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Post by kevkj on Oct 23, 2017 13:08:10 GMT
Whilst everyone agrees Pieters is pathetic as a wing back im astounded at how many people say he is a steady left back.
Last season he was absolutely awful stinking the place out with his switching off, piss poor passing and pushing players in the back to give dangerous freekicks away.
I lost count how many goals he cost us. Shambles of a player.
Talk about short memorys he is utter garbage best thing he does is clap the crowd at 90 mins . Whats left that is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2017 13:09:44 GMT
He was and we don't have a viable alternative.
Not sure what we can do?
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Post by kevkj on Oct 23, 2017 13:10:37 GMT
And there is the problem.
"Vis Unita Fortior"
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 23, 2017 13:11:25 GMT
Pieters was superb when he first signed, a true warrior of a player who sadly has fallen victim to having no real competition for his place, so even when he was woefully out of form there was no-one capable to replace him, which meant he had to consistently play despite having mare after mare, which has steadily destroyed his confidence.
Yet more short-sightedness from the manager, who’s now expecting a player who hasn’t had a good sustained run of form for well over a year to play a position he’s not really suited to, I like Ekker, but he needs a break out of the team, badly.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 23, 2017 13:14:55 GMT
The stats say you're wrong, with Pieters in the top 10 defenders last season, all this Pieters bashing is quite tiresome he's quite often the scapegoat, he's not the biggest problem we have at the moment and he's definitely not a wing back though but that's down to mismanagement. Saying that I'd be tempted to give Tymon and Edwards a go at full back with 2 of Zouma and Ryan or BMI in a back 4. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 13:17:17 GMT
I've never been his biggest fan.
Always expected him to be a lot better than he was with being a Dutch international at the time of him signing.
He had a spell where he started to change my opinion of him but now he looks worse than ever and I wouldn't want him in our team even if we were in a division lower, he's that bad.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 23, 2017 13:20:45 GMT
The stats say you're wrong, with Pieters in the top 10 defenders last season, all this Pieters bashing is quite tiresome he's quite often the scapegoat, he's not the biggest problem we have at the moment and he's definitely not a wing back though but that's down to mismanagement. Saying that I'd be tempted to give Tymon and Edwards a go at full back with 2 of Zouma and Ryan or BMI in a back 4. Gouranga. If you think Tymon and Edwards will solve our defensive frailties then you're in for a big surprise! Hughes has got us into this mess and expecting two teenagers to bale us out is optimistic to say the least. |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 23, 2017 13:26:46 GMT
The stats say you're wrong, with Pieters in the top 10 defenders last season, all this Pieters bashing is quite tiresome he's quite often the scapegoat, he's not the biggest problem we have at the moment and he's definitely not a wing back though but that's down to mismanagement. Saying that I'd be tempted to give Tymon and Edwards a go at full back with 2 of Zouma and Ryan or BMI in a back 4. Gouranga. If you think Tymon and Edwards will solve our defensive frailties then you're in for a big surprise! Hughes has got us into this mess and expecting two teenagers to bale us out is optimistic to say the least. Where have I said that? I said I'd give I'd give them a go, after all what other options have we got? Johnson, well past it and slower than injured slug, and Pieters who I think needs a rest, we have no other option apart from Geoff at RB which has never worked. Gouranga. |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 23, 2017 13:33:30 GMT
If you think Tymon and Edwards will solve our defensive frailties then you're in for a big surprise! Hughes has got us into this mess and expecting two teenagers to bale us out is optimistic to say the least. Where have I said that? I said I'd give I'd give them a go, after all what other options have we got? Johnson, well past it and slower than injured slug, and Pieters who I think needs a rest, we have no other option apart from Geoff at RB which has never worked. Gouranga. The inference is there Albert. Don't be evasive  |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 23, 2017 13:48:40 GMT
Where have I said that? I said I'd give I'd give them a go, after all what other options have we got? Johnson, well past it and slower than injured slug, and Pieters who I think needs a rest, we have no other option apart from Geoff at RB which has never worked. Gouranga. The inference is there Albert. Don't be evasive No it isn't I said give them a go, I didn't say they are the answer, stop trying to twist words BTW what would your answer be? Gouranga. |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 23, 2017 14:10:38 GMT
The inference is there Albert. Don't be evasive No it isn't I said give them a go, I didn't say they are the answer, stop trying to twist words BTW what would your answer be? Gouranga. I think our full back options are terrible Albert. Pieters worked well with Arnie but he was still poor too much of the time. Johnson is a busted flush and it's shocking to see. However, I saw Tymon away at Bristol City and he didn't look ready and Edwards is a young lad who perhaps doesn't need the pressure. We certainly can't play both at the same time in a flat back four though. Possibly in the Cup as wingbacks? It's a clusterf**k, make no mistake! |
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Post by TexasPotter on Oct 23, 2017 14:12:46 GMT
Pieters has put in some great performances at LB especially Man City away the last few seasons, for me he got full of himself and all that goofy modeling shit doesn’t help his foot kick the ball. For me he needs real competition brought in a back four and this wingback shit needs to go unless Hughes drops quid in January on a great couple players, if he is still here by then.
