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Post by kevkj on Oct 18, 2017 16:01:56 GMT
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 18, 2017 16:10:46 GMT
Well hes a terrible example because he was known for not putting in the effort here at Stoke.
The general point is true - we are one of the least fit teams in the league judging by these stats
- KM covered on the pitch
- Goals in the last 5 minutes of games
But Imbula cannot be used to make the case here. He was just a lazy git who couldnt be bothered
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 18, 2017 16:13:09 GMT
I was amazed at the stat last Saturday that Man City ran 2km more during the game in total
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Post by Davef on Oct 18, 2017 16:14:29 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 18, 2017 16:27:16 GMT
If there was ever a valid reason to write contract clauses that include players trying and integrating into a club then Imbula is it. He's an embarrassment to his profession. I know we've signed some duds over the last ten years but at least most have tried but proven not good enough for PL. That is down to the transfer team but Imbula is different as he is a class player that can't be arsed.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2017 18:13:51 GMT
Its patently obvious when we play teams like Spurs , Arsenal, Man City , united how much better conditioned and athletic they are by comparison. I can accept being beaten by a better team but not because players are fitter . It's very basic stuff ,
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Post by baystokie on Oct 18, 2017 18:54:57 GMT
Its patently obvious when we play teams like Spurs , Arsenal, Man City , united how much better conditioned and athletic they are by comparison. I can accept being beaten by a better team but not because players are fitter . It's very basic stuff , The above perception about other teams is a valid one BUT the stat on 'distances run' seems somewhat irrelevant unless it is linked to a purpose or productive result. What is the point of players running around MORE than the other 19 teams if the end product is LESS than the other 19? |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 18, 2017 19:06:24 GMT
I was amazed at the stat last Saturday that Man City ran 2km more during the game in total Our stat included us chasing shadows |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2017 19:10:20 GMT
Its patently obvious when we play teams like Spurs , Arsenal, Man City , united how much better conditioned and athletic they are by comparison. I can accept being beaten by a better team but not because players are fitter . It's very basic stuff , The above perception about other teams is a valid one BUT the stat on 'distances run' seems somewhat irrelevant unless it is linked to a purpose or productive result. What is the point of players running around MORE than the other 19 teams if the end product is LESS than the other 19? It's a good starting point though mate |
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Post by stokemark on Oct 18, 2017 19:17:32 GMT
Angela Smith hinted at how amateurish our warm down was at Man City during the Knot FM show on Sunday (I think she was aware that she needed to be careful and didn't add much more.
Thought it was interesting
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Post by ohbottom on Oct 18, 2017 19:37:09 GMT
Not to worry, it's just LMH's tradition of gradually winding them up to be stronger later in the season. Possibly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 19:57:24 GMT
"Warm Down" ????
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 20:03:04 GMT
Angela Smith hinted at how amateurish our warm down was at Man City during the Knot FM show on Sunday (I think she was aware that she needed to be careful and didn't add much more. Thought it was interesting Why was it interesting? |
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Post by stokemark on Oct 18, 2017 21:09:33 GMT
Angela Smith hinted at how amateurish our warm down was at Man City during the Knot FM show on Sunday (I think she was aware that she needed to be careful and didn't add much more. Thought it was interesting Why was it interesting? Just the way that she was about to share her concerns about it and then decided it best not to She did say how the process that the man shiitys players were going through was streets ahead of ours but left it at that |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 21:13:55 GMT
Just the way that she was about to share her concerns about it and then decided it best not to She did say how the process that the man shiitys players were going through was streets ahead of ours but left it at that This is about the "warm down"? |
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Post by kustokie on Oct 18, 2017 21:15:49 GMT
I wonder if Imbula just does not like football, even though he’s very, very good at it.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 18, 2017 21:49:42 GMT
Feels that a lot of the work arrd ethic has gone under Hughes and all good teams need it . Tottenham for example are fit and.never stop.
