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Post by bathstoke on Oct 26, 2019 11:06:06 GMT
A vision of the future horrors of a post Brexit Tory Government, trick. The only reason you take rights out of guaranteed legislation is if you want to reduce them not increase them. Johnson's deal is a blueprint for deregulation and should be opposed at every single turn. "opposed at every single turn" except at a general election eh comrade? If they’re saying that a GE is the only way to get through the Referendum result, what does that say about democracy. If another vote is needed to resolve the Referendum conundrum then PV it is. Their PM stood down, they had a stand in PM then an election. Their PM stood down, now they’ve got another stand in PM. How many elections do they want...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 26, 2019 11:06:23 GMT
A vision of the future horrors of a post Brexit Tory Government, trick. The only reason you take rights out of guaranteed legislation is if you want to reduce them not increase them. Johnson's deal is a blueprint for deregulation and should be opposed at every single turn. Momo this has nothing to do with Boris Johnson. Johnson was a member of the cabinet of the Government which passed the pernicious Trade Union Act. "If we get outside the EU, if we leave the EU system, we will be relieved of a huge amount of unnecessary regulation that is holding this country back" Johnson 2016. The boke is a twat and has conned turkey into voting for Christmas. Idiots
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 26, 2019 11:08:34 GMT
"opposed at every single turn" except at a general election eh comrade? If they’re saying that a GE is the only way to get through the Referendum result, what does that say about democracy. If another vote is needed to resolve the Referendum conundrum then PV it is. Their PM stood down, they had a stand in PM then an election. Their PM stood down, now they’ve got another stand in PM. How many elections do they want... Can I have that in English?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 26, 2019 11:12:14 GMT
Momo this has nothing to do with Boris Johnson. Johnson was a member of the cabinet of the Government which passed the pernicious Trade Union Act. "If we get outside the EU, if we leave the EU system, we will be relieved of a huge amount of unnecessary regulation that is holding this country back" Johnson 2016. The boke is a twat and has conned turkey into voting for Christmas. Idiots So you're saying that horrible Tory Trade Union Act must have been permissible under EU law. Interesting point Momo. Hey, I've got a great idea, win an election and write your own Trade Union Act.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 26, 2019 11:21:31 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 26, 2019 11:27:32 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 26, 2019 11:34:09 GMT
If they’re saying that a GE is the only way to get through the Referendum result, what does that say about democracy. If another vote is needed to resolve the Referendum conundrum then PV it is. Their PM stood down, they had a stand in PM then an election. Their PM stood down, now they’ve got another stand in PM. How many elections do they want... Can I have that in English? Try this, the Tory’s have been infighting for 40yrs over the EU. They’ve killed off their last 4 PM’s over it. You wouldn’t trust an alcoholic with a bottle of gin. Why would you trust the Tory’s with Brexit. It’s not their fault, they’re sick! People’s Vote it is🗳
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 26, 2019 11:38:20 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 26, 2019 12:13:52 GMT
There’s loads of skeletons in Tory closets, but their ghosts roam free. Beware 31st Oct☠️👻
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 26, 2019 22:22:59 GMT
Yep. Nothing in there confirms the Conservative's are going to "slash" workers rights.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 27, 2019 7:58:25 GMT
Yep. Nothing in there confirms the Conservative's are going to "slash" workers rights. It’s in their DNA to do so 🧬
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 27, 2019 8:22:41 GMT
Yep. Nothing in there confirms the Conservative's are going to "slash" workers rights. Ahhh that's sweet dodge /photo/1
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 27, 2019 8:27:13 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 27, 2019 11:35:41 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 27, 2019 12:35:24 GMT
Not really after this from the actual author who (after he's let the headline run) admits his story doesn't actually prove fuck all.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 27, 2019 12:44:25 GMT
Not really after this from the actual author who (after he's let the headline run) admits his story doesn't actually prove fuck all. James says they will protect workers rights, why wouldn't you trust James?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 27, 2019 12:54:09 GMT
