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Post by chrisparker on Oct 1, 2017 15:23:49 GMT
Interestingly this (along with the 2014/15) has been our best start to a premier league season. Both cases we had 8 points from 7 games but we've had far more difficult fixtures this time around, especially at home.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Oct 1, 2017 15:26:04 GMT
Interestingly this (along with the 2014/15) has been our best start to a premier league season. Both cases we had 8 points from 7 games but we've had far more difficult fixtures this time around, especially at home. Nothing but 7th will do from here on in then.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 1, 2017 16:17:58 GMT
Interestingly this (along with the 2014/15) has been our best start to a premier league season. Both cases we had 8 points from 7 games but we've had far more difficult fixtures this time around, especially at home. Nothing but 7th will do from here on in then. Why not? Everton are poor this season. Could be our year!
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Post by hanibal7 on Oct 1, 2017 16:19:51 GMT
Our Hughes haters wouldn't know that, they are like a gramaphone record.
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Post by djduncanjames on Oct 1, 2017 16:21:56 GMT
Our Hughes haters wouldn't know that, they are like a gramaphone record. Hey hey! NO bad-talking the vinyls!
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Post by djduncanjames on Oct 1, 2017 16:24:45 GMT
My only real worry is Shaqiri getting injured this season, it's obvious he is literally our main lynch-pin now. Only player capable of that free role is Bojan really.
Hope he holds up, Suppose Jese or Choupo could do it with Ramadan out wide
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 1, 2017 16:27:48 GMT
Interestingly this (along with the 2014/15) has been our best start to a premier league season. Both cases we had 8 points from 7 games but we've had far more difficult fixtures this time around, especially at home. Hang on. I thought we were already relegated?
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Post by wuzza on Oct 1, 2017 16:28:34 GMT
My only real worry is Shaqiri getting injured this season, it's obvious he is literally our main lynch-pin now. Only player capable of that free role is Bojan really. Hope he holds up, Suppose Jese or Choupo could do it with Ramadan out wide Agree with this - everything looks a bit one dimensional going forward without Shaq being able to throw in a bit of magic here and there. Need to wrap him in cotton wool.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 1, 2017 16:30:26 GMT
We're doing ok. Cup debacle apart, it's actually been a pretty solid and positive start to the season.
Any non-Stoke fan will tell you that as well. I don't know why we put ourselves down so much.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 1, 2017 16:34:59 GMT
We're doing ok. Cup debacle apart, it's actually been a pretty solid and positive start to the season. Any non-Stoke fan will tell you that as well. I don't know why we put ourselves down so much. We get down on our team because they are the ultimate prick-teasers. We play well, draw with the Shit and beat the Arse. Then just when we think we have a chance of doing something we lose to Toon and Bristol Titty. It has always thus. Except in 1972.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 1, 2017 16:38:07 GMT
My only real worry is Shaqiri getting injured this season, it's obvious he is literally our main lynch-pin now. Only player capable of that free role is Bojan really. Hope he holds up, Suppose Jese or Choupo could do it with Ramadan out wide Don't rule out Charlie Adam or Affelay!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2017 17:15:42 GMT
We're doing ok. Cup debacle apart, it's actually been a pretty solid and positive start to the season. Any non-Stoke fan will tell you that as well. I don't know why we put ourselves down so much. Well said. When you factor everything in together; like the poor football for the last 18 months previous, the change in system, the change in backline personnel, the ridiculously hard start, the virtual negative net spend then we've done exceptionally well. The manager is using his squad superbly and is performing well.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Oct 2, 2017 11:03:03 GMT
If we playing 3 at back, with 2 Wing backs who assist the defense as soon as opposition get the ball but who should assist the three midfielders when we have the ball then why are we not playing 2 up front? We wont score many with one up from and 5 across the middle is more than enough, any more and they just get lost or get in the way.
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Post by Gods on Oct 2, 2017 11:04:12 GMT
Tallest dwarf contest!
Joking folks, we are ahead of where I thought we'd be although I didn't see the League Cup debacle coming.
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Oct 2, 2017 11:28:26 GMT
We're doing ok. Cup debacle apart, it's actually been a pretty solid and positive start to the season. Any non-Stoke fan will tell you that as well. I don't know why we put ourselves down so much. Well said. When you factor everything in together; like the poor football for the last 18 months previous, the change in system, the change in backline personnel, the ridiculously hard start, the virtual negative net spend then we've done exceptionally well. The manager is using his squad superbly and is performing well. Agree completely but the Smudge article in the Oatcake on Saturday was pertinent. Injury or suspension to either Fletcher or Allen would leave us very thin on the ground. Allen already has three bookings. Good to see Affelay back but we need to spend some cash come January.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 2, 2017 11:31:55 GMT
Fletcher or Allen missing would just mean Geoff moving into midfield. Not ideal, but it's a fix. However, it does flag up an area of weakness.
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Post by hanibal7 on Oct 2, 2017 12:51:04 GMT
Fletcher or Allen missing would just mean Geoff moving into midfield. Not ideal, but it's a fix. However, it does flag up an area of weakness. That Kraut Bayern says Allen needs dropping, and you know he is always right.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 2, 2017 22:57:45 GMT
I'm sure the search for new players is a continuous activity and letting older players leave will continue.
Apart from our good start on points under Hughes given the fixtures played, there are just 8 teams who have scored more goals than our 7. Our goals against record at 11 is not so good, but 4 were concede with a make-shift defence against Chelsea.
We need to avoid a drubbing at ManC and then get stuck into a less challenging fixture list and climb the table.
