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Post by simple on Oct 22, 2017 13:34:19 GMT
Is this the worse team since we were promoted to the Premiership .We are slower than ever,we cannot defend,we make less chances than ever before,we don't shoot,the players don't seem to know what system they are playing.Someone behind me said it would not be as bad if we knew what the aim of the team was.Since the Christmas of 2016 we have been as bad as any other time in the Prem.Since then the manager as paid 30 million on two midfield players only one plays the other on loan,26 million on two centre halves which 18million was sitting on the bench and 12 million on a forward who does not look interested.Mark Hughes you are responsible for fitness,tactics and signings.Sorry you must go.
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Post by march4 on Oct 22, 2017 13:35:55 GMT
No, but it is the worst management.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 22, 2017 13:36:57 GMT
Is this the worse team since we were promoted to the Premiership .We are slower than ever,we cannot defend,we make less chances than ever before,we don't shoot,the players don't seem to know what system they are playing.Someone behind me said it would not be as bad if we knew what the aim of the team was.Since the Christmas of 2016 we have been as bad as any other time in the Prem.Since then the manager as paid 30 million on two midfield players only one plays the other on loan,26 million on two centre halves which 18million was sitting on the bench and 12 million on a forward who does not look interested.Mark Hughes you are responsible for fitness,tactics and signings.Sorry you must go. He really has fucked us up, how in God's name people are still giving him the benefit of doubt is baffling, he has been taking us backwards for eighteen months and has not got a clue how to put it right. |
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Oct 22, 2017 13:39:17 GMT
Not the worst team, but certainly playing the worst given the talent we have. I think we have the worst balance.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 13:45:31 GMT
Is this the worse team since we were promoted to the Premiership .We are slower than ever,we cannot defend,we make less chances than ever before,we don't shoot,the players don't seem to know what system they are playing.Someone behind me said it would not be as bad if we knew what the aim of the team was.Since the Christmas of 2016 we have been as bad as any other time in the Prem.Since then the manager as paid 30 million on two midfield players only one plays the other on loan,26 million on two centre halves which 18million was sitting on the bench and 12 million on a forward who does not look interested.Mark Hughes you are responsible for fitness,tactics and signings.Sorry you must go. He really has fucked us up, how in God's name people are still giving him the benefit of doubt is baffling, he has been taking us backwards for eighteen months and has not got a clue how to put it right. PL finishes: 12th 11th 13th 14th 13th 9th 9th 9th 13th By what logic has Hughes taken the club backwards? |
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 22, 2017 13:47:24 GMT
In terms of raw talent it's arguably the best! That's the whole tragic mess of this  |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Oct 22, 2017 13:49:51 GMT
Without doubt yes, a good team is greater than the sum of its parts, our current team however is 11 poorly performing individual's
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Oct 22, 2017 13:53:21 GMT
He really has fucked us up, how in God's name people are still giving him the benefit of doubt is baffling, he has been taking us backwards for eighteen months and has not got a clue how to put it right. PL finishes: 12th 11th 13th 14th 13th 9th 9th 9th 13th By what logic has Hughes taken the club backwards? We had over 50m worth of talent on the bench yesterday, and for the first time we are very definitely in a relegation fight. Can we get out of it, heart say yes, head, after yesterday say oh fuck. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 22, 2017 13:59:33 GMT
At least the 2008/09 team had a bit of heart and charisma.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 22, 2017 14:00:23 GMT
He really has fucked us up, how in God's name people are still giving him the benefit of doubt is baffling, he has been taking us backwards for eighteen months and has not got a clue how to put it right. PL finishes: 12th 11th 13th 14th 13th 9th 9th 9th 13th By what logic has Hughes taken the club backwards? If you an not see why then there is no point in discussing it with you. |
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 14:02:02 GMT
PL finishes: 12th 11th 13th 14th 13th 9th 9th 9th 13th By what logic has Hughes taken the club backwards? We had over 50m worth of talent on the bench yesterday, and for the first time we are very definitely in a relegation fight. Can we get out of it, heart say yes, head, after yesterday say oh fuck. In previous seasons under Hughes, including this season, after 9 matches we had the following points: 8 11 12 9 8 He has never made a good start to a season at Stoke, but have we ever seriously looked like being relegated? |
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 22, 2017 14:04:00 GMT
PL finishes: 12th 11th 13th 14th 13th 9th 9th 9th 13th By what logic has Hughes taken the club backwards? We had over 50m worth of talent on the bench yesterday, and for the first time we are very definitely in a relegation fight. Can we get out of it, heart say yes, head, after yesterday say oh fuck. By this logic Hughes has taken us backwards... We didn't have 50 million quids worth of talent on the bench , we had fifty million quids worth of players on the bench We came up and stayed up by signing talent like our Lord , ethers and beattie And signing the talentless berahino, imbula and wimmer , is why we are going down |
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Post by superbojan on Oct 22, 2017 14:04:25 GMT
for passion and commitment it is. The bad management doesnt help either. lots of factors but u have to start with manager.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 14:05:53 GMT
PL finishes: 12th 11th 13th 14th 13th 9th 9th 9th 13th By what logic has Hughes taken the club backwards? If you an not see why then there is no point in discussing it with you. By any statisical measure he has not taken the club backwards. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2017 14:08:52 GMT
Easily.
