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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2017 16:40:59 GMT
It isn't rubbish. Ramadan was done at least twice down Watford right wing and they put in dangerous crosses. He was looking jaded to me when he went off. If you thought Choupo's defending after being moved there was better than Ramadan's I suggest you adjust your screens.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 28, 2017 16:44:32 GMT
He out pulised Pulis by playing four centre halves two wing backs that hardly got forward and two defensive midfield players , but needed a result and got one so 8* . Hopefully he has learnt that we can't let teams behind us now so that's a positive . Still lots of concerns but today he did what he had to do .
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Post by rambo61 on Oct 28, 2017 16:49:46 GMT
10...Watford 0 attempts on target..says it all!!
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 28, 2017 16:51:19 GMT
5 - Watched all of the game, defended better but no creativity, poor ball retention, square pegs in round holes again, was it 25% possession again? This was fucking Watford not Barcelona lets not forget. Gouranga.
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Oct 28, 2017 17:05:06 GMT
5 - Watched all of the game, defended better but no creativity, poor ball retention, square pegs in round holes again, was it 25% possession again? This was fucking Watford not Barcelona lets not forget. Gouranga. Doesn't Hughes usually watch all of the game?
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Post by ed5993 on Oct 28, 2017 17:16:03 GMT
9 - had a well worked out game plan which he adapted when needed. Just what was required
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 17:25:45 GMT
Would like to see Hughes more animated. You want him to be what he's not. You want him to be you.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Oct 28, 2017 17:36:54 GMT
9
The only things that were really important today were (a) a positive response me from the players and (b) 3 points. He got both. It was ugly, it was nerve wracking towards the end and it was by no means good to watch, but they all put a massive shift in and got the job done. Excellent at the back, great team effort and a lovely goal from Fletch to top it off. Shawcross was immense, and looked very much back to his inspirational best.
Playing Diouf at right wing back again after his scoring run took some balls and was a massive gamble, and Hughes deserves some credit for that - Diouf was exceptional again. I wish we could clone the fucker and have one of him in defense, midfield and attack.
We still have problems, but today was a job well done, now let’s build on it.
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Post by mrred on Oct 28, 2017 17:37:13 GMT
Would like to see Hughes more animated. You want him to be what he's not. You want him to be you. Ha! What? I just want him to sound interested and show some fight instead of trying to be clever in interviews when the chips have been down for quite some time. I want him to talk about Stoke like he's proud to represent the club that gave him an olive branch and a chance to resurrect his career when it was next to dinosaur bones.
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Post by lloydstevens43 on Oct 28, 2017 17:37:46 GMT
We just bout won. He played Ramadan like I told him to.
5/10
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Post by djduncanjames on Oct 28, 2017 17:38:06 GMT
8.75
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Post by kustokie on Oct 28, 2017 17:57:12 GMT
9. I very pleased we tried Cheepo up front because he has shown he can be dangerous in front of goal. It didn’t work out that well but at least he gave it a try and let’s face it he didn’t get much service. It looked like we had a plan for once and there was definitely more energy in the first half. It was the defense of the Alamo in the second half and at times we looked like a bad pub team. But we won when we weren’t supposed to, which is typical Stoke and a step in the right direction.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 28, 2017 17:59:48 GMT
7 -1 Choupo centre forward -1 Subbing Ramadan who was doing a good job and moving Choupo into his place -1 Charlie "fucking" Adam -1 for Charlie Adam? Jeez. Je suis Charlie.
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Post by stokeson on Oct 28, 2017 18:29:06 GMT
10+ for shutting all the moaner up. Hughes IN.
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 28, 2017 18:44:21 GMT
9 for a battling performance an away win and a clean sheet. You can't really expect more. He loses one point for bringing on the woeful Berahino. Chances on the counter attack were always likely so Jese I am thinking would have tucked the Berahino chance away. Come to think of it I think I might have scored it. You can see why Hughes has little confidence in a striker who has no idea how to convert a golden opportunity. How much did he cost?
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Oct 28, 2017 18:45:15 GMT
We just bout won. He played Ramadan like I told him to. 5/10 He must be listening to you.
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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2017 19:35:36 GMT
9 for a battling performance an away win and a clean sheet. You can't really expect more. He loses one point for bringing on the woeful Berahino. Chances on the counter attack were always likely so Jese I am thinking would have tucked the Berahino chance away. Come to think of it I think I might have scored it. You can see why Hughes has little confidence in a striker who has no idea how to convert a golden opportunity. How much did he cost? Shame Jese wasn't on he could have got in his ear telling him how he should have taken it whilst contributing the square root of fuck all himself(watch him its what he does all the time). He was unlucky with the chance and made a useful contribution whilst on the pitch, far more so than Choupo who'd occupied that position for over 70 minutes.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 28, 2017 19:41:53 GMT
-1 for Charlie Adam? Jeez. Why the fuck would you ever bring Adam on when you're trying to hold onto a lead? What the fuck do you know about football management?