Not really after this from the actual author who (after he's let the headline run) admits his story doesn't actually prove fuck all. James says they will protect workers rights, why wouldn't you trust James? You're welcome. James Cleverly votes to increase minimum wage
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 27, 2019 13:33:17 GMT
Not really after this from the actual author who (after he's let the headline run) admits his story doesn't actually prove fuck all. You're really putting up the fact that he voted for a wicked austerity inflicting budget as proof he gives a fuck about workers rights or pay!? 😁
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 27, 2019 13:42:28 GMT
Not really after this from the actual author who (after he's let the headline run) admits his story doesn't actually prove fuck all. You're really putting up the fact that he voted for a wicked austerity inflicting budget as proof he gives a fuck about workers rights or pay!? 😁 The 'leaked' document doesn't prove any chin dribble that "Boris wants to slash workers rights!" It just doesn't prove that. It re-states the Government's position that they want the flexibility to diverge from EU 'level playing field' areas in the future. Doesn't mean regress, doesn't mean lower standards, it just means diverge. I've already stated that the EU's rights for workers are lower than the UK's. You and Bath keep coughing up the knee jerk "TORIES ARE BAD" mantra and posting daft memes and I'll crack on with facts. James Cleverly voted 11 times to raise the threshold at which people start to pay income tax
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 27, 2019 13:50:31 GMT
You're really putting up the fact that he voted for a wicked austerity inflicting budget as proof he gives a fuck about workers rights or pay!? 😁 The 'leaked' document doesn't prove any chin dribble that "Boris wants to slash workers rights!" It just doesn't prove that. It re-states the Government's position that they want the flexibility to diverge from EU 'level playing field' areas in the future. Doesn't mean regress, doesn't mean lower standards, it just means diverge. I've already stated that the EU's rights for workers are lower than the UK's. You and Bath keep coughing up the knee jerk "TORIES ARE BAD" mantra and posting daft memes and I'll crack on with facts. James Cleverly voted 11 times to raise the threshold at which people start to pay income taxBollocks! He has the blood of austerity on his hands. You honestly believe their absolute insistence on divergance is because they want to increase rights? Jesus wept. Its they key cog in the ERG dream of creating a rights free Singapore on Thames.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 27, 2019 13:55:42 GMT
The 'leaked' document doesn't prove any chin dribble that "Boris wants to slash workers rights!" It just doesn't prove that. It re-states the Government's position that they want the flexibility to diverge from EU 'level playing field' areas in the future. Doesn't mean regress, doesn't mean lower standards, it just means diverge. I've already stated that the EU's rights for workers are lower than the UK's. You and Bath keep coughing up the knee jerk "TORIES ARE BAD" mantra and posting daft memes and I'll crack on with facts. James Cleverly voted 11 times to raise the threshold at which people start to pay income taxBollocks! He has the blood of austerity on his hands. You honestly believe their absolute insistence on divergance is because they want to increase rights? Jesus wept. Its they key cog in the ERG dream of creating a rights free Singapore on Thames. Ah, the old '120,000 deaths under Tory austerity' myth. An old favourite. Here you go. Sorry more facts I'm afraid ... Debunking the spurious stats behind ‘austerity kills’ Singapore, higher GDP, better health service and better education service. Where do I sign? And before you start talking about a bad human rights record that's one thing I wouldn't copy from Singapore. You know, because I've actually got a brain and can pick out the bad bits.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 27, 2019 14:02:36 GMT
Anyway. I'm off to the pub.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 27, 2019 14:16:49 GMT
Bollocks! He has the blood of austerity on his hands. You honestly believe their absolute insistence on divergance is because they want to increase rights? Jesus wept. Its they key cog in the ERG dream of creating a rights free Singapore on Thames. Ah, the old '120,000 deaths under Tory austerity' myth. An old favourite. Here you go. Sorry more facts I'm afraid ... Debunking the spurious stats behind ‘austerity kills’ Singapore, higher GDP, better health service and better education service. Where do I sign? And before you start talking about a bad human rights record that's one thing I wouldn't copy from Singapore. You know, because I've actually got a brain and can pick out the bad bits. £@#&!n’e!!, it’s like watching tennis with you two. Just because you’ve found a link to someone who agrees with you Rog, doesn’t make it a fact. You can find links to ‘Flatearther” sites, it means nothing. Have you seen the homeless & the foodbanks. Don’t cheapen your argument by citing spurious sites. & ffs, Singapore! It’s got a population of 5m! If a country awash with secret money can’t pay for decent healthcare for so few people they’d be worse than we thought... C- Must try harder
