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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 4, 2017 23:17:02 GMT
So credit where it’s due, yes? I don't beleive that it deserves credit as we have had to rely on Crouch (I like Crouchy) yet again to bail us out of the shit, it is luck rather than judgement. Is it a poor substitution if he doesn't score? If it was a masterstroke then yes I will 100% give credit but it isnt. It’s a poor substitution if your substitute has no impact whatsoever or has a detrimental impact on the side. If it has a positive impact then it was a good substitution yes. That’s how it works. It doesn’t have to be a ‘master stroke’.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 4, 2017 23:19:47 GMT
I don't beleive that it deserves credit as we have had to rely on Crouch (I like Crouchy) yet again to bail us out of the shit, it is luck rather than judgement. Is it a poor substitution if he doesn't score? If it was a masterstroke then yes I will 100% give credit but it isnt. It’s a poor substitution if your substitute has no impact whatsoever or has a detrimental impact on the side. If it has a positive impact then it was a good substitution yes. That’s how it works. It doesn’t have to be a ‘master stroke’. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, it payed off today and thank god for Crouch (again) but was not through the tactical wisdom of Hughes IMO
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 4, 2017 23:21:21 GMT
It’s a poor substitution if your substitute has no impact whatsoever or has a detrimental impact on the side. If it has a positive impact then it was a good substitution yes. That’s how it works. It doesn’t have to be a ‘master stroke’. We'll agree to disagree on this one, it payed off today and thank god for Crouch (again) but was not through the tactical wisdom of Hughes IMO If the manager has made the sub and the sub scores, you’re saying the manager deserves no credit for that at all, can I just make sure I’ve got that right? It paid off today. Today is what we’re talking about. That’s what we’re rating.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 4, 2017 23:24:34 GMT
We'll agree to disagree on this one, it payed off today and thank god for Crouch (again) but was not through the tactical wisdom of Hughes IMO If the manager has made the sub and the sub scores, you’re saying the manager deserves no credit for that at all, can I just make sure I’ve got that right? It paid off today. Today is what we’re talking about. That’s what we’re rating. I get that he made the sub, however, he made the sub as it is the only sub he knows how to make, the rest are usually baffling. If it makes you feel better, Hughes was absolutely spot on today and played the plan perfectly
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 4, 2017 23:27:15 GMT
If the manager has made the sub and the sub scores, you’re saying the manager deserves no credit for that at all, can I just make sure I’ve got that right? It paid off today. Today is what we’re talking about. That’s what we’re rating. I get that he made the sub, however, he made the sub as it is the only sub he knows how to make, the rest are usually baffling. If it makes you feel better, Hughes was absolutely spot on today and played the plan perfectly I’m not a Hughes die hard by any stretch, I just believe in credit where it’s due. He gets stuff right, he gets a fair bit more wrong these days. But you can argue about the season, you can argue about the last two seasons, but this thread is about today, and if the change he made 1) made us look better and 2) brought about the equaliser, then on this occasion it’s worthy of praise.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 4, 2017 23:30:18 GMT
I get that he made the sub, however, he made the sub as it is the only sub he knows how to make, the rest are usually baffling. If it makes you feel better, Hughes was absolutely spot on today and played the plan perfectly I’m not a Hughes die hard by any stretch, I just believe in credit where it’s due. He gets stuff right, he gets a fair bit more wrong these days. But you can argue about the season, you can argue about the last two seasons, but this thread is about today, and if the change he made 1) made us look better and 2) brought about the equaliser, then on this occasion it’s worthy of praise. In answer to the OP, its a 10 from me today, got the subs absolutely bang on
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 4, 2017 23:36:43 GMT
I’m not a Hughes die hard by any stretch, I just believe in credit where it’s due. He gets stuff right, he gets a fair bit more wrong these days. But you can argue about the season, you can argue about the last two seasons, but this thread is about today, and if the change he made 1) made us look better and 2) brought about the equaliser, then on this occasion it’s worthy of praise. In answer to the OP, its a 10 from me today, got the subs absolutely bang on I don’t think what I’m saying is anything other than basic common sense.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 4, 2017 23:38:48 GMT
In answer to the OP, its a 10 from me today, got the subs absolutely bang on I don’t think what I’m saying is anything other than basic common sense. And I think that it was luck rather than judgement Opinions are great
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 4, 2017 23:40:41 GMT
I don’t think what I’m saying is anything other than basic common sense. And I think that it was luck rather than judgement Opinions are great He can’t win then in your book then can he? If it goes wrong it’s his fault and if it comes off it’s “luck”.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 4, 2017 23:42:47 GMT
And I think that it was luck rather than judgement Opinions are great He can’t win then in your book then can he? If it goes wrong it’s his fault and if it comes off it’s “luck”. When it comes to subs pretty much
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 4, 2017 23:44:24 GMT
He can’t win then in your book then can he? If it goes wrong it’s his fault and if it comes off it’s “luck”. When it comes to subs pretty much So you’re not prepared to be objective, is that fair? Why come on a thread based purely on one game if you’re not prepared to judge purely on that game?
