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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 30, 2017 20:10:16 GMT
Ok, a work in progress and a patchy Stoke performance with in-game tinkering, not sure if it was all necessary - but we shouldn't ever be taking beating a good Soton side for granted, and considering where we were after Chelsea a week ago, that was quality management to get us back in a place where we can win a game like today's.
For that alone it would be 7* from me and that feels like a fair score for the game as a whole from Sparky.
add * if you were there please
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 30, 2017 20:13:15 GMT
7* managed to get 3 CB's on the pitch...which I wasn't expecting. Head ruled heart to bring Crouchy on for Saido...the team comes first!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 20:13:19 GMT
9
I love it when he get's sent off - if he had it would have been 10
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 20:19:56 GMT
7
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Post by kustokie on Sept 30, 2017 20:35:57 GMT
We won ugly! 8
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Post by adi on Sept 30, 2017 20:37:07 GMT
8* Made the right subs and won
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 30, 2017 20:39:11 GMT
5* Gouranga.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 20:45:41 GMT
6* - great decision to change to 4231 halfway through first half, substitutions nearly cost us the game, taking away our pace on the counter and giving them chance to push up and put pressure on us. Im so impressed by the change to 4231 though that I'll let him have 6
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Sept 30, 2017 21:10:14 GMT
I feel that was a game we did not deserve to win. However, it was Hughes that made the substitution today that worked. Top man Crouch!
It was a game that we did not 'boss the game' or even show control in any period in the game to deserve a win. So all credit to Hughes for winning when we did not play well.
10 from me!
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Post by bmstoke on Sept 30, 2017 21:32:08 GMT
1st half 8 2nd half 5 Bonus point for winning 7*
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Sept 30, 2017 21:37:02 GMT
9.5 triffic stuff by mark and his team. Job done with two heavily patched up defenders and diouf only 50% with his shoulder injury.
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Post by stokieinaus on Sept 30, 2017 22:49:34 GMT
4 - Too predictable, brought on Crouch and started to play the long ball. Was lucky to get a win in the end.
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Post by moz on Sept 30, 2017 23:00:12 GMT
Lucky
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 30, 2017 23:04:23 GMT
7* Zouma was a colossus today as was diouf.
Saying that Shane long missed some chances so maybe Hughes deserved a bit of luck.
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Post by robstokie on Oct 1, 2017 0:23:03 GMT
8* - a win is a win, even if we were not convincing - particularly second half. The Crouch substitution laid off, though we were lucky to play a team even more lacking in cutting edge than ourselves. Thought Diouf, Zouma and Choupo (was involved in all our best attacking moves) were excellent today as well.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 1, 2017 0:52:06 GMT
6, good starting 11, was a little surprised with the three starting at the back (happily), disappointed it turned into hoof ball at the end, we needed an outlet and would have liked to see Ramadan on, Afellay was pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2017 4:10:28 GMT
7. Injuries and Jese's situation not good. Can't fault his subs, except Johnson, WTF was he thinking, surely 2-1 up late on you need to strengthen, and Johnson is just not good enough, BUT...It paid off...3 points, well deserved, though Saints were fucking shit.
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 1, 2017 9:00:03 GMT
5 from me. With the lack of options and him wedded to 5 at the back the team picks itself. The Crouch sub is always the obvious one and I am baffled why when it happens the 'tactics aficionados' on here moan and groan...get used to it guys it will happen a lot. As for the Johnson sub it was the 93 minute! Still don't quite get the subbing with less than a couple of minutes to go that seems to be in fashion. OK it breaks up momentum but doesn't the ref just add time on? The low score is for the choice of penalty taker...surely the manager decides prior to a game who would take it if we get one? So he must have bizarrely chose the least likely man to score in Saido and you wonder why. If he just lets the players decide on the pitch that's just as reckless...poor management either way.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 1, 2017 10:03:05 GMT
7 I thought we actually played better against Chelsea - the difference being Southampton don't have the quality of the Chelsea frontline.
I love Afellay as a player but thought it a risky substitution given he's clearly not match fit. We yet again let them come on to us having taken the lead. Had the penalty gone in that would be fine but we left ourselves open to the equaliser which inevitably happened. Still we've got Crouchy so all's good.
Good result against a mid table rival so all in all very happy.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 1, 2017 10:15:56 GMT
7 I thought we actually played better against Chelsea - the difference being Southampton don't have the quality of the Chelsea frontline. I love Afellay as a player but thought it a risky substitution given he's clearly not match fit. We yet again let them come on to us having taken the lead. Had the penalty gone in that would be fine but we left ourselves open to the equaliser which inevitably happened. Still we've got Crouchy so all's good. Good result against a mid table rival so all in all very happy. As regards the Afellay substitution, I suppose the argument is if he doesn't get game time he isn't going to get match fit. I'd hope that now he has a couple of short sub appearances under his belt he will get at least 45 minutes or so in an under 23 game as an over age player.
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Post by silverdollar on Oct 1, 2017 15:26:01 GMT
I am amazed that so many think the Crouch substitution was the correct one. I thought it was diabolical. At that time we were comfortably 1-0 up. Southampton were having to take chances and we they were leaving gaps at the back. At this time we needed pace that could exploit these holes. It wasn't the fact Crouch came on. I thought Choupo should have been the one to come off. From the moment Hughes made his change we were seriously under the cosh. We could easily have conceded more than one goal. We had a break and regained the lead. It was a tap in in the six yard box made by Choupo. I was not impressed with the way we played in the second half. Hughes obviously asked Choupo to play deeper and this gave licence to Cedric to keep running forwards. Pleased we got a result!
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Post by chrisparker on Oct 1, 2017 15:32:46 GMT
I am amazed that so many think the Crouch substitution was the correct one. I thought it was diabolical. At that time we were comfortably 1-0 up. Southampton were having to take chances and we they were leaving gaps at the back. At this time we needed pace that could exploit these holes. It wasn't the fact Crouch came on. I thought Choupo should have been the one to come off. From the moment Hughes made his change we were seriously under the cosh. We could easily have conceded more than one goal. We had a break and regained the lead. It was a tap in in the six yard box made by Choupo. I was not impressed with the way we played in the second half. Hughes obviously asked Choupo to play deeper and this gave licence to Cedric to keep running forwards. Pleased we got a result! We were under the cosh long before Crouchy came on. Just check the matchday post for proof. The reason Crouch was brought on was to hold the ball and bring others into the game because we weren't able to hold on to the ball. Not only did you not want the goal scorer to come on, you wanted to take off the player who assisted the goal. It's a good thing you're not the manager.
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Post by silverdollar on Oct 1, 2017 19:50:39 GMT
I am amazed that so many think the Crouch substitution was the correct one. I thought it was diabolical. At that time we were comfortably 1-0 up. Southampton were having to take chances and we they were leaving gaps at the back. At this time we needed pace that could exploit these holes. It wasn't the fact Crouch came on. I thought Choupo should have been the one to come off. From the moment Hughes made his change we were seriously under the cosh. We could easily have conceded more than one goal. We had a break and regained the lead. It was a tap in in the six yard box made by Choupo. I was not impressed with the way we played in the second half. Hughes obviously asked Choupo to play deeper and this gave licence to Cedric to keep running forwards. Pleased we got a result! We were under the cosh long before Crouchy came on. Just check the matchday post for proof. The reason Crouch was brought on was to hold the ball and bring others into the game because we weren't able to hold on to the ball. Not only did you not want the goal scorer to come on, you wanted to take off the player who assisted the goal. It's a good thing you're not the manager. I fully understand what you are saying but I haven't changed my opinion. It wasn't broken don't fix it. Hughes did change it at half time and I agree Southampton got on top. Watch the game how successful was Crouch at holding the ball up? I'm grateful Crouch scored of course. We will never know what might have happened retaining the same eleven but not going with Choupo playing deeper. He then brought on Crouchy. I did not think it was going to be successful. Yes Choupo made it and Crouchy scored! The last twenty minutes of the game we were dire and we can count ourselves lucky.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 2, 2017 4:59:25 GMT
I think the players look up to Crouchy. see what you've done there
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 2, 2017 10:52:12 GMT
8* from me. Given the injuries we have I thought we did okay and Hughes's subs were correct. A bit unlucky in the 1st half that we didn't score a couple more goals and we were lucky in the 2nd that we didn't have at least another one put past us. 2-1 correct result methinks. Well done Hughes and players.
OS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 13:34:29 GMT
Still think we lack discipline, have to ask if Hughes still acts like one of the players instead of their manager as at times it seems they do what they want.
Why when you are winning a game anyone changes the setup is beyond me? if they make changes then fine counter that but otherwise if it aint broken don't fix it.
Good result which could have gone tits up so 6 from me. Credit for getting most things right.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 2, 2017 13:39:59 GMT
7 (* on stream from far away!) - we won, but he definitely got away with one this week.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 10:35:56 GMT
Yes, rivival. Don't change anything when winning, unless someone is truly injured. He got away with it Saturday!
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Post by hanibal7 on Oct 5, 2017 9:27:01 GMT
7 I thought we actually played better against Chelsea - the difference being Southampton don't have the quality of the Chelsea frontline. I love Afellay as a player but thought it a risky substitution given he's clearly not match fit. We yet again let them come on to us having taken the lead. Had the penalty gone in that would be fine but we left ourselves open to the equaliser which inevitably happened. Still we've got Crouchy so all's good. Good result against a mid table rival so all in all very happy. So, how can he get match fit, pray tell
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 5, 2017 9:36:15 GMT
7 I thought we actually played better against Chelsea - the difference being Southampton don't have the quality of the Chelsea frontline. I love Afellay as a player but thought it a risky substitution given he's clearly not match fit. We yet again let them come on to us having taken the lead. Had the penalty gone in that would be fine but we left ourselves open to the equaliser which inevitably happened. Still we've got Crouchy so all's good. Good result against a mid table rival so all in all very happy. So, how can he get match fit, pray tell He got an hour in the Checkatrade game this week as an overage player. That will have helped his match fitness considerably I think.
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