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Post by robstokie on Sept 27, 2017 15:50:28 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-41412911Bloody Ridiculous. Teachers are supposed to educate children with the facts on healthy eating and living - not enforce it on them against their will with effectively intimidation tactics. And banning flavoured water? Anyways, the last time I checked, a teachers job was in the classroom - NOT in the Canteen... Saying that though, they've been doing it for years. When I was in school, they banned us from having crisps and chocolate at break-time with similar tactics.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 27, 2017 16:00:07 GMT
A school in Bradford bans kids from eating some pork products  |
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Post by riverman on Sept 27, 2017 16:36:12 GMT
They banned us from smoking fags at our school!
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Post by yeokel on Sept 27, 2017 16:50:43 GMT
And they were never particularly understanding about us taking a bit of booze in either!
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Post by yeokel on Sept 27, 2017 16:52:45 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-41412911Bloody Ridiculous. Teachers are supposed to educate children with the facts on healthy eating and living - not enforce it on them against their will with effectively intimidation tactics. And banning flavoured water? Anyways, the last time I checked, a teachers job was in the classroom - NOT in the Canteen... Saying that though, they've been doing it for years. When I was in school, they banned us from having crisps and chocolate at break-time with similar tactics. " Mr Fryer said his son's sausage roll was removed last Monday and given back to him at the end of the day.
"He was given a ham sandwich instead but he hates ham so there's no way he was going to eat it"" I think Mr Fryer might want to consider and explain to his son what the gunge is inside the sausage roll before he dismisses the ham sandwich too readily. It does sound as if the school is being a little heavy handed though. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 27, 2017 17:17:02 GMT
A school in Bradford bans kids from eating some pork products Scandalous. |
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Post by spiler on Sept 27, 2017 17:38:27 GMT
A school in Bradford bans kids from eating some pork products You ought to change that hammer and sickle on your logo to a pork pie and a crucifix. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 27, 2017 18:15:19 GMT
There's a bigger issue at stake here and it's the insidious, seeping normalisation of authoritarianism.
The boundaries in place in schools have always been microcosms of rules that they will encounter in the world of work. Uniforms, respect and manners, etc have been fine and I'll agree with those.
The most arbitrary shit is being flooded into places though, and seemingly just to get kids to blindly accept instruction and authority. Coupling this with the Tory fetish for replacing creativity with sterile logic and rigourous content-based learning rather than skill-based learning, and it's safe to say there really is a sinister motivation somewhere.
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Post by spiler on Sept 27, 2017 18:43:15 GMT
There's a bigger issue at stake here and it's the insidious, seeping normalisation of authoritarianism. The boundaries in place in schools have always been microcosms of rules that they will encounter in the world of work. Uniforms, respect and manners, etc have been fine and I'll agree with those. The most arbitrary shit is being flooded into places though, and seemingly just to get kids to blindly accept instruction and authority. Coupling this with the Tory fetish for replacing creativity with sterile logic and rigourous content-based learning rather than skill-based learning, and it's safe to say there really is a sinister motivation somewhere. Yes, eating healthily is such a bad idea for kids. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 27, 2017 18:46:10 GMT
There's a bigger issue at stake here and it's the insidious, seeping normalisation of authoritarianism. The boundaries in place in schools have always been microcosms of rules that they will encounter in the world of work. Uniforms, respect and manners, etc have been fine and I'll agree with those. The most arbitrary shit is being flooded into places though, and seemingly just to get kids to blindly accept instruction and authority. Coupling this with the Tory fetish for replacing creativity with sterile logic and rigourous content-based learning rather than skill-based learning, and it's safe to say there really is a sinister motivation somewhere. Yes, eating healthily is such a bad idea for kids. Read the rest of the post again, carefully, then try again. Come on now lad, reading comprehension skills, can you do that? |
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Post by spiler on Sept 27, 2017 18:50:00 GMT
Yes, eating healthily is such a bad idea for kids. Read the rest of the post again, carefully, then try again. Come on now lad, reading comprehension skills, can you do that? This is the sausage roll thread mate. |
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Post by robstokie on Sept 27, 2017 18:51:22 GMT
There's a bigger issue at stake here and it's the insidious, seeping normalisation of authoritarianism. The boundaries in place in schools have always been microcosms of rules that they will encounter in the world of work. Uniforms, respect and manners, etc have been fine and I'll agree with those. The most arbitrary shit is being flooded into places though, and seemingly just to get kids to blindly accept instruction and authority. Coupling this with the Tory fetish for replacing creativity with sterile logic and rigourous content-based learning rather than skill-based learning, and it's safe to say there really is a sinister motivation somewhere. Yes, eating healthily is such a bad idea for kids. No ones disputing that healthy eating and living is a good thing for children to learn about. The problem for me is that schools have to teach children how to make decisions and think independently and critically in the big, bad world. Forcing them to submit to their policy is more likely to make the child rebel or develop an unhealthy relationship with food or not allow them to develop decision making skills they need in life. The way forward is education and positive feedback to healthy food choices from teachers, but, at the same time not to demonise those who make a decision that is perhaps not the healthiest. |