There has been a lot of criticism on here about how badly we played against Southampton, but at the same time praises for Diouf, Zouma, Crouch, and Shaq for their performances, complements paid for improved performances by Allen and Peiters, and Butland and Fletcher put in decent performances.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 2, 2017 23:13:14 GMT
I'm sure the search for new players is a continuous activity and letting older players leave will continue. Apart from our good start on points under Hughes given the fixtures played, there are just 8 teams who have scored more goals than our 7. Our goals against record at 11 is not so good, but 4 were concede with a make-shift defence against Chelsea. We need to avoid a drubbing at ManC and then get stuck into a less challenging fixture list and climb the table. There has been a lot of criticism on here about how badly we played against Southampton, but at the same time praises for Diouf, Zouma, Crouch, and Shaq for their performances, complements paid for improved performances by Allen and Peiters, and Butland and Fletcher put in decent performances. Provided Charlie Adam doesn't get involved in the recruitment of players (see 5 Live thread). I bet he was behind N'zonzi and Arni leaving as well. And he did knacker Steven Ireland in training as well. It's all coming out!
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Post by retired1 on Oct 3, 2017 0:20:36 GMT
Not doing badly given we seem to be averaging under 40% of possession in games.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 3, 2017 0:26:43 GMT
Fletcher or Allen missing would just mean Geoff moving into midfield. Not ideal, but it's a fix. However, it does flag up an area of weakness. That Kraut Bayern says Allen needs dropping, and you know he is always right. Before the second half against the saints he'd done nothing this season and had looked poor, played really well in that second half though, hopefully its not just a blip and he can carry it on.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 3, 2017 8:02:29 GMT
I'm sure the search for new players is a continuous activity and letting older players leave will continue. Apart from our good start on points under Hughes given the fixtures played, there are just 8 teams who have scored more goals than our 7. Our goals against record at 11 is not so good, but 4 were concede with a make-shift defence against Chelsea. We need to avoid a drubbing at ManC and then get stuck into a less challenging fixture list and climb the table. There has been a lot of criticism on here about how badly we played against Southampton, but at the same time praises for Diouf, Zouma, Crouch, and Shaq for their performances, complements paid for improved performances by Allen and Peiters, and Butland and Fletcher put in decent performances. Provided Charlie Adam doesn't get involved in the recruitment of players (see 5 Live thread). I bet he was behind N'zonzi and Arni leaving as well. And he did knacker Steven Ireland in training as well. It's all coming out! Afraid Charlie has blown it for me. His performances haven't justified his inclusion in the team for a long time. I've always valued the desire and conviction he brings and I'm sure he is a good influence in the dressing room on younger players, but the comments yesterday were tantamount to disloyalty to his employer and potentially damaging to the club.
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Post by lordb on Oct 3, 2017 11:25:01 GMT
Provided Charlie Adam doesn't get involved in the recruitment of players (see 5 Live thread). I bet he was behind N'zonzi and Arni leaving as well. And he did knacker Steven Ireland in training as well. It's all coming out! Afraid Charlie has blown it for me. His performances haven't justified his inclusion in the team for a long time. I've always valued the desire and conviction he brings and I'm sure he is a good influence in the dressing room on younger players, but the comments yesterday were tantamount to disloyalty to his employer and potentially damaging to the club. Is it only me who thought Charlie meant he told Delph he would enjoy it at Stoke but thought 'why would he leave Man City'? rather than actually saying that to Delph?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 3, 2017 11:30:02 GMT
Afraid Charlie has blown it for me. His performances haven't justified his inclusion in the team for a long time. I've always valued the desire and conviction he brings and I'm sure he is a good influence in the dressing room on younger players, but the comments yesterday were tantamount to disloyalty to his employer and potentially damaging to the club. Is it only me who thought Charlie meant he told Delph he would enjoy it at Stoke but thought 'why would he leave Man City'? rather than actually saying that to Delph? He told Delph he'd enjoy it at Stoke but then posed the question, 'why would you leave Man City' to the panel in the studio. That's far too subtle for the hate mob though, their eyes are swivelling and their mouths are dribbling with vengeance. Thick as fuck is way too polite for some of them.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 3, 2017 12:36:52 GMT
Is it only me who thought Charlie meant he told Delph he would enjoy it at Stoke but thought 'why would he leave Man City'? rather than actually saying that to Delph? He told Delph he'd enjoy it at Stoke but then posed the question, 'why would you leave Man City' to the panel in the studio. That's far too subtle for the hate mob though, their eyes are swivelling and their mouths are dribbling with vengeance. Thick as fuck is way too polite for some of them. I stand corrected. My interpretation was he had spoken to Delph and questioned him on why would he leave ManC. No hate issue on my part, I simply thought, apparently incorrectly, that he was being disloyal to Stoke. I apologize if I was wrong.
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Post by Gods on Oct 3, 2017 12:47:39 GMT
Afraid Charlie has blown it for me. His performances haven't justified his inclusion in the team for a long time. I've always valued the desire and conviction he brings and I'm sure he is a good influence in the dressing room on younger players, but the comments yesterday were tantamount to disloyalty to his employer and potentially damaging to the club. Is it only me who thought Charlie meant he told Delph he would enjoy it at Stoke but thought 'why would he leave Man City'? rather than actually saying that to Delph? No it wasn't just you, I heard it at the time, it was as plain as the nose on your face that it was an aside, a stage whisper, a rhetorical question, not something he actually said to Delph at all.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 3, 2017 12:56:45 GMT
Fletcher or Allen missing would just mean Geoff moving into midfield. Not ideal, but it's a fix. However, it does flag up an area of weakness. Only if Ryan or Bruno was fit, though - right now, we desperately need Geoff back there. Midfield was clearly an area we wanted to address in the summer, but we missed out on our prime targets of Lemina and Delph and seemingly did not have a plan B we could execute. We simply must do so in January.
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