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 4, 2017 23:46:06 GMT
When it comes to subs pretty much So you’re not prepared to be objective, is that fair? Why come on a thread based purely on one game if you’re not prepared to judge purely on that game? I am judging on this game... he got lucky that it worked today, it didnt in the last few games so for that he gets extra points
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 4, 2017 23:49:16 GMT
So you’re not prepared to be objective, is that fair? Why come on a thread based purely on one game if you’re not prepared to judge purely on that game? I am judging on this game... he got lucky that it worked today, it didnt in the last few games so for that he gets extra points Yep, anything good is lucky, anything bad is his fault. I think I’ll leave it there Gary Neville, I can’t keep up with insight this searing.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 5, 2017 0:19:58 GMT
I am judging on this game... he got lucky that it worked today, it didnt in the last few games so for that he gets extra points Yep, anything good is lucky, anything bad is his fault. I think I’ll leave it there Gary Neville, I can’t keep up with insight this searing. Difficult to have an opinion that doesnt match up with the protective Hughes camp
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 5, 2017 0:25:18 GMT
Yep, anything good is lucky, anything bad is his fault. I think I’ll leave it there Gary Neville, I can’t keep up with insight this searing. Difficult to have an opinion that doesnt match up with the protective Hughes camp The protective Hughes camp? Have you read any of my posts on other threads today? Or over the past month?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 0:27:25 GMT
7.354
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 5, 2017 0:50:04 GMT
Difficult to have an opinion that doesnt match up with the protective Hughes camp The protective Hughes camp? Have you read any of my posts on other threads today? Or over the past month? So if a man goes to a casino every Saturday, and every time he goes he places £1,000 on zero on the roulette table, he doesn't win for 30 visits but on the 31st it rolls in, was the mans bet a great bet tactically or did he just get lucky that week? If you pit the same bet on every single week, the odds say that you will eventually win
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Post by kustokie on Nov 5, 2017 1:05:27 GMT
5. We don’t have two wing backs or three centre backs to play the formation Hughes wants to play. When will he wake up and figure that out before we kick off, instead of waiting until we are 45 minutes into the match and a goal down. We don’t have the perfect squad for a 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, or 4-4-2 but any formation will work better with what we have than playing three at the back with two make shift wing-backs. He proved it in the second half today.
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Post by kustokie on Nov 5, 2017 1:08:05 GMT
The protective Hughes camp? Have you read any of my posts on other threads today? Or over the past month? So if a man goes to a casino every Saturday, and every time he goes he places £1,000 on zero on the roulette table, he doesn't win for 30 visits but on the 31st it rolls in, was the mans bet a great bet tactically or did he just get lucky that week? If you pit the same bet on every single week, the odds say that you will eventually win That’s voodoo statistics. The odds always favor the house. The more times you bet the greater your chances of winning once, but you’ll still lose money overall and the more you bet the more you’ll lose.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 5, 2017 5:33:14 GMT
The protective Hughes camp? Have you read any of my posts on other threads today? Or over the past month? So if a man goes to a casino every Saturday, and every time he goes he places £1,000 on zero on the roulette table, he doesn't win for 30 visits but on the 31st it rolls in, was the mans bet a great bet tactically or did he just get lucky that week? If you pit the same bet on every single week, the odds say that you will eventually win It’s not the same thing. There are more variables as well. Did the right person come off? Yes. Was it timed well? Yes. Did we play better as a team owing to the other changes made to accommodate it? Yes, in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 6:35:03 GMT
but for an amazing save from Jack... No point considering these 'buts', otherwise why not mention the Choupo chance just before Leicester scored? What about the two great saves Schmeichel pulled off to stop us getting the victory? Cant bemoan that we could have been two down but not give the same consideration to our own chances.
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Post by superheroantonius on Nov 5, 2017 15:10:51 GMT
David Wagner quoted yesterday, " we got in their faces " ... blah blah ..." and we got the win " , I am sure he is a very knowledgeable coach but come match time on Saturday afternoon , it's pretty clear what he emphasised to his players .
I wouldn't mind a bit of that from Hughes
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Post by loosestools on Nov 5, 2017 16:10:23 GMT
10 from me, how else could he have set up? *
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