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Post by spiler on Sept 27, 2017 18:58:54 GMT
Yes, eating healthily is such a bad idea for kids. No ones disputing that healthy eating and living is a good thing for children to learn about. The problem for me is that schools have to teach children how to make decisions and think independently and critically in the big, bad world. Forcing them to submit to their policy is more likely to make the child rebel or develop an unhealthy relationship with food or not allow them to develop decision making skills they need in life. The way forward is education and positive feedback to healthy food choices from teachers, but, at the same time not to demonise those who make a decision that is perhaps not the healthiest. Sausage rolls, like turkey twizzlers, pot noodles and pork pies shouldn't be anywhere near a school menu. It's not a muslim conspiracy.  |
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Post by robstokie on Sept 27, 2017 19:11:35 GMT
No ones disputing that healthy eating and living is a good thing for children to learn about. The problem for me is that schools have to teach children how to make decisions and think independently and critically in the big, bad world. Forcing them to submit to their policy is more likely to make the child rebel or develop an unhealthy relationship with food or not allow them to develop decision making skills they need in life. The way forward is education and positive feedback to healthy food choices from teachers, but, at the same time not to demonise those who make a decision that is perhaps not the healthiest. Sausage rolls, like turkey twizzlers, pot noodles and pork pies shouldn't be anywhere near a school menu. It's not a muslim conspiracy. I didn't say it was  I think you've missed the point altogether mate, it wasn't on the school menu - Teachers were making kids hand over their lunchboxes and they were confiscating anything that didn't meet their holier-than-thou standards. If a school only wants to offer healthy food in the dinners they provide, that's fine by me, BUT, they shouldn't be forcing their standards on those who choose to bring their own lunch in, should they? You seem like a fairly liberal person - Do you think that forcing kids to eat (or not to eat) certain things is in anyway liberal? I certainly don't think so. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 27, 2017 19:12:52 GMT
Neither of us are saying it's a Muslim conspiracy for fuck's sake kid, it's the "Do what we say, because we know what's best for you, and you need to listen to us more than your parents" mentality that is the issue.
Education is the important thing, not bending kids to kowtow to the will of some self-professed benevolent authority.
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Post by spiler on Sept 27, 2017 19:15:46 GMT
Sausage rolls, like turkey twizzlers, pot noodles and pork pies shouldn't be anywhere near a school menu. It's not a muslim conspiracy. I didn't say it was I think you've missed the point altogether mate, it wasn't on the school menu - Teachers were making kids hand over their lunchboxes and they were confiscating anything that didn't meet their holier-than-thou standards. If a school only wants to offer healthy food in the dinners they provide, that's fine by me, BUT, they shouldn't be forcing their standards on those who choose to bring their own lunch in, should they? You seem like a fairly liberal person - Do you think that forcing kids to eat (or not to eat) certain things is in anyway liberal? I certainly don't think so. Kids can't concentrate with that shit inside them. Ask a teacher. Yes, it should be chucked out. |
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Post by robstokie on Sept 27, 2017 19:16:19 GMT
Neither of us are saying it's a Muslim conspiracy for fuck's sake kid, it's the "Do what we say, because we know what's best for you, and you need to listen to us more than your parents" mentality that is the issue. Education is the important thing, not bending kids to kowtow to the will of some self-professed benevolent authority. Couldn't put it better myself. Its the 'do what we say because we think we are in some obscure way better than you' attitude that grinds my gears too. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 27, 2017 19:19:51 GMT
I didn't say it was I think you've missed the point altogether mate, it wasn't on the school menu - Teachers were making kids hand over their lunchboxes and they were confiscating anything that didn't meet their holier-than-thou standards. If a school only wants to offer healthy food in the dinners they provide, that's fine by me, BUT, they shouldn't be forcing their standards on those who choose to bring their own lunch in, should they? You seem like a fairly liberal person - Do you think that forcing kids to eat (or not to eat) certain things is in anyway liberal? I certainly don't think so. Kids can't concentrate with that shit inside them. Ask a teacher. Yes, it should be chucked out. I don't need to ask a teacher, I am a teacher. I'd rather have a full and happy kid with a sausage roll in him, than a hungry and pissed off kid who didn't eat over dinner because he was offered something he didn't want, like or ask for. Snatching a kid's lunch is theft, and the teacher should be charged with theft. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 19:52:18 GMT
