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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 21, 2017 2:08:46 GMT
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 21, 2017 4:10:24 GMT
Depends on what is classed as a "dive". I agree that players should go down if they feel they've been fouled to force the referee to make a decision.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 21, 2017 4:18:28 GMT
Depends on what is classed as a "dive". I agree that players should go down if they feel they've been fouled to force the referee to make a decision. I would say a dive is going down with no contact to gain a set piece. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 21, 2017 4:23:27 GMT
Depends on what is classed as a "dive". I agree that players should go down if they feel they've been fouled to force the referee to make a decision. I would say a dive is going down with no contact to gain a set piece. Agreed and I hope retrospective action would be taken. But how many times will it get confused with players going down when they feel there's been contact and the referee has called it a dive. It's tough. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 21, 2017 4:31:27 GMT
I would say a dive is going down with no contact to gain a set piece. Agreed and I hope retrospective action would be taken. But how many times will it get confused with players going down when they feel there's been contact and the referee has called it a dive. It's tough. One sign is if a player goes down without contact and appeals for a free kick/penalty. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 21, 2017 4:41:16 GMT
Agreed and I hope retrospective action would be taken. But how many times will it get confused with players going down when they feel there's been contact and the referee has called it a dive. It's tough. One sign is if a player goes down without contact and appeals for a free kick/penalty. I think if it's clearly obvious there's no contact and by how the players arguing for the decision then it should result in a suspension. I still think players will go down either way, but then they just won't call for the refs decision. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 6:45:43 GMT
The onus is on the referees to start giving genuine fouls when players try to stay on their feet and be honest.
If players are regularly rewarded for their attempts to stay on honest then we *might* just see a shift in sands over a longer period of time and it will then become easier to spot.
There is also an onus on the ex professional club to stop trotting out the "he deserves to go down because there was a slight touch" line.
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Post by Northy on Oct 21, 2017 6:50:02 GMT
Im quite surprised its the first, there have been plenty of dives highlighted already, what about the watford player v the arse last week ?
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Post by PB1863 on Oct 21, 2017 7:18:10 GMT
Imagine the outcry from 'the simple one' or 'the Arse' if it happened to one of their players? It won't happen but I hope I'm wrong
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Post by reddipotter on Oct 21, 2017 7:21:14 GMT
The onus is on the referees to start giving genuine fouls when players try to stay on their feet and be honest. If players are regularly rewarded for their attempts to stay on honest then we *might* just see a shift in sands over a longer period of time and it will then become easier to spot. There is also an onus on the ex professional club to stop trotting out the "he deserves to go down because there was a slight touch" line. Exactly. I've been saying this for years. The test of this review system is when a big name player is suspended. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 21, 2017 8:13:21 GMT
Depends on what is classed as a "dive". I agree that players should go down if they feel they've been fouled to force the referee to make a decision. Just watch ali at spurs you will soon work out what diving is Cheating little scrote |
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Post by britvic72 on Oct 21, 2017 8:36:12 GMT
You just know we’ll be the first to have one in the prem. Richarlison got away with it last week
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Post by walrus on Oct 21, 2017 9:16:38 GMT
I dislike diving as much as the next man, but these new rules make no sense to me.
Basically, if you dive and the referee spots it at the time then you get booked. If the referee waves play on you get no punishment at all. But if the referee buys it and gives a foul in your favour you get a two match ban.
That’s three completely different outcomes from exactly the same offence, all of which are legitimate under the new rules?
Bizarre.
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Post by 3putts on Oct 21, 2017 9:39:01 GMT
You just know we’ll be the first to have one in the prem. Richarlison got away with it last week nailed on shaq aint playing today so who will it be? choupo? |
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Post by 3putts on Oct 21, 2017 9:40:09 GMT
were playing the masters at gamesmanship today remember last season? will the ref have the balls?
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 21, 2017 10:24:35 GMT
This rule can be applied even if there was contact. Plenty of players deliberately throw themselves at a defender to make that contact and it's not difficult to see what he's done in video replay footage. For me that's just as bad as diving when there's no contact.
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