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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 16, 2017 16:03:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 16:27:52 GMT
How much is the MANAGER
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 16:35:30 GMT
Handy for the Oatcake shop on The A34....And for the Cherry Tree...
EDIT....Ohhh...The pretend Newcastle
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Post by Boothen on Oct 16, 2017 16:36:27 GMT
Who do you reckon will buy it, a dirty Arab, a Russian criminal or a corrupt Chinaman?
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Post by stokiesteve on Oct 16, 2017 16:38:31 GMT
Good time to sell. They have made a better than expected start to the season and have an excellent manager.
Could well be too much to resist for a billionaire oil baron.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 16, 2017 16:47:48 GMT
Who do you reckon will buy it, a dirty Arab, a Russian criminal or a corrupt Chinaman? Or an American investment firm |
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Post by spiderpuss on Oct 16, 2017 16:53:11 GMT
It wont be somebody who has a scooby about the Premiership.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 17:07:03 GMT
Who do you reckon will buy it, a dirty Arab, a Russian criminal or a corrupt Chinaman? "The Chinese". |
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 16, 2017 17:16:16 GMT
I go for the Arabs this time - they will get confused by "Geordie Shore" and think it is a nice sunny seaside spot!
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Oct 16, 2017 17:19:48 GMT
Who do you reckon will buy it, a dirty Arab, a Russian criminal or a corrupt Chinaman? "The Chinese".  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 17:24:44 GMT
Not sure what is more difficult to understand. Geordie or Cantonese. |
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Post by sportsman on Oct 16, 2017 17:26:04 GMT
It wont be somebody who has a scooby about the Premiership. It also won't be someone like who owns citeh. Short notice, and anyone wanting to make top 4 now from Newcastle's position would have to spend about 400m on the squad to even get close. For one it can't be done over a season, so the investment would have to keep on going year in, year out. Like everton, it's getting to the stage where it's pointless trying to compete. You could throw 100's of millions and not get close. Then you've got ffp. Ashley has already said they can only spend under him what's coming into the club. Looking at what they've spent it's not a lot, so how can someone come in under ffp and spend 400m on players to even try make top 6? Going be fun |
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Post by wuzza on Oct 16, 2017 17:58:30 GMT
Another likely foreign owner of a PL club combined with the fact that half a dozen of the clubs best positioned to come up are also foreign owned just spells another nail in the coffin of the game in this country I'm afraid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 18:39:00 GMT
The North Koreans could buy it and use that eyesore of a statue The Angel of the North as target practice.
Or the Americans could buy it and torture suspects with altitude sickness in the away fans section.
Selling now though with the TV money could be Shear er madness....got me mac....gone
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Post by callas12 on Oct 16, 2017 18:55:16 GMT
Saw it mentioned a few weeks ago that Amanda Staveley (Prince Andrews ex) was up at St James Park (May have been match v ourselves) and on the verge of taking over.. She's meant to be minted & had some part in the take over process at Man City so is very well connected.. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 16, 2017 19:33:52 GMT
City centre stadium.
Kerching ££££
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 16, 2017 20:02:47 GMT
Handy for the Oatcake shop on The A34....And for the Cherry Tree... EDIT....Ohhh...The pretend Newcastle Let's not forget the Castle Mona  |
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Post by kustokie on Oct 17, 2017 1:45:28 GMT
Ashley bought them for about 100 million, and put about 300 million into the club to get them back into the PL. Now he is asking 380 million to break roughly even, which is not exactly a great business deal, but understandable when you consider he doesn’t (in his opinion) have the kind of money needed to make Newcastle a top 10 premier league team. That should be quite a wake up call for teams like Stoke who aspire to be a mid-table team who can compete in both cups and hope to qualify for the Europa League.
