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Nov 5, 2017 16:23:34 GMT
Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 5, 2017 16:23:34 GMT
No fight no defence only played when he wanted never turned up every week would not dig in when things got tough.. If this is true then he is the polar opposite to SJW.
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Post by thehoof on Nov 5, 2017 16:24:10 GMT
And if you wanted left backs strolling in the box with no one tracking you could rely on Walters. More deluded nonsense from the king of delusion. Give me a fully fit 28 year old SJW over the Austrian tart any day of the week SJW's defensive work was massively overrated. He was someone who constantly got the wrong side of his man when carrying out his defensive duties. Can't argue that he had a never say die attitude but genuine moments of excitement were more likely to come from Arnie than SJW - and SJW's constant " play me or I want away" shenanigans were a bit wearing.
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Nov 5, 2017 16:28:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 16:28:34 GMT
Looks like he's got a bit of herpes on his lips. Also looks like he has been going mad on the old Grecian 2000...
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Post by sovietonion on Nov 5, 2017 16:28:45 GMT
Agree to some extent but let's not romanticise here- when Walters had a bad game he REALLY stunk the place out. Absolute grafter but sometimes played like a toddler wearing his dad's shoes.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2017 16:59:07 GMT
Just sounds like the bitter, petty cunt that he is. Arnautovic was better offensively, defensively and when he was on song worth the admission fee alone, statistics even proved that the whole “Walters is in the team for his defensive capabilities” was a complete myth, he was comfortably the worst wide player in every department, but because he ran about a bit that made it all ok. Don’t give me the top scorer bollocks either, he played about 9000 games I’d expect fucking Butland to score that many never mind an actual striker, and half of them were penalties, which he was shit at, proper hit and hope. I’ll spew all the acid I can at Arnautovic but to come out with all of that is completely unsubstantiated shite, never has a player dined out on a six month patch of form to the degree old Jonboy did. He was kept here for two seasons too long, he was utterly hopeless to watch and he should have been fucked off the moment he started the woe is me nonsense regarding his contract. I’d have the Austrian serpent back here over the Merseyside plodder any day. Spot on.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:03:08 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 5, 2017 17:03:08 GMT
I wonder what reasons Arnie would come up with to explain why Walters is failing at Burnley?
Oh, let's not forget that Walters was good around the club and in the dressing room.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:21:42 GMT
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Post by gogogadget on Nov 5, 2017 17:21:42 GMT
Seems like the final comment was aimed at the squad in general, saying we have too many players that don't want dig in and fight.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Nov 5, 2017 17:22:49 GMT
Seems like the final comment was aimed at the squad in general, saying we have too many players that don't want dig in and fight. He was talking about West Ham.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:25:34 GMT
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Post by Dave the Rave on Nov 5, 2017 17:25:34 GMT
I wonder what reasons Arnie would come up with to explain why Walters is failing at Burnley? Oh, let's not forget that Walters was good around the club and in the dressing room. His injury I'd imagine. Walters always seemed well liked by the rest of the squad as far as I could see and rarely got a bollocking from anyone else on the pitch. Still, you didn't like him so he must have been totally shit and been a dissenting voice in the dressing room.
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Post by chad on Nov 5, 2017 17:28:05 GMT
Arnie or SJW. No contest for me Super John everytime. Gave far more for the club than Arnie ever did. Most Stokies will put SJW in or around “Legend” status Arnie will be just another mercenary who had a few good games
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Nov 5, 2017 17:29:58 GMT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 5, 2017 17:29:58 GMT
I wonder what reasons Arnie would come up with to explain why Walters is failing at Burnley? Oh, let's not forget that Walters was good around the club and in the dressing room. His injury I'd imagine. Walters always seemed well liked by the rest of the squad as far as I could see and rarely got a bollocking from anyone else on the pitch. Still, you didn't like him so he must have been totally shit and been a dissenting voice in the dressing room. It’s no coincidence to me that ever since we’ve sold Walters, Whelan and Bardsley the lads have looked happier as a squad. It all seemed a bit cliquey to me beforehand.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:33:34 GMT
Post by nott1 on Nov 5, 2017 17:33:34 GMT
What he's really doing is trying to be a bit contoversial now that his knee is fucked (along with his career) in order to get a pundits job!
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Post by sovietonion on Nov 5, 2017 17:39:31 GMT
What he's really doing is trying to be a bit contoversial now that his knee is fucked (along with his career) in order to get a pundits job! Chris Sutton has the Bad Cop pundit sewn up. Seems to be the original 'shock jock' in the insipid world of analysis. Breath of fresh air. Horrible voice though.
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Post by stantheman on Nov 5, 2017 18:10:52 GMT
His injury I'd imagine. Walters always seemed well liked by the rest of the squad as far as I could see and rarely got a bollocking from anyone else on the pitch. Still, you didn't like him so he must have been totally shit and been a dissenting voice in the dressing room. It’s no coincidence to me that ever since we’ve sold Walters, Whelan and Bardsley the lads have looked happier as a squad. It all seemed a bit cliquey to me beforehand. I've read some utter bile on this message board over the years but how you can judge a squad to be happier this season is fookin laughable.