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 27, 2019 23:10:36 GMT
Ah, the old '120,000 deaths under Tory austerity' myth. An old favourite. Here you go. Sorry more facts I'm afraid ... Debunking the spurious stats behind ‘austerity kills’ Singapore, higher GDP, better health service and better education service. Where do I sign? And before you start talking about a bad human rights record that's one thing I wouldn't copy from Singapore. You know, because I've actually got a brain and can pick out the bad bits. £@#&!n’e!!, it’s like watching tennis with you two. Just because you’ve found a link to someone who agrees with you Rog, doesn’t make it a fact. You can find links to ‘Flatearther” sites, it means nothing. Have you seen the homeless & the foodbanks. Don’t cheapen your argument by citing spurious sites. & ffs, Singapore! It’s got a population of 5m! If a country awash with secret money can’t pay for decent healthcare for so few people they’d be worse than we thought... C- Must try harder Facts make it a fact. I get it, you don't want to agree with the CapX article but that doesn't make it untrue. Contact the author. Ask him about his methodology. Ask him about his research. I'd be interested to read what he replies to you. Yes I've seen homeless people. Does Monkey Dust and Spice ring any bells? What's your evidence that homelessness is some kind of Conservative policy? My brother-in-law works in a foodbank and they hand out boxes to anyone. There is no checking of need or ID, they have more food donations then they know what to do with. Again, do some research and find out that Yvette Cooper was suppressing homeless numbers to make a Labour Government look better. It was Ian Duncan Smith who officially allowed benefit claimants access to foodbanks. If Singapore is so insignificant why do Corbyn and Verhofstadt et al always use it as some kind of bad example? I'll look forward to you criticising Agent COB the next time he reels off that "race to the bottom, Singapore on Thames" bullshit.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 28, 2019 9:31:51 GMT
£@#&!n’e!!, it’s like watching tennis with you two. Just because you’ve found a link to someone who agrees with you Rog, doesn’t make it a fact. You can find links to ‘Flatearther” sites, it means nothing. Have you seen the homeless & the foodbanks. Don’t cheapen your argument by citing spurious sites. & ffs, Singapore! It’s got a population of 5m! If a country awash with secret money can’t pay for decent healthcare for so few people they’d be worse than we thought... C- Must try harder Facts make it a fact. I get it, you don't want to agree with the CapX article but that doesn't make it untrue. Contact the author. Ask him about his methodology. Ask him about his research. I'd be interested to read what he replies to you. Yes I've seen homeless people. Does Monkey Dust and Spice ring any bells? What's your evidence that homelessness is some kind of Conservative policy? My brother-in-law works in a foodbank and they hand out boxes to anyone. There is no checking of need or ID, they have more food donations then they know what to do with. Again, do some research and find out that Yvette Cooper was suppressing homeless numbers to make a Labour Government look better. It was Ian Duncan Smith who officially allowed benefit claimants access to foodbanks. If Singapore is so insignificant why do Corbyn and Verhofstadt et al always use it as some kind of bad example? I'll look forward to you criticising Agent COB the next time he reels off that "race to the bottom, Singapore on Thames" bullshit. There are many organisations fronting foodbanks(I’m also aware that in SOT they have uniformbanks for kids)& they all have their own policies. My wife gives out vouchers in her role. “IBS officially allowed benefit claimants access to foodbanks.” No, as part of his complete fiasco that is’Welfare Reform’(a fiasco that is still falling apart & is unsustainable(we’d have been monetarily better off if he had never bothered(which is why he resigned like a rat leaving a sinking ship)))he jumped onto Cameron’s big society spin & encouraged them. It’s a bit like warmongers applauding the work of the Red Cross/Crescent. I bet you & your brother in law get on like a house on fire...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 28, 2019 9:35:38 GMT
Bollocks! He has the blood of austerity on his hands. You honestly believe their absolute insistence on divergance is because they want to increase rights? Jesus wept. Its they key cog in the ERG dream of creating a rights free Singapore on Thames. Ah, the old '120,000 deaths under Tory austerity' myth. An old favourite. Here you go. Sorry more facts I'm afraid ... Debunking the spurious stats behind ‘austerity kills’ Singapore, higher GDP, better health service and better education service. Where do I sign? And before you start talking about a bad human rights record that's one thing I wouldn't copy from Singapore. You know, because I've actually got a brain and can pick out the bad bits. Dreadful human rights and abusive working practices. Of course dodger admires Singapore.....like most Tories.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 28, 2019 9:44:30 GMT
Facts make it a fact. I get it, you don't want to agree with the CapX article but that doesn't make it untrue. Contact the author. Ask him about his methodology. Ask him about his research. I'd be interested to read what he replies to you. Yes I've seen homeless people. Does Monkey Dust and Spice ring any bells? What's your evidence that homelessness is some kind of Conservative policy? My brother-in-law works in a foodbank and they hand out boxes to anyone. There is no checking of need or ID, they have more food donations then they know what to do with. Again, do some research and find out that Yvette Cooper was suppressing homeless numbers to make a Labour Government look better. It was Ian Duncan Smith who officially allowed benefit claimants access to foodbanks. If Singapore is so insignificant why do Corbyn and Verhofstadt et al always use it as some kind of bad example? I'll look forward to you criticising Agent COB the next time he reels off that "race to the bottom, Singapore on Thames" bullshit. There are many organisations fronting foodbanks(I’m also aware that in SOT they have uniformbanks for kids)& they all have their own policies. My wife gives out vouchers in her role. “IBS officially allowed benefit claimants access to foodbanks.” No, as part of his complete fiasco that is’Welfare Reform’(a fiasco that is still falling apart & is unsustainable(we’d have been monetarily better off if he had never bothered(which is why he resigned like a rat leaving a sinking ship)))he jumped onto Cameron’s big society spin & encouraged them. It’s a bit like warmongers applauding the work of the Red Cross/Crescent. I bet you & your brother in law get on like a house on fire... Iain Duncan Smith lifted a ban imposed by Labour in 2008. Here are some more awkward facts for you from the Chief Executive of the Trussell Trust. "In the early days of foodbanks we had local arrangements with Job Centres. The ban on Department of Work and Pensions staff from issuing vouchers came in just before Christmas in 2008. It meant extra hassle and extra obstacle for those getting help. They could still get hold of vouchers from other places like Citizens Advice Bureaus but it was harder for them. The reason for the ban given was equity. The DWP said that as there wasn't a foodbank everywhere they wouldn't refer anyone to a foodbank as we didn't have one in every town. On the same basis they stopped giving details of Salvation Army hostels. They also said it wasn't there job to help people as they were an eligibility service not a social service. But they were the ones responsible who made the decisions. They knew if someone's benefit was being delayed. It was a disagreement we had with the Labour Government. We thought it was just plain good sense to issue a voucher if it was needed. We had a campaign against the ban. It was very, very helpful to us that Iain Duncan Smith lifted the ban even though it was against the wishes of officials in the DWP."Yvette Cooper should apologise for blocking access to foodbanks
Funnily enough my brother in law suddenly finds his shoelaces interesting when I ask how he knows the recipients are genuine. There's a list somewhere but nobody uses it is all he's offered so far.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 28, 2019 9:48:46 GMT
Ah, the old '120,000 deaths under Tory austerity' myth. An old favourite. Here you go. Sorry more facts I'm afraid ... Debunking the spurious stats behind ‘austerity kills’ Singapore, higher GDP, better health service and better education service. Where do I sign? And before you start talking about a bad human rights record that's one thing I wouldn't copy from Singapore. You know, because I've actually got a brain and can pick out the bad bits. Dreadful human rights and abusive working practices. Of course dodger admires Singapore.....like most Tories. Get the Tories out innit!!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 29, 2019 8:22:28 GMT
About sums it up
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 12:55:18 GMT
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