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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2017 19:45:47 GMT
Why the fuck would you ever bring Adam on when you're trying to hold onto a lead? What the fuck do you know about football management? Well I know about the attributes of our players enough to realise that bringing Adam on in that situation poses more risks than benefits.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 28, 2017 19:47:43 GMT
What the fuck do you know about football management? Well I know about the attributes of our players enough to realise that bringing Adam on in that situation poses more risks than benefits. Yes of course you do your great experience in Football management is better than Hughes's
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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2017 19:51:36 GMT
Well I know about the attributes of our players enough to realise that bringing Adam on in that situation poses more risks than benefits. Yes of course you do your great experience in Football management is better than Hughes's Spit the dog's is better than Hughes' the last 20 odd months.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 28, 2017 19:57:11 GMT
Yes of course you do your great experience in Football management is better than Hughes's Spit the dog's is better than Hughes' the last 20 odd months. see you have no idea you know nothing about football management have no idea on understanding tactics so resort to pathetic childish comments.
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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2017 20:02:50 GMT
Spit the dog's is better than Hughes' the last 20 odd months. see you have no idea you know nothing about football management have no idea on understanding tactics so resort to pathetic childish comments. He's so good that after having a side that would go anywhere and give anyone a game he's managed (I use the word loosely it probably needs mis before it)to create a team that his predecessor would be proud of going to the mighty Watford and camping on the edge of our own box.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 28, 2017 20:04:19 GMT
5pts for the win. 2pts for playing Ramadan. 3 pts for not picking Johnson.
10pts.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 28, 2017 20:05:28 GMT
see you have no idea you know nothing about football management have no idea on understanding tactics so resort to pathetic childish comments. He's so good that after having a side that would go anywhere and give anyone a game he's managed (I use the word loosely it probably needs mis before it)to create a team that his predecessor would be proud of going to the mighty Watford and camping on the edge of our own box. needs must and that is something else you cant comprehend. Book an appointment with Mourinho he will draw you a diagram
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 28, 2017 20:10:50 GMT
7* on the way to the match I predicted a 1-0 win...but wasn't serious, just hopeful I thought he was 15 to 20 minutes late making changes, there were some tired legs out there and we were 'hanging on'. Not a vintage performance by any means but a massive improvement on Bournemouth in terms of attitude and application, and we overcame a real 'muppet' of a ref too. This will result will count for nowt if we lose to Leicester...
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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2017 20:15:14 GMT
He's so good that after having a side that would go anywhere and give anyone a game he's managed (I use the word loosely it probably needs mis before it)to create a team that his predecessor would be proud of going to the mighty Watford and camping on the edge of our own box. needs must and that is something else you cant comprehend. Book an appointment with Mourinho he will draw you a diagram I don't want to thanks Mourinho's pragmatism wins trophies. Hughes pragmatism has led to regression and lack of entertainment and feels all too familiar.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 28, 2017 20:17:59 GMT
needs must and that is something else you cant comprehend. Book an appointment with Mourinho he will draw you a diagram I don't want to thanks Mourinho's pragmatism wins trophies. Hughes pragmatism has led to regression and lack of entertainment and feels all too familiar. so itsa ok in one case to defend but not the other? so you agree with me then that needs must !!
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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2017 20:27:41 GMT
I don't want to thanks Mourinho's pragmatism wins trophies. Hughes pragmatism has led to regression and lack of entertainment and feels all too familiar. so itsa ok in one case to defend but not the other? so you agree with me then that needs must !! I prefer entertaining attacking football but you can't argue with Mourinho's record. He won the Champions league with Inter in probably the most boring manner ever. I don't think we're about to win the Champions league or the Premier League or probably anything else either therefore you have to try to alleviate mid table mediocrity by at least trying to play some good entertaining football. When was the last time Mark Hughes produced any of that? clue it'll be two years very soon.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 28, 2017 20:38:12 GMT
so itsa ok in one case to defend but not the other? so you agree with me then thatn needs must !! I prefer entertaining attacking football but you can't argue with Mourinho's record. He won the Champions league with Inter in probably the most boring manner ever. I don't think we're about to win the Champions league or the Premier League or probably anything else either therefore you have to try to alleviate mid table mediocrity by at least trying to play some good entertaining football. When was the last time Mark Hughes produced any of that? clue it'll be two years very soon. changing your stance now then? Mid table is the level of this club the top teams have the money and pulling power we never will have.
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