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Post by Gods on Oct 23, 2017 14:30:08 GMT
The stats say you're wrong, with Pieters in the top 10 defenders last season, all this Pieters bashing is quite tiresome he's quite often the scapegoat, he's not the biggest problem we have at the moment and he's definitely not a wing back though but that's down to mismanagement. Saying that I'd be tempted to give Tymon and Edwards a go at full back with 2 of Zouma and Ryan or BMI in a back 4. Gouranga. If you think Tymon and Edwards will solve our defensive frailties then you're in for a big surprise! Hughes has got us into this mess and expecting two teenagers to bale us out is optimistic to say the least. I liked that then I unliked it so I could like it again a 2nd time  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 14:41:42 GMT
The stats say you're wrong, with Pieters in the top 10 defenders last season, all this Pieters bashing is quite tiresome he's quite often the scapegoat, he's not the biggest problem we have at the moment and he's definitely not a wing back though but that's down to mismanagement. Saying that I'd be tempted to give Tymon and Edwards a go at full back with 2 of Zouma and Ryan or BMI in a back 4. Gouranga. Stats don't tell the whole story, I love so much about Erik and think he is one of the most committed and passionate players at the club. He shouldn't be our starting left back though, our toothlessness is largely because we're the only team in the league without attacking fullbacks. |
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Post by nott1 on Oct 23, 2017 15:36:52 GMT
He is the best LB we have like it or lump it, Tymon is nowhere near good enough to replace him!
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Post by pez75 on Oct 23, 2017 15:56:42 GMT
Pieters is an OK LB and fucking dreadful wingback. Error after error after error. Johnson bore the brunt on sat from the fans but Pieters was as bad if not worse. He is most definitely part of the problem if MH insists on continuing with WB's.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Oct 23, 2017 17:26:26 GMT
He's an ok left back defensively but a poor one attack wise and a poor wing back.
One of many who gets in the side because he faces no competition from anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 21:21:12 GMT
I like the bloke, but he's not quick enough for my liking, and as a wing back, his final ball is more often than not terrible!
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Post by robinplumpton on Oct 23, 2017 21:55:06 GMT
His performances have been similar to those of his team mates. His most telling contribution Saturday was his “fluffed” throw in. Not because it was symptomatic of his poor performance, but symptomatic of whatever we tried, we were crap at it, as a team. Blame seems to be attributed to individual mistakes, but we win or lose as a team and we only look like losing as that team
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 23, 2017 22:01:17 GMT
Can't understand why people attack Peiters. He isn't the best LB in the league but he is far from the worst and there are few players who have his commitment and put their body on the line. He has his bad days and can be found out by a tricky fast winger but on the whole he is a very good LB. He has played some great games for us.
His talent is defending when it comes to attacking he is a lower class. As an over-lapping LB his centring has been abysmal at times. This season he is being asked to carry out a completely new role for which he is not suited as he does not have sufficient pace and cannot beat a man. What is noticeable to me though is that he has clearly been working on his centring and has put in some brilliant centres so far this season.
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Post by lordb on Oct 23, 2017 22:03:00 GMT
Pieters is a perfectly acceptable back up to a decent left back.
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Post by Bombus on Oct 23, 2017 22:03:55 GMT
Always had soft spots for players giving it their absolute all for Stoke City. Pieters is one of those players. He is a warrior, always 110% no matter what.
I love him - but the lad can't cross for toffee though that is no news lately I feel he's looking right lost at times out there on the left. And I mean completely lost. Mistakes, every game, giving the ball away, every game. This cannot continue. I say give Josh a start at Watford with Bruno beside him on his right. It is a must win game for me and I fear I will actually lose myself if Erik's out there once again making a mess out of something next Saturday.
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 23, 2017 22:45:14 GMT
Can't understand why people attack Peiters. He isn't the best LB in the league but he is far from the worst and there are few players who have his commitment and put their body on the line. He has his bad days and can be found out by a tricky fast winger but on the whole he is a very good LB. He has played some great games for us. His talent is defending when it comes to attacking he is a lower class. As an over-lapping LB his centring has been abysmal at times. This season he is being asked to carry out a completely new role for which he is not suited as he does not have sufficient pace and cannot beat a man. What is noticeable to me though is that he has clearly been working on his centring and has put in some brilliant centres so far this season. His crossing is still dire. |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Oct 25, 2017 15:42:18 GMT
Can't understand why people attack Peiters. He isn't the best LB in the league but he is far from the worst and there are few players who have his commitment and put their body on the line. He has his bad days and can be found out by a tricky fast winger but on the whole he is a very good LB. He has played some great games for us. His talent is defending when it comes to attacking he is a lower class. As an over-lapping LB his centring has been abysmal at times. This season he is being asked to carry out a completely new role for which he is not suited as he does not have sufficient pace and cannot beat a man. What is noticeable to me though is that he has clearly been working on his centring and has put in some brilliant centres so far this season. His crossing is still dire. Put in a belter of a cross which Choupo Moting fucked up. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 15:50:23 GMT
His crossing is still dire. Put in a belter of a cross which Choupo Moting fucked up. He's put a killer cross in in virtually every game this season. You can't blame him if our strikers are rooted to the pitch and watch it go across the face of the goal. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 15:56:36 GMT
He'd be fine as a left sided centre back in a three. We could have saved 11 million quid by signing Kieron Gibbs who is made for a left wing back slot and moving Erik inside. Instead we sign Tymon who looks no where near ready and Wimmer who hasn't exactly suggested he has the ability to be a top level centre half.
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 25, 2017 16:14:08 GMT
His crossing is still dire. Put in a belter of a cross which Choupo Moting fucked up. He did, but he also failed to beat the first man on numerous occasions when in good positions and under no pressure, as did Johnson. |
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