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Post by stokiekm on Oct 22, 2017 14:08:56 GMT
No. Not even close to being. Stupid question
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Oct 22, 2017 14:09:17 GMT
We had over 50m worth of talent on the bench yesterday, and for the first time we are very definitely in a relegation fight. Can we get out of it, heart say yes, head, after yesterday say oh fuck. In previous seasons under Hughes, including this season, after 9 matches we had the following points: 8 11 12 9 8 He has never made a good start to a season at Stoke, but have we ever seriously looked like being relegated? No, you're right, we have never seriously looked like being relegated. Until now! |
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 22, 2017 14:14:19 GMT
If you an not see why then there is no point in discussing it with you. By any statisical measure he has not taken the club backwards. Stats can be manipulated to suit an argument, eyes dont lie and it has been shocking for 18 months and we are in a real relegation battle as it stands |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Oct 22, 2017 14:14:58 GMT
Even after the criminally bad start we’ve had, if the season finished right at this very moment we still wouldn’t be relegated.
Now there’s a thought.
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 22, 2017 20:37:17 GMT
At least the 2008/09 team had a bit of heart and charisma. EVERY player in a Stoke shirt in 2008/9 knew EXACTLY what was expected of them EVERY time they stepped out onto the pitch. That's the biggest differenc in management for me. I'm not saying we haven't taken massive leaps forward since then, under Sparky especially (when he's on a good streak that is) but there are so many vital lessons 2017/18 SCFC not just could but MUST go back and learn from the 2008/9 lads. And what I wouldn't give for Ryan to get his 2008 body back He still has the heart, he's the biggest link with those days, just wish getting through 90 minutes wasn;t agony so often for him. Always hopeful, but... |
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Post by samba :) on Oct 22, 2017 20:38:47 GMT
In terms of raw talent it's arguably the best! That's the whole tragic mess of this easily the best |
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Post by miggoscfc on Oct 22, 2017 20:41:51 GMT
He really has fucked us up, how in God's name people are still giving him the benefit of doubt is baffling, he has been taking us backwards for eighteen months and has not got a clue how to put it right. PL finishes: 12th 11th 13th 14th 13th 9th 9th 9th 13th By what logic has Hughes taken the club backwards? Do you seriously expect us to finish in a higher position every year ? Just for clarity we finished closer to 8th last season than we did the season before being 4 places worse off in the table so it really means nothing does it. |
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 22, 2017 20:46:30 GMT
In previous seasons under Hughes, including this season, after 9 matches we had the following points: 8 11 12 9 8 He has never made a good start to a season at Stoke, but have we ever seriously looked like being relegated? No, you're right, we have never seriously looked like being relegated. Until now! Ish... remember Tone's final season, when he went into a sustained hissy fit (which I swear is what really happened) after being denied his transfer targets in the January window? We were incredibly lucky to stay up that year, however rough this season is so far we're better than that. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 22, 2017 20:50:05 GMT
No, but it is the worst management. Lots of potential but totally unbalanced and badly motivated / coached. No continuity and no one seems to know what they're supposed to be doing. |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 22, 2017 21:00:06 GMT
The manager has assembled this team and yet he appears intent on playing a system that we just don't have the personnel for...... it's hard to fathom. This definitely isn't the weakest we've had but there are some extremely baffling decisions being made as far as I'm concerned. Hughes is the main problem and our lack of strikers remains a complete mystery given his previous playing career.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 22, 2017 21:02:17 GMT
No, but it is the worst management. Lots of potential but totally unbalanced and badly motivated / coached. No continuity and no one seems to know what they're supposed to be doing. Poorly assembled miss mash of players thrown together with little thought about how they will perform as a unit, look totally unbalanced, unmotivated, uninterested with a clueless manager ala QPR under his tenure. |
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 21:11:50 GMT
Despite three 9th place finishes AND missing 8th place last season by just 2 points people are calling for his head, unbelievable Jeff!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 21:17:00 GMT
Despite three 9th place finishes AND missing 8th place last season by just 2 points people are calling for his head, unbelievable Jeff! Do you go to the games or just look at stats? |
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 21:18:46 GMT
Despite three 9th place finishes AND missing 8th place last season by just 2 points people are calling for his head, unbelievable Jeff! Do you go to the games or just look at stats? Why are the stats different if you attend games? |
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Post by muglump on Oct 22, 2017 21:26:10 GMT
Worst to watch, easily. getting pretty dull and predictable how easy just about anyone tears us up when they put the effort in
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