GMT
Although the Sun made a complete hash of that poster, the principles of it are correct. JRM has many times over the last few months indicated that by leaving the CU, food, clothing and footwear would be cheaper, thus giving the poorest in society a much needed boost. and he's completely misinformed and misinforming others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 15:35:40 GMT
Really. So the CU does not impose higher tariffs on food, clothing and footwear from outside the EU ?
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Post by manmarking on Mar 2, 2018 16:01:09 GMT
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Post by StokieNath on Mar 2, 2018 16:10:20 GMT
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Post by StokieNath on Mar 2, 2018 16:10:58 GMT
Toxic woman.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 2, 2018 16:32:14 GMT
You want to hear me on Gemma Collins and James Corden- there shouldn't be a seperate rule for 'Jabbott' just because she's 'of colour' as surely that's not treating everyone the same, which I thought the left were striving for? Not that she's covered herself in glory herself regarding comments on race... I don't like Stormzy's music. There's no racial subtext in that, I just think the stuff he produces is bilge that I've forgotten about after 20 minutes let alone 20 years. The fact that he's black is immaterial. It's the left who seem to bring everything back to race, can we not just call a fool a fool regardless of colour? Are you seriously suggesting the thousands who send her tweets calling her 'black bitch' etc are on the left side of the political spectrum? I repeat.....look at the facts....not just what's goin on inside your own head and please feel free to offer an explanation and convince me that all that abuse came from the left. 20 Black and Ethnic Minority MPs received 41% of all abusive tweets sent to MPs in the first 6 months of 2017. Out of 630 MPs Abbott received 31% of ALL abusive tweets sent to MPs (45% in run up to the General Election) Theresa May doesn't even figure in the top 10 The groups who received by far the most abuse were the Black MPs and SNP female MPs No I am sure your right almost all the black insults are from the right The left just tend to stick to being racist to Jews and whites
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Post by StokieNath on Mar 2, 2018 16:36:34 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting the thousands who send her tweets calling her 'black bitch' etc are on the left side of the political spectrum? I repeat.....look at the facts....not just what's goin on inside your own head and please feel free to offer an explanation and convince me that all that abuse came from the left. 20 Black and Ethnic Minority MPs received 41% of all abusive tweets sent to MPs in the first 6 months of 2017. Out of 630 MPs Abbott received 31% of ALL abusive tweets sent to MPs (45% in run up to the General Election) Theresa May doesn't even figure in the top 10 The groups who received by far the most abuse were the Black MPs and SNP female MPs No I am sure your right almost all the black insults are from the right The left just tend to stick to being racist to Jews and whites they also take pride in destroying democracy.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 2, 2018 18:00:07 GMT
No I am sure your right almost all the black insults are from the right The left just tend to stick to being racist to Jews and whites they also take pride in destroying democracy. They are trying their hardest to foil the will of the people over Brexit, bunch of spineless whinging tarts.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 2, 2018 22:40:25 GMT
You want to hear me on Gemma Collins and James Corden- there shouldn't be a seperate rule for 'Jabbott' just because she's 'of colour' as surely that's not treating everyone the same, which I thought the left were striving for? Not that she's covered herself in glory herself regarding comments on race... I don't like Stormzy's music. There's no racial subtext in that, I just think the stuff he produces is bilge that I've forgotten about after 20 minutes let alone 20 years. The fact that he's black is immaterial. It's the left who seem to bring everything back to race, can we not just call a fool a fool regardless of colour? Are you seriously suggesting the thousands who send her tweets calling her 'black bitch' etc are on the left side of the political spectrum? I repeat.....look at the facts....not just what's goin on inside your own head and please feel free to offer an explanation and convince me that all that abuse came from the left. 20 Black and Ethnic Minority MPs received 41% of all abusive tweets sent to MPs in the first 6 months of 2017. Out of 630 MPs Abbott received 31% of ALL abusive tweets sent to MPs (45% in run up to the General Election) Theresa May doesn't even figure in the top 10 The groups who received by far the most abuse were the Black MPs and SNP female MPs You appear to have ignored my previous links re: anti-semitism from the militant left within Labour. Don't ask me to furnish you with links and evidence when you can't be bothered to read ones I've already posted. As for Abbott receiving racist Tweets, given how many people from different ends of the spectrum are on Twitter, the law of averages dictates that she's bound to receive some comeback given her own disparaging remarks about white people, again something you seem eager to gloss over. Do you believe her comments were acceptable? And who said anything about these Tweets coming from the left? I said the left bring everything back down to race which is what Momo did further up this thread and you also appear to be proving my point quite succinctly ☺
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 3, 2018 11:32:38 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting the thousands who send her tweets calling her 'black bitch' etc are on the left side of the political spectrum? I repeat.....look at the facts....not just what's goin on inside your own head and please feel free to offer an explanation and convince me that all that abuse came from the left. 20 Black and Ethnic Minority MPs received 41% of all abusive tweets sent to MPs in the first 6 months of 2017. Out of 630 MPs Abbott received 31% of ALL abusive tweets sent to MPs (45% in run up to the General Election) Theresa May doesn't even figure in the top 10 The groups who received by far the most abuse were the Black MPs and SNP female MPs You appear to have ignored my previous links re: anti-semitism from the militant left within Labour. Don't ask me to furnish you with links and evidence when you can't be bothered to read ones I've already posted. As for Abbott receiving racist Tweets, given how many people from different ends of the spectrum are on Twitter, the law of averages dictates that she's bound to receive some comeback given her own disparaging remarks about white people, again something you seem eager to gloss over. Do you believe her comments were acceptable? And who said anything about these Tweets coming from the left? I said the left bring everything back down to race which is what Momo did further up this thread and you also appear to be proving my point quite succinctly ☺ What are these anti-Semitic remarks specifically??? You have posted 2 links, one is about Livingstone who has been expelled from the party. What more do you want there? Are you saying if someone says something that is perceived to be anti-Semitic (though that is debatable imho and often anti-Israeli which is a completely different thing) then it is ok for that person to be abused racially??? Let's get this clear as you keep banging on about it as if you are somehow the victim here, It is not bringing back EVERYTHING to race, that is a totally disingenuous response and totally misleading. This is a specific point. if you don't think there is a problem given the disproportionate amount of abuse aimed at Black MPs compared to others then you can only be in denial. Your defence of these abusive tweets based on the fact she must have provoked abuse is dangerous and quite frightening to be honest. Do you support abusive tweets that call her out as a black bitch etc Yes or No??? Also you seem confused I am not defending each of Abbott's political statements. She is a politician she is most often wrong as are nearly all politicians. I am defending her right not to be abused based on the colour of he skin. The evidence for that in this case is very, very clear. I have seen no evidence that comments she has made deserve that kind of abuse. Other MPs who make comparative gaffes do not receive the same level of abuse. That is a fact. Her comments about white people are hardly abusive. In fact, I find the response to these comments totally over the top given that our recent history of over 300 years of British colonialism based on enslavement of black peoples. Does she call white people bitches?.. make comments about their physical appearances???
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