I didn't say it was I think you've missed the point altogether mate, it wasn't on the school menu - Teachers were making kids hand over their lunchboxes and they were confiscating anything that didn't meet their holier-than-thou standards. If a school only wants to offer healthy food in the dinners they provide, that's fine by me, BUT, they shouldn't be forcing their standards on those who choose to bring their own lunch in, should they? You seem like a fairly liberal person - Do you think that forcing kids to eat (or not to eat) certain things is in anyway liberal? I certainly don't think so. Kids can't concentrate with that shit inside them. Ask a teacher. Yes, it should be chucked out. I'm a pretty high achiever and I also eat Sausage Rolls. I can concentrate perfectly well, in fact I had a 3hr meeting today after eating a Sausage Roll from Tescos. Explain. |
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Post by spiler on Sept 27, 2017 19:55:29 GMT
Kids can't concentrate with that shit inside them. Ask a teacher. Yes, it should be chucked out. I'm a pretty high achiever and I also eat Sausage Rolls. I can concentrate perfectly well, in fact I had a 3hr meeting today after eating a Sausage Roll from Tescos. Explain. Define "higher achiever". CEO of ........? |
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Post by heyzeus on Sept 27, 2017 19:57:24 GMT
Kids can't concentrate with that shit inside them. Ask a teacher. Yes, it should be chucked out. I'm a pretty high achiever and I also eat Sausage Rolls. I can concentrate perfectly well, in fact I had a 3hr meeting today after eating a Sausage Roll from Tescos. Explain. I think this is right. I've not done very well and I'm vegetarian. I don't like fat kids in church though and I would definately take sausage rolls off them. I think teachers should too  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 19:59:15 GMT
They banned us from smoking at school.....so I just sold them
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Post by spiler on Sept 27, 2017 20:00:26 GMT
Kids can't concentrate with that shit inside them. Ask a teacher. Yes, it should be chucked out. I don't need to ask a teacher, I am a teacher. I'd rather have a full and happy kid with a sausage roll in him, than a hungry and pissed off kid who didn't eat over dinner because he was offered something he didn't want, like or ask for. Snatching a kid's lunch is theft, and the teacher should be charged with theft. Len's Driving Academy doesn't count |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 20:00:49 GMT
I'm a pretty high achiever and I also eat Sausage Rolls. I can concentrate perfectly well, in fact I had a 3hr meeting today after eating a Sausage Roll from Tescos. Explain. Define "higher achiever". CEO of ........? I said 'pretty high achiever'. I'm not a CEO. I earn pretty well though. As it happens, my CEO eats Sausage Rolls. Looking at him, he eats more of them than I do. Your suggestion was that you can't possibly concentrate after eating a Sausage Roll. I think you're eating the wrong brand. |
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Post by spiler on Sept 27, 2017 20:03:08 GMT
Define "higher achiever". CEO of ........? I said 'pretty high achiever'. I'm not a CEO. I earn pretty well though. As it happens, my CEO eats Sausage Rolls. Looking at him, he eats more of them than I do. Your suggestion was that you can't possibly concentrate after eating a Sausage Roll. I think you're eating the wrong brand. I said "kids" not adults. I go cross eyed after half a pork pie these days. Junk food mate. You eat sausage rolls, your CEO eats them, what on earth do you guys do? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 20:03:29 GMT
I'm a pretty high achiever and I also eat Sausage Rolls. I can concentrate perfectly well, in fact I had a 3hr meeting today after eating a Sausage Roll from Tescos. Explain. I think this is right. I've not done very well and I'm vegetarian. I don't like fat kids in church though and I would definately take sausage rolls off them. I think teachers should too As my Mum said when I was young...it's the choices that you make in life, etc... Don't link Vegetarianism with failure, it sends out the wrong message 🤗🤗 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 20:05:06 GMT
I said 'pretty high achiever'. I'm not a CEO. I earn pretty well though. As it happens, my CEO eats Sausage Rolls. Looking at him, he eats more of them than I do. Your suggestion was that you can't possibly concentrate after eating a Sausage Roll. I think you're eating the wrong brand. I said "kids" not adults. I go cross eyed after half a pork pie these days. Junk food mate. If my lad came home with a note saying that he hadn't concentrated in class, and tried to blame it on the Sausage Roll he had for lunch, I'd go cross eyed 😁 |
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Post by robstokie on Sept 27, 2017 20:18:45 GMT
I didn't eat in school - I rarely showed up, I was too busy truanting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 20:23:58 GMT
I said 'pretty high achiever'. I'm not a CEO. I earn pretty well though. As it happens, my CEO eats Sausage Rolls. Looking at him, he eats more of them than I do. Your suggestion was that you can't possibly concentrate after eating a Sausage Roll. I think you're eating the wrong brand. I said "kids" not adults. I go cross eyed after half a pork pie these days. Junk food mate. You eat sausage rolls, your CEO eats them, what on earth do you guys do? You've still got to eat mate, fuels the mind. Especially Walls Sausage Rolls which are on offer for 50p in Tesco right now. Everyone should be able to eat Sausage Rolls without fear of being labelled a 'fatty'. |
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Post by spiler on Sept 27, 2017 20:38:54 GMT
It's a pity the EU doesn't ban them
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I think you've missed the point altogether mate, it wasn't on the school menu - Teachers were making kids hand over their lunchboxes and they were confiscating anything that didn't meet their holier-than-thou standards. If a school only wants to offer healthy food in the dinners they provide, that's fine by me, BUT, they shouldn't be forcing their standards on those who choose to bring their own lunch in, should they? 