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Nov 5, 2017 18:16:35 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2017 18:16:35 GMT
Arnie or SJW. No contest for me Super John everytime. Gave far more for the club than Arnie ever did. Most Stokies will put SJW in or around “Legend” status Arnie will be just another mercenary who had a few good games And that sums Stoke fans up more than it does Walters.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 5, 2017 18:16:51 GMT
It’s no coincidence to me that ever since we’ve sold Walters, Whelan and Bardsley the lads have looked happier as a squad. It all seemed a bit cliquey to me beforehand. I've read some utter bile on this message board over the years but how you can judge a squad to be happier this season is fookin laughable. Personal observation, when you had the likes of Whelan visibly calling N’Goy “fucking shit” last season, Walters moaning about his place in the team every 5 minutes, the Arnie situation and Imbula refusing to integrate, we’ve eked out the bad eggs and whilst the football on offer is still shite they all seem to get on better than they appeared to be doing last season, in my eyes anyway.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2017 18:19:09 GMT
I've read some utter bile on this message board over the years but how you can judge a squad to be happier this season is fookin laughable. Personal observation, when you had the likes of Whelan visibly calling N’Goy “fucking shit” last season, Walters moaning about his place in the team every 5 minutes, the Arnie situation and Imbula refusing to integrate, we’ve eked out the bad eggs and whilst the football on offer is still shite they all seem to get on better than they appeared to be doing last season, in my eyes anyway. I think every player that left this summer took a massive bit of baggage with them.
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Nov 5, 2017 21:05:36 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 5, 2017 21:05:36 GMT
I've read some utter bile on this message board over the years but how you can judge a squad to be happier this season is fookin laughable. Personal observation, when you had the likes of Whelan visibly calling N’Goy “fucking shit” last season, Walters moaning about his place in the team every 5 minutes, the Arnie situation and Imbula refusing to integrate, we’ve eked out the bad eggs and whilst the football on offer is still shite they all seem to get on better than they appeared to be doing last season, in my eyes anyway. That's a really interesting observation and I think you've pointed out something there that a lot of us wouldnt have looked at. Team harmony is massive and maybe we are in a better place this season.
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Post by lordb on Nov 5, 2017 21:17:24 GMT
Choupo is clearly popular in the camp,easy going guy. Zouma is also a big positive character Fletcher has clear leadership qualities
Off the pitch Hughes has brought the right guys in/moved on the right guys.
Simply not a viable argument to say anything else.
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Post by march4 on Nov 5, 2017 21:42:13 GMT
SJW was so much better than Arnie, the comparison is laughable.
And we are missing a fully fit SJW terribly this season.
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Nov 5, 2017 21:48:20 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 5, 2017 21:48:20 GMT
SJW was so much better than Arnie, the comparison is laughable. And we are missing a fully fit SJW terribly this season. I think he's 'done' at this level now.
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Nov 5, 2017 21:54:38 GMT
Post by liam007 on Nov 5, 2017 21:54:38 GMT
I wonder what reasons Arnie would come up with to explain why Walters is failing at Burnley? Oh, let's not forget that Walters was good around the club and in the dressing room. How many times did you play for Stoke City? You keep having a pop at Jon but please remind me of how many times you played for our club,really interested.
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Nov 5, 2017 22:00:08 GMT
He’s not said anything in that clip different than most Stoke supporters have said about Arnie.
Personally, who would I prefer by my side in a difficult game.....
SJW every single time.
Honest
Solid
Professional
They all do what they can for the dollar, but Jon always turned up.
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Nov 5, 2017 22:01:33 GMT
Post by flea79 on Nov 5, 2017 22:01:33 GMT
SJW was so much better than Arnie, the comparison is laughable. And we are missing a fully fit SJW terribly this season. I think he's 'done' at this level now. aye your right, maybe lower down he could still do a huge job for somebody, regardless of anybodies feelings on SJW even when he had a stinker he never stopped running and that is going to catch up with you eventually
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 5, 2017 22:11:22 GMT
I wonder what reasons Arnie would come up with to explain why Walters is failing at Burnley? Oh, let's not forget that Walters was good around the club and in the dressing room. How many times did you play for Stoke City? You keep having a pop at Jon but please remind me of how many times you played for our club,really interested. You've got a former player commenting on another former players struggles at a new club when he himself is also struggling at his new club. Both of them are absolute wankers.
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Nov 5, 2017 22:14:09 GMT
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Nov 5, 2017 22:14:09 GMT
How many times did you play for Stoke City? You keep having a pop at Jon but please remind me of how many times you played for our club,really interested. You've got a former player commenting on another former players struggles at a new club when he himself is also struggling at his new club. Both of them are absolute wankers. Opinions, opinions.....
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Nov 5, 2017 22:15:02 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2017 22:15:02 GMT
He’s not said anything in that clip different than most Stoke supporters have said about Arnie. Personally, who would I prefer by my side in a difficult game..... SJW every single time. Honest Solid Professional They all do what they can for the dollar, but Jon always turned up. Did he? He'd run around a bit but he didn't turn up quite often.
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Nov 5, 2017 22:18:42 GMT
Post by liam007 on Nov 5, 2017 22:18:42 GMT
He’s not said anything in that clip different than most Stoke supporters have said about Arnie. Personally, who would I prefer by my side in a difficult game..... SJW every single time. Honest Solid Professional They all do what they can for the dollar, but Jon always turned up. Did he? He'd run around a bit but he didn't turn up quite often. And how many goals did you score for Stoke City at Wembley please? Just asking.
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Nov 5, 2017 22:21:06 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2017 22:21:06 GMT
Did he? He'd run around a bit but he didn't turn up quite often. And how many goals did you score for Stoke City at Wembley please? Just asking. Shut the forum, close the pubs, turn off Twitter.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 5, 2017 22:22:33 GMT
Personal observation, when you had the likes of Whelan visibly calling N’Goy “fucking shit” last season, Walters moaning about his place in the team every 5 minutes, the Arnie situation and Imbula refusing to integrate, we’ve eked out the bad eggs and whilst the football on offer is still shite they all seem to get on better than they appeared to be doing last season, in my eyes anyway. I think every player that left this summer took a massive bit of baggage with them. might explain selling Phil and keeping Johnson. A transition season where Hughes needed to get rid of certain characters
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