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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 23, 2017 16:11:07 GMT
Butland -6 not given much protection today
BMI - 6 solid but done with the movement of Morata today
Johnson- 4 poor game today and dilly dallied far too often for me
Pieters -5 Moses ran him ragged I thought
Fletcher -5 didn't give much cover today but tried to get things going and turned defence into attack as much as he could
Allen -4 out muscled all game......poor for me
Diouf 5 had to do far too much defending today and had little effect going forward
Sobhi -4 lack of confidence and didn't have a good game IMO
Jese-4 out muscled and really didn't look interested for me
MCM - 5 he huffed and puffed but not much else in all honesty
Shaq-6 our best player I thought and could see his frustration when things didn't go right
Crouch -5 Affelay -4
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Post by Dr Hesham on Sept 23, 2017 16:13:20 GMT
Butland 6 Indi 6 Johnson 2 Peiters 7 Diouf 7 Ramadan 5 Fletcher 2 Allen 5 Shaqiri 6 Moting 6 Jese 3 Crouch 6
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Post by WhyDelilah on Sept 23, 2017 16:13:35 GMT
All of them 4
Choupo 5
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 23, 2017 16:14:09 GMT
Johnson ZERO - who renewed his contract should be sacked FFS
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 23, 2017 16:14:54 GMT
All 4's apart from Shaqiri.
He scraped a 5
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Post by waltersobchak on Sept 23, 2017 16:35:28 GMT
Ratings seem a little harsh as thought we did ok in parts. Arguably couldn't come up against many stronger club teams in world football and we were punished by 4 clinical finishes and 2 stupid errors.
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Post by stokiemarc on Sept 23, 2017 16:47:37 GMT
We were sort of the better team or at least matched them but they won through punishing our mistakes and the ball never dropped for us in the box. Next week is a huge match for us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 23, 2017 16:51:03 GMT
Butland was offered little protection but he was poor for the first. Should have charged out like the light brigade!
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Post by jordan9915 on Sept 23, 2017 16:54:05 GMT
Butland-5- I don’t know if he could have done better for the goals but had no real protection.
Diouf-6- thought he was one of our best players going forward, but his job is to defend and he didn’t do that, especially for the 4th Also missed 2 good chances. Maybe he should be our centre forward???
Johnson- 3- honestly thought he was awful. Terrible decision making, long ball with Jesé on, pass into midfield with crouch on. Think he costed us the game as if we’d have got the goal at 2-0 I think we could’ve got a point, and we looked the likely team to score. 3 of the goals came from our right side. He should’ve gone in he summer and this has to be his last game for stoke. Edwards would’ve done better.
Bmi-5- not his best performance but don’t think he trusted the defenders with him. Most balls into morata went back to where they came from, did well when he chased morata all the way back. But he was our only centre half and we conceded 4.
Erik-5- thought he was poor against Moses wife, but cleared up most that came into the centre. Thought he did well for someone who was playing out of position.
Ramadan- 5- not a defender, if plays should be part of the front 3, out muscled. But ran at the fullbacks, which is what the fans want to see.
Allen- 6- thought he had a much better game than the last couple. Got out muscled by Chelsea’s centre midfielders but made up for it with the slide tackles and last ditch tackles. Tried to drive us forward but nothing came off. Much better today from Joe.
Fletcher- 5- didn’t really help us going forward today, wasn’t much better defending. Gifted them the second goal and was poor at centre half, but that’s not his position. Can’t moan at fletch for to much as I think he’s been one of our best players this season.
Choupo- 6- drives us forward, looks much more affective out wide. Had a half decent shot and took on Moses. Had a pen shout aswell. Unfortuently, wingers need a striker to be in the box to cross for. And we didn’t have them today. HES NOT A CENTRE FORWARD MR HUGHES!!
Shaq- 7- my man of the match. Drove at the chelsea defence. Had the confidence to try skills and some worked. MOST Crosses looked good. Had a weak shot but at least someone hit the target! Caused alonso problems all day I thought. Shaq is finally settled and stepped up as our key man.
Jesé- 4- If it wasn’t for Johnson I’d say he was our worst player. Looks weak. He doesn’t close down. He doesn’t win headers. He doesn’t even challenge for them. Didn’t drive at the defence. Didn’t shoot. Why was he on the pitch. Haven’t been overly convinced in any game. Got 1 goal but has been poor since. Super Jonny Walters would’ve been better. Think he needs to be dropped sparky, surely it’s not just the fans that can see it.
Crouch- 6- we didn’t use him as we should’ve. But the 2 times we did he nodded down we’ll and diouf should’ve scored. Don’t think we should start him but he still is a handful
Affelay- 5- didn’t really have a chance today, the game was over and it wasn’t his fault. Some good passes and nice to see him back to some kind of fitness.
Honestly think he could’ve got a point. 70th minute, if we get the goal, we draw. The first 30 minutes of the second half we was by far the better team. 3 stupid decisions costed us today. One, Johnson’s stupid mistake knocked the stuffin’ out of us. Why is he passing the ball into the middle?? Someone tell me?? Just clip the line.
2, mark Hughes? Why is Johnson playing?? Why have we taken our only centre half off the pitch. Why haven’t you trusted a young lad In souttar? Don’t put him on the bench if you don’t trust him. Why wasn’t Johnson sold and why was Bardsley kept? If you think Edwards have something special, why aren’t you playing him? It’s pathetic.
And finally mike dean. We all know he love the attention. But he has to send Alonso off. He’s on a yellow card. He makes another yellow cardable offence. He’s argued with the ref. He throws the ball away. This isn’t the mike dean show. It’s a premier league game. Ridiculous!
Sorry about the essay, I’m just pissed off! Haha
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Post by stokecity4life on Sept 23, 2017 17:11:29 GMT
Butland-5- I don’t know if he could have done better for the goals but had no real protection. Diouf-6- thought he was one of our best players going forward, but his job is to defend and he didn’t do that, especially for the 4th Also missed 2 good chances. Maybe he should be our centre forward??? Johnson- 3- honestly thought he was awful. Terrible decision making, long ball with Jesé on, pass into midfield with crouch on. Think he costed us the game as if we’d have got the goal at 2-0 I think we could’ve got a point, and we looked the likely team to score. 3 of the goals came from our right side. He should’ve gone in he summer and this has to be his last game for stoke. Edwards would’ve done better. Bmi-5- not his best performance but don’t think he trusted the defenders with him. Most balls into morata went back to where they came from, did well when he chased morata all the way back. But he was our only centre half and we conceded 4. Erik-5- thought he was poor against Moses wife, but cleared up most that came into the centre. Thought he did well for someone who was playing out of position. Ramadan- 5- not a defender, if plays should be part of the front 3, out muscled. But ran at the fullbacks, which is what the fans want to see. Allen- 6- thought he had a much better game than the last couple. Got out muscled by Chelsea’s centre midfielders but made up for it with the slide tackles and last ditch tackles. Tried to drive us forward but nothing came off. Much better today from Joe. Fletcher- 5- didn’t really help us going forward today, wasn’t much better defending. Gifted them the second goal and was poor at centre half, but that’s not his position. Can’t moan at fletch for to much as I think he’s been one of our best players this season. Choupo- 6- drives us forward, looks much more affective out wide. Had a half decent shot and took on Moses. Had a pen shout aswell. Unfortuently, wingers need a striker to be in the box to cross for. And we didn’t have them today. HES NOT A CENTRE FORWARD MR HUGHES!! Shaