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Post by PotterLog on Sept 29, 2017 16:08:03 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 29, 2017 16:11:44 GMT
Good news.
You'd think he needs a loan though - as do Verlinden and Tymon.
Also, strangely described as a "winger" there.
Is he close to fitness again?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Sept 29, 2017 16:17:35 GMT
Good news that
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Post by nutterpotter on Sept 29, 2017 16:18:27 GMT
Good news. You'd think he needs a loan though - as do Verlinden and Tymon. Also, strangely described as a "winger" there. Is he close to fitness again? He's back training. See fourth image: |
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Post by Clem Fandango on Sept 29, 2017 16:18:27 GMT
Good news. You'd think he needs a loan though - as do Verlinden and Tymon. Also, strangely described as a "winger" there. Is he close to fitness again? He was pictured training earlier in the week alongside Zouma. It'll be interesting to see if he features in the U23s tonight at all. |
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Post by unknown182 on Sept 29, 2017 16:23:40 GMT
Has he ever played CB?
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Post by wuzza on Sept 29, 2017 17:15:03 GMT
Fingers crossed that he and a couple of others will break our academy's 'duck' within the next two seasons and become regular and successful first team players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 17:25:12 GMT
Bizarre that the club announcement referred to him as a winger.
Still, fantastic news!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 18:33:30 GMT
Bizarre that the club announcement referred to him as a winger. Still, fantastic news! Get used to it, he is best deployed on the wing as he is stronger at running at people then in behind. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 29, 2017 18:36:36 GMT
In our 4-3-3, I could see his future in the Shaq/Choupo role, behind a main striker.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Sept 29, 2017 18:42:30 GMT
Will never be a first team regular for us.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 29, 2017 19:00:12 GMT
Is now the time to give him a chance up front? I actually think we've got nothing to lose! Give him a start and replace him with Crouchy at half time if it doesn't work! Needs to be given chances frequently in the games to come!  |
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 29, 2017 19:19:42 GMT
Will never be a first team regular for us. That's the spirit eh |
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Post by robstokie on Sept 29, 2017 19:32:28 GMT
Is now the time to give him a chance up front? I actually think we've got nothing to lose! Give him a start and replace him with Crouchy at half time if it doesn't work! Needs to be given chances frequently in the games to come! Absolutely delighted that we have tied him down. If Monaco were sniffing around with their millions for him to be a direct replacement for Mbappe, there must be a fucking decent player there. Hope that Sparky will really start to integrate him (along with Verlinden, Tyrese Campbell (whats happening with him - he looked fantastic pre-season) and Tymon) this season. We cant keep falling back onto a 36 year old whose legs are shot only offers us one real option. I would look to give him a decent half-hour against Soton tomorrow, particularly if we are winning - who knows he might be able to hit them on the counter if they have to chase the game. |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Sept 29, 2017 19:39:51 GMT
Will never be a first team regular for us. That's the spirit eh Pretty sure my opinion will have no ultimate bearing on his career. I just think he's looked well below the required standard when I've seen him. |
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Post by kustokie on Sept 29, 2017 21:54:45 GMT
Bizarre that the club announcement referred to him as a winger. Still, fantastic news! That's because Hughes sees all CFs as potential wingers!  |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 29, 2017 22:00:02 GMT
Pretty sure my opinion will have no ultimate bearing on his career. I just think he's looked well below the required standard when I've seen him. He was out of position when he played for the first team. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 22:30:28 GMT
Absolutely delighted that we have tied him down. If Monaco were sniffing around with their millions for him to be a direct replacement for Mbappe, there must be a fucking decent player there. Maybe they just checked his profile in Football Manager and thought he must worth buying... |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 4, 2017 9:57:18 GMT
Just seen Bayern discussing this on twitter..... Given the long contract, they *seem* to rate him highly. So how exactly can't he be getting minutes, given the state of our other options up front? Choupo clearly isn't a striker. Neither is Jese. (watch one of them score a hat-trick today now!  Out striking options are rarely going to be this poor, so if he can't even get on the bench, at 20, you wonder if he ever will? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 9:59:58 GMT
Just seen Bayern discussing this on twitter..... Given the long contract, they *seem* to rate him highly. So how exactly can't he be getting minutes, given the state of our other options up front? Choupo clearly isn't a striker. Neither is Jese. (watch one of them score a hat-trick today now! Out striking options are rarely going to be this poor, so if he can't even get on the bench, at 20, you wonder if he ever will? He's a Belgium U21 international who doesn't play much on international duty and returns to Stoke to be in the first team/U23 team purgatory where he's kept around the first team like a waterboy without playing, yet that rules him out of U23 games. Such a mess. How can players develop in that environment? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 4, 2017 10:05:34 GMT
Just seen Bayern discussing this on twitter..... Given the long contract, they *seem* to rate him highly. So how exactly can't he be getting minutes, given the state of our other options up front? Choupo clearly isn't a striker. Neither is Jese. (watch one of them score a hat-trick today now! Out striking options are rarely going to be this poor, so if he can't even get on the bench, at 20, you wonder if he ever will? He's a Belgium U21 international who doesn't play much on international duty and returns to Stoke to be in the first team/U23 team purgatory where he's kept around the first team like a waterboy without playing, yet that rules him out of U23 games. Such a mess. How can players develop in that environment? Yep - it's an odd one. On paper, this is a dream situation for him to be getting minutes You'd think a new striker will be arriving here in the next 6-12 months, and that player will be demanding minutes, as will Diouf once we sign a right wing-back. Who knows what will become of Berahino? And yet nothing is happening for N'Goy. He's not 17 - he's 20! He obviously mustn't be forcing Hughes' hand in training? |
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Post by Gods on Nov 4, 2017 10:07:34 GMT
I've only seen a couple of short cameo appearances from him but I saw nothing to convince me Ngoy is the answer, whatever the question might be!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 4, 2017 10:08:29 GMT
I've only seen a couple of short cameo appearances from him but I saw nothing to convince me Ngoy is the answer whatever the question is. So you have virtually nothing to base your opinion on then |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 4, 2017 10:10:04 GMT
He's a Belgium U21 international who doesn't play much on international duty and returns to Stoke to be in the first team/U23 team purgatory where he's kept around the first team like a waterboy without playing, yet that rules him out of U23 games. Such a mess. How can players develop in that environment? Yep - it's an odd one. On paper, this is a dream situation for him to be getting minutes You'd think a new striker will be arriving here in the next 6-12 months, and that player will be demanding minutes, as will Diouf once we sign a right wing-back. Who knows what will become of Berahino? And yet nothing is happening for N'Goy. He's not 17 - he's 20! He obviously mustn't be forcing Hughes' hand in training? But neither is a bloke Hughes chased for years and then spent 12m on. He has fads and is happy to move on from one to fit the next in. The next being trying to prove to the world that he can get one of Jese or Choupo playing as a striker. He even moved a bloke who got 3 in 3 to carry it on. That's difficult to break into. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 4, 2017 10:10:47 GMT
He's a Belgium U21 international who doesn't play much on international duty and returns to Stoke to be in the first team/U23 team purgatory where he's kept around the first team like a waterboy without playing, yet that rules him out of U23 games. Such a mess. How can players develop in that environment? Yep - it's an odd one. On paper, this is a dream situation for him to be getting minutes You'd think a new striker will be arriving here in the next 6-12 months, and that player will be demanding minutes, as will Diouf once we sign a right wing-back. Who knows what will become of Berahino? And yet nothing is happening for N'Goy. He's not 17 - he's 20! He obviously mustn't be forcing Hughes' hand in training? I watched all the pre season games, he looked better than the other attacking players to be honest. At our club it seems there are no plans for any particular player, no coherent system if development, ngoy really should be badgering to go out and get first team football, as should verlinden and souttar. Edwards should be in the team ahead of diouf, with diouf up front |
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Post by Gods on Nov 4, 2017 10:11:21 GMT
I've only seen a couple of short cameo appearances from him but I saw nothing to convince me Ngoy is the answer whatever the question is. So you have virtually nothing to base your opinion on then Well I think you can tell if someone is any good or not pretty quickly, but if you don't believe me take it from the management team instead who see him every day and choose not to play him despite us having so few viable options up front. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 4, 2017 10:37:38 GMT
Seems awfully injury prone at such a young age, and I really wonder why he hasn't stood out more playing for the youngsters? I've seen that a lot of people think highly of him, but he really should be knocking at the door of our first team if was so special by now?  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 10:50:25 GMT
Yep - it's an odd one. On paper, this is a dream situation for him to be getting minutes You'd think a new striker will be arriving here in the next 6-12 months, and that player will be demanding minutes, as will Diouf once we sign a right wing-back. Who knows what will become of Berahino? And yet nothing is happening for N'Goy. He's not 17 - he's 20! He obviously mustn't be forcing Hughes' hand in training? I watched all the pre season games, he looked better than the other attacking players to be honest. At our club it seems there are no plans for any particular player, no coherent system if development, ngoy really should be badgering to go out and get first team football, as should verlinden and souttar. Edwards should be in the team ahead of diouf, with diouf up front Spot on. Pre season was weird. The whole Deploy Ngoy stuff from last season was a bit of fun in the hope that he'd break through but out in Switzerland...it was a case of "shit he's actually ready". |
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Post by clarkeda on Nov 4, 2017 11:34:43 GMT
Seems awfully injury prone at such a young age, and I really wonder why he hasn't stood out more playing for the youngsters? I've seen that a lot of people think highly of him, but he really should be knocking at the door of our first team if was so special by now? He seems to be an incredibly explosive striker, with that comes the risks, seems to pick up a lot of tweaks and niggles. Feels like he might have abit of the ‘Daniel Sturridges’ about him in that regard |
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 4, 2017 11:42:34 GMT
Seems awfully injury prone at such a young age, and I really wonder why he hasn't stood out more playing for the youngsters? I've seen that a lot of people think highly of him, but he really should be knocking at the door of our first team if was so special by now? He seems to be an incredibly explosive striker, with that comes the risks, seems to pick up a lot of tweaks and niggles. Feels like he might have abit of the ‘Daniel Sturridges’ about him in that regard Will he be a player we can rely on, because Lpool can't when it comes to Sturridge. |
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