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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 16:16:58 GMT
Would have been good to have bought him on in the chelsea game?
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Post by Davef on Sept 28, 2017 16:22:42 GMT
Why?
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Sept 28, 2017 16:23:13 GMT
Should have at least replaced BMI.
If you can't get a shirt when every recognized CB is on the able its a sad state of affairs.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 28, 2017 16:27:30 GMT
The game was gone and it would have been an unnecessary baptism of fire.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 16:33:21 GMT
When a young player comes into a team to make his debut, he wants to look to older players for guidance and inspiration. But who would he have looked to when Bruno went off?
I'm in favour of giving Souttar a chance, but the next few games will be much better.
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Post by 3putts on Sept 28, 2017 16:38:03 GMT
he was on the bench to gain match day experience. nothing to gain from throwing him to the lions. one for the future methinks.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 28, 2017 16:56:06 GMT
Would have learn't more than he did sitting on his arse.
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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 28, 2017 17:02:33 GMT
So we didn’t have Darren Fletcher playing centre half?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 17:26:59 GMT
Last 20mins would have been good for him and hughes would have seen how he reacted Being thrown to the lions is a good way to learn sometimes...hes (or hughes) not going to learn anything on the bench
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Post by adamsson on Sept 28, 2017 17:29:17 GMT
There is a difference between being thrown in the deep end and being chucked off a cliff.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2017 17:32:43 GMT
It was the perfect time to get some experience.
Absolutely ridiculous not to bring him on, only compounded by how wank Fletcher was there.
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Post by pipesurgeon on Sept 28, 2017 17:51:07 GMT
Good enough for the bench but not to play 20 minutes !!!!!!
He might have had a blinder but that's not what Hughes wants it might put him under pressure to play him again. He never plays the young lads not even for the last 10 minutes
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 28, 2017 18:34:09 GMT
Good enough for the bench but not to play 20 minutes !!!!!!He might have had a blinder but that's not what Hughes wants it might put him under pressure to play him again. He never plays the young lads not even for the last 10 minutes Spot on, why bother having him on the bench if you're not prepared to use him, we had no other CBs yet he still doesn't get on, this to me shows Hughes he no intention of using the kids regardless of the drivel he comes out with.
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Post by ratters on Sept 28, 2017 18:37:03 GMT
The game was gone and it would have been an unnecessary baptism of fire. No it wasn't, it was 2-0 and we were on the front foot. After that it became 3, yes it was johnsons mistake but souttar may have caught morata, fletcher had no chance
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2017 18:47:32 GMT
It's not the right time to play them against a Championship reserve side.
It's not the right time to play them when you're 2-0 down and the game is lost.
When is the right time to play them?
He could not have done any worse than Fletcher did.
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 28, 2017 18:48:48 GMT
He's a centre back.....And we needed one. Do I win a prize?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 28, 2017 19:05:41 GMT
He was on the bench in case we reached the absurd situation where didn't have a senior centre half available for a Premier League game. That situation arrived and he still wasn't played. It certainly baffled me at the time.
What would Hughes have done if Bruno was injured after 10 minutes? I genuinely think he'd take Joe Allen up on his offer to play at the back before playing a kid, a kid it may be said who has two Scottish top flight appearances to his name.
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Post by penkvillepotter on Sept 28, 2017 19:20:25 GMT
Michael Owen was scoring the goal of life at 17. I was a tad surprised he didn't play. What was to lose. And that's not with the benefit of hindsight. No one would have slaughtered him. Oh hang on, this is the Oatcake!
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Post by redstriper on Sept 28, 2017 19:31:52 GMT
Ryan was thrown in at the deep end by England, it didn't do him any favours did it ?
so I understand why hughes didn't chuck him on, in hindsight it does look the wrong call because fletcher got taken to the cleaners.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 28, 2017 19:35:23 GMT
Was there any combination of events that would have seen him play that day though. We planned for the worst and the worst happened.
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Post by Davef on Sept 28, 2017 19:59:37 GMT
Last 20mins would have been good for him and hughes would have seen how he reacted Being thrown to the lions is a good way to learn sometimes...hes (or hughes) not going to learn anything on the bench There you go...
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 28, 2017 20:13:51 GMT
The game was gone and it would have been an unnecessary baptism of fire. Or we were already 0-2 down and have nothing to lose! I think it could have been demoralizing for him knowing that we needed a centre-back and he would rather put a centre midfield there and make the team completely unbalanced, just a complete waste of a bench space if he had no intention of playing him
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 28, 2017 20:24:26 GMT
The game was gone and it would have been an unnecessary baptism of fire. Or we were already 0-2 down and have nothing to lose full stop I think it could have been demoralizing for him knowing that we needed a centre-back and he would rather put a centre midfield there and make the team completely unbalanced full stop just a complete waste of a bench space if he had no intention of playing him Yeah you wonder what would be more demoralising and more beneficial. Him potentially being done once or twice by a host of World and International class stars whilst the team was on its arse (with the potential of maybe doing alright) or the realisation as he moved a player having one of the worst games of his career out of position that he may as well spent the afternoon sat at the back of the Boothen End.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 28, 2017 20:29:22 GMT
The game was gone and it would have been an unnecessary baptism of fire. Or we were already 0-2 down and have nothing to lose full stop I think it could have been demoralizing for him knowing that we needed a centre-back and he would rather put a centre midfield there and make the team completely unbalanced full stop just a complete waste of a bench space if he had no intention of playing him It is a bit confusing. I guess you could say the value (to him) of putting him on at 0-2 in a game where we've already been pasted is different to if, for example, Bruno goes off at 0-0 in a tight first half. I wonder if LMH would've used him under those circumstances
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Sept 28, 2017 20:50:00 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2017 20:50:00 GMT
Ryan was thrown in at the deep end by England, it didn't do him any favours did it ? so I understand why hughes didn't chuck him on, in hindsight it does look the wrong call because fletcher got taken to the cleaners. No hindsight needed. Play the centre half at centre half. It was always a daft decision.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 28, 2017 21:01:21 GMT
Should have at least replaced BMI. If you can't get a shirt when every recognized CB is on the able its a sad state of affairs. On the what?
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Sept 28, 2017 21:29:27 GMT
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Post by dexta on Sept 28, 2017 21:29:27 GMT
Would have been good to have bought him on in the chelsea game? why not start with him in the first place
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 28, 2017 21:30:10 GMT
Or we were already 0-2 down and have nothing to lose full stop I think it could have been demoralizing for him knowing that we needed a centre-back and he would rather put a centre midfield there and make the team completely unbalanced full stop just a complete waste of a bench space if he had no intention of playing him Yeah you wonder what would be more demoralising and more beneficial. Him potentially being done once or twice by a host of World and International class stars whilst the team was on its arse (with the potential of maybe doing alright) or the realisation as he moved a player having one of the worst games of his career out of position that he may as well spent the afternoon sat at the back of the Boothen End. Goodness me if you keep the Chief Exec out of it you can actually talk some sense. You should try it more often
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 28, 2017 21:49:15 GMT
The game was gone and it would have been an unnecessary baptism of fire. I disagree, imo any player who makes it too the bench for a premier league match should be fit for purpose. If not he should be left in the squad to develop
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 28, 2017 22:01:18 GMT
It's how you manage young players It's tough breaking into this league but a few clubs Everton Southampton do a fine job even United give the odd young lad a chance . I recall Rashford getting chucked in during an injury crisis. Most managers don't have.the bottle and Hughes seems to be one of those to me . Chelsea may not be the best opponents but if centre backs are still struggling I'd much rather see him on the pitch than the likes of Johnson myself vs Southampton
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