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Post by rawli on Oct 19, 2017 10:09:54 GMT
Look at Barcelona's questionable use of drugs and blood doping to see why peps teams are fit.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 19, 2017 10:40:19 GMT
Just the way that she was about to share her concerns about it and then decided it best not to She did say how the process that the man shiitys players were going through was streets ahead of ours but left it at that This is about the "warm down"? which is equally as important as a warm up in terms of preventing injuries and niggles that seem to put our players out of games all the bloody time |
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Post by duckling on Oct 19, 2017 11:33:58 GMT
Look at Barcelona's questionable use of drugs and blood doping to see why peps teams are fit. I mentioned doping in another thread. I suspect that some of the superhuman fitness is due to, erm, spinach. Let's not forget that Pep himself was caught doping. I believe it was the same substance that Lance Armstrong used. |
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 19, 2017 11:42:16 GMT
Angela Smith hinted at how amateurish our warm down was at Man City during the Knot FM show on Sunday (I think she was aware that she needed to be careful and didn't add much more. Thought it was interesting Clive clarke didn't hold back on the radio last Saturday, he was scathing about our warm down, or to be precise, the lack of any. He said there was about 3 or 4 players just wandered onto the pitch, had a look around and then went back in. He said no matter how humiliating a defeat it is, the basic things like a warm down still need to be done properly. |
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Post by canadianmoose on Oct 19, 2017 12:02:05 GMT
I’m not surprised about this at all. It’s clear that we always look a yard off the pace of the game against many opposing sides. Man city game looked worse because in comparison they looked to be at light speed compared to our laboured efforts.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 19, 2017 12:20:23 GMT
Angela Smith hinted at how amateurish our warm down was at Man City during the Knot FM show on Sunday (I think she was aware that she needed to be careful and didn't add much more. Thought it was interesting Clive clarke didn't hold back on the radio last Saturday, he was scathing about our warm down, or to be precise, the lack of any. He said there was about 3 or 4 players just wandered onto the pitch, had a look around and then went back in. He said no matter how humiliating a defeat it is, the basic things like a warm down still need to be done properly. Newcastle Town do proper warm downs after every game I kid you not , says a lot about Stoke |
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Post by 3putts on Oct 19, 2017 14:56:26 GMT
how do you know what the players do before or after a match? are you questioning their professionalism? i would say the stoke players are as fit as any other players in footall. ut you go ahead and post missleading stats.
have you ever thought we may have told shaq not to run around like headless chicken but to wait for the all to come to him therefore protecting his hamstring and making sure he is saving his energies to use as an attacking force.
this post is an insult to the integrity of players & management at stoke city you should be ashamed.
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Post by redstriper on Oct 19, 2017 15:02:25 GMT
Of course we ran less than city.
A team told to keep its shape is likely to run less than one given attacking freedom. It has no bearing on how fit the players are.
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Post by waffles on Oct 19, 2017 15:08:45 GMT
Look at Barcelona's questionable use of drugs and blood doping to see why peps teams are fit. I mentioned doping in another thread. I suspect that some of the superhuman fitness is due to, erm, spinach. Let's not forget that Pep himself was caught doping. I believe it was the same substance that Lance Armstrong used. Did he, really? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 19, 2017 15:16:48 GMT
Look at Barcelona's questionable use of drugs and blood doping to see why peps teams are fit. I mentioned doping in another thread. I suspect that some of the superhuman fitness is due to, erm, spinach. Let's not forget that Pep himself was caught doping. I believe it was the same substance that Lance Armstrong used. He was cleared wasn't he? |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 19, 2017 15:38:04 GMT
Its patently obvious when we play teams like Spurs , Arsenal, Man City , united how much better conditioned and athletic they are by comparison. I can accept being beaten by a better team but not because players are fitter . It's very basic stuff , The above perception about other teams is a valid one BUT the stat on 'distances run' seems somewhat irrelevant unless it is linked to a purpose or productive result. What is the point of players running around MORE than the other 19 teams if the end product is LESS than the other 19? Running around more means there was higher intensity, more closing down in defence and more players getting forward to attack. Its not rocket science. Football is a mixture of skill and athleticism Barcelona dont just stand around - they press high and get forward and back quickly |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 19, 2017 15:38:55 GMT
Of course we ran less than city. A team told to keep its shape is likely to run less than one given attacking freedom. It has no bearing on how fit the players are. Why did we keep our shape🤔and if so what shape was it? |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 19, 2017 15:42:45 GMT
Of course we ran less than city. A team told to keep its shape is likely to run less than one given attacking freedom. It has no bearing on how fit the players are. You mean that shape we kept with all the holes in defence? Known as "The Sieve" in modern footballing tactics rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright |
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