dress it as u want to

[davejohnno1]

Oct 15, 2017 14:48:35 GMT @theloony1 said:

It could quite easily have been 8,9 or even 10 yesterday.

This is the first big dicking we've had in recent times, but there are plenty if not far too many four nillers under our belt.

Also let's not forget they took there foot off the gas at 3 nil but still had 86% possession in the first half.

The concern is on so many levels.

1. Butland and Shaq our two best players will not want to be part of this for much longer. Why would they?

2. How can you attract players? We never win anything and are okay, unless we play top six, then we are utter wank.

3. Those good pedigree players we have / did attract (Bojan, Imbula, Sobhi, Wimmer, Berahino, Jese, Allen, Choupo) looked / look miles short of what we expected. Add to that the lesser players of Muniesa, Joselu, Wolscheid, Hauguard etc who never did much / aren't doing anything then you have yourself a pretty woeful transfer strategy.

4. We have a manager who is clueless, absolutely clueless when it comes to:

1. Buying decent defenders
2. Having a team with defensive shape
3. Doing something about it

All in all we are a club going nowhere that is less attractive to players than when Pulis was here in my opinion. There is only one way for us and it ain't up. Might not be this season but it's coming as long as Hughes remains.

Darren Fletcher would disagree with you!

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Let's face it, Fletcher hasn't looked that good in the last couple of games!

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Oct 15, 2017 9:28:03 GMT mrcoke said:

I like to dress it as a more positive thread.
We were given a lesson, or more like master class, by a world class side, who finished 3rd last season and have just spent another £220 million. Hopefully we won't sweep it under the carpet but learn from it and recognise that the loyal supporters who went along deserve better for the rest of the season. If they* don't learn, then we can expect the club to go the way Sunderland did after their thrashing at Southampton.  (*Players, manager, staff, owners)

I still think we can quickly get into the top half of the table, depending on how other results go. WBA are sitting 10th with 1 more point and have only played one match against a top 6 club, a loss against Arsenal. They will soon be dropping points. Newcastle and Huddersfield are sitting either side of them, having played most of their matches against bottom half of the table teams, whereas we have only played 2 games against teams in the bottom half of the table.

We lost by 5 goals to ManC, but then so did Liverpool. We have doubled ManC goals conceded this season and ManU have only concede 2 so far, both to Stoke. That's 4 goals against the top 2 sides, who have only conceded 6 goals in 16 matches. Posters complain about the lack of a goal scorer, but we have scored more goals than Burnley in 7th place.

For goodness sake, Watford lost by 6 goals to ManC and are sitting 4th in the table. LET'S BE POSITIVE,  we have a good team who have had a very tough start to the season and picked up 8 points in 8 matches, which a lot of the whingers said we couldn't, and done it despite injury disruptions to the team. As we go into a run of winnable games we need to get behind the team.

Is MrCoke your name or what you are sniffing?

If we can't put a defence together that plays in front of a quality keeper capable of conceding less than 4 goals against anyone then we would do better to go down a league.

Kurt Zouma showed the attitude we want, he was distraught as should every single one of our team and fans be.