This set me thinking: the only way to level the playing field is for all the PL teams to be funded by foreign investors, who have the cash to build 50,000+ seat state of the art-of-stadiums, training facilities and compete for the top players. However, that rules out teams like Stoke, Leicester, Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Watford, etc. because they don’t have the “name” or the fan base. Furthermore, no-one is going to take a risk that their money can be gone in less than 12 months if their team gets relegated - all but about 3 teams in the Championship were once successful first division/PL teams who have never made it back and some like Leeds, Derby, and Forest were European Champions. It’s a brave new world and I don’t like it very much.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 17, 2017 1:52:36 GMT
It wont be somebody who has a scooby about the Premiership. It also won't be someone like who owns citeh. Short notice, and anyone wanting to make top 4 now from Newcastle's position would have to spend about 400m on the squad to even get close. For one it can't be done over a season, so the investment would have to keep on going year in, year out. Like everton, it's getting to the stage where it's pointless trying to compete. You could throw 100's of millions and not get close. Then you've got ffp. Ashley has already said they can only spend under him what's coming into the club. Looking at what they've spent it's not a lot, so how can someone come in under ffp and spend 400m on players to even try make top 6? Going be fun It is relatively easy for big investors to work around the ffp rules because sponsorship (like BET365,Emirates, Ethiad, Chevrolet, etc.), which comes from the companies’ advertising budget counts as income. Anyone who thinks the funding for Stoke comes out of the goodness of Peter Coates’ heart doesn’t understand business. |
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Post by flea79 on Oct 17, 2017 8:19:53 GMT
It also won't be someone like who owns citeh. Short notice, and anyone wanting to make top 4 now from Newcastle's position would have to spend about 400m on the squad to even get close. For one it can't be done over a season, so the investment would have to keep on going year in, year out. Like everton, it's getting to the stage where it's pointless trying to compete. You could throw 100's of millions and not get close. Then you've got ffp. Ashley has already said they can only spend under him what's coming into the club. Looking at what they've spent it's not a lot, so how can someone come in under ffp and spend 400m on players to even try make top 6? Going be fun It is relatively easy for big investors to work around the ffp rules because sponsorship (like BET365,Emirates, Ethiad, Chevrolet, etc.), which comes from the companies’ advertising budget counts as income. Anyone who thinks the funding for Stoke comes out of the goodness of Peter Coates’ heart doesn’t understand business. good post we followed the Man City route and our chairman sold the naming rights to the stadium to himself basically, it gets around the FFP rules, but somewhere some legal types are getting very rich looking for these loop holes |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 17, 2017 10:29:02 GMT
I'd say Newcastle are probably the most attractive club available at a reasonable price to a seriously rich investor who wants to push for the Champions League. They are currently mid table with a good manager who has bags of experience. They have a 52K stadium which they come close to filling most weeks and which can be expanded to about 60K by developing the one side they are allowed to develop - the 4th side has the insurmountable problem of a listed Georgian building close to it and that side can't be developed.
Most of the other clubs in the Premier League or at the top of the Championship would either cost many hundreds of £millions more or need new stadiums to be built or massive expansion to reach 60K capacity - which seems to be par for the course for clubs which want to reach the top 4 on a regular basis.
As a poster above says, any new owner would need to spend around £400 million to get a Champions League squad but, given the comparatively low cost of the club and the already large stadium, £400 million on squad development is an affordable option to the right owner.
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Post by thisfish on Oct 17, 2017 11:13:16 GMT
It wont be somebody who has a scooby about the Premiership. It also won't be someone like who owns citeh. Short notice, and anyone wanting to make top 4 now from Newcastle's position would have to spend about 400m on the squad to even get close. For one it can't be done over a season, so the investment would have to keep on going year in, year out. Like everton, it's getting to the stage where it's pointless trying to compete. You could throw 100's of millions and not get close. Then you've got ffp. Ashley has already said they can only spend under him what's coming into the club. Looking at what they've spent it's not a lot, so how can someone come in under ffp and spend 400m on players to even try make top 6? Going be fun New investors won't suddenly propel us into the group of sides consistently challenging for the title. Even if it was some Saudi prince, the costs would be ridiculous and unsustainable, as you say. Think most Geordies are just hoping for an owner who has ambitions beyond a Premier League advertising board for their chav-tat store. We've got the stadium, the fanbase and a top manager, so we've a headstart on the other clubs outside that top bracket, but we're so far behind them in terms of playing staff it's embarrassing. Personally the best I think we can hope for is to swell the group at the top from 6/7 to 7/8, but remain very much as a side aiming for Europa league spots and competing in the cups. We can't hope to compete with Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd or Spurs for the league title. but if we can consistently compete with Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton for the scraps we'd be doing well. What's most likely is that we establish ourselves as a Premier League side and that's about it. Benitez at the helm we can certainly prove difficult to beat, improve our youth system, go for cups, and actually take pride in our sides for a change. Still, I'd rather that than Ashley's model; gambling on modest spending on cheap foreign players keeping us in the top flight. A gamble that's twice failed under his rule. |
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Post by duckling on Oct 17, 2017 12:08:56 GMT
When I heard the news, my reaction was that Ashley is saying this to quell the fans and keep Rafa from jumping ship to West Ham. Then in a few months he'll announce that no one has been willing to pay his price and agree to his terms.
Probably too cynical, but I don't trust anything Ashley says.
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Post by thisfish on Oct 17, 2017 13:10:35 GMT
When I heard the news, my reaction was that Ashley is saying this to quell the fans and keep Rafa from jumping ship to West Ham. Then in a few months he'll announce that no one has been willing to pay his price and agree to his terms. Probably too cynical, but I don't trust anything Ashley says. Nobody does mate. He's a proven liar. |
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Oct 17, 2017 13:30:17 GMT
It's a shame probabily going be foreign owned another one
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 17:51:51 GMT
Hope they end up in the brown stuff. If you get my drift?
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Post by metalhead on Oct 17, 2017 17:58:18 GMT
It wont be somebody who has a scooby about the Premiership. "I am very proud to be errrr, Newcastle new chairman. I grown up watching BEE PEE ELL futbol, and I cannot wait to watch Newcastle win errr the superbowl. Thank you" |
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Post by 3putts on Oct 17, 2017 18:42:58 GMT
Ashley bought them for about 100 million, and put about 300 million into the club to get them back into the PL. Now he is asking 380 million to break roughly even, which is not exactly a great business deal, but understandable when you consider he doesn’t (in his opinion) have the kind of money needed to make Newcastle a top 10 premier league team. That should be quite a wake up call for teams like Stoke who aspire to be a mid-table team who can compete in both cups and hope to qualify for the Europa League. This set me thinking: the only way to level the playing field is for all the PL teams to be funded by foreign investors, who have the cash to build 50,000+ seat state of the art-of-stadiums, training facilities and compete for the top players. However, that rules out teams like Stoke, Leicester, Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Watford, etc. because they don’t have the “name” or the fan base. Furthermore, no-one is going to take a risk that their money can be gone in less than 12 months if their team gets relegated - all but about 3 teams in the Championship were once successful first division/PL teams who have never made it back and some like Leeds, Derby, and Forest were European Champions. It’s a brave new world and I don’t like it very much. no lets fuck all foreign owners out of the prem league |
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Post by 36dd on Oct 17, 2017 22:24:49 GMT
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Post by kustokie on Oct 17, 2017 23:33:11 GMT
Ashley bought them for about 100 million, and put about 300 million into the club to get them back into the PL. Now he is asking 380 million to break roughly even, which is not exactly a great business deal, but understandable when you consider he doesn’t (in his opinion) have the kind of money needed to make Newcastle a top 10 premier league team. That should be quite a wake up call for teams like Stoke who aspire to be a mid-table team who can compete in both cups and hope to qualify for the Europa League. This set me thinking: the only way to level the playing field is for all the PL teams to be funded by foreign investors, who have the cash to build 50,000+ seat state of the art-of-stadiums, training facilities and compete for the top players. However, that rules out teams like Stoke, Leicester, Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Watford, etc. because they don’t have the “name” or the fan base. Furthermore, no-one is going to take a risk that their money can be gone in less than 12 months if their team gets relegated - all but about 3 teams in the Championship were once successful first division/PL teams who have never made it back and some like Leeds, Derby, and Forest were European Champions. It’s a brave new world and I don’t like it very much. no lets fuck all foreign owners out of the prem league That would level the playing field (pun intended) too. However, loss of foreign investment would cause the standard of player on display to plummet. Just like Brexit will cause the UK economy to shrink significantly with losses in jobs, wages, standard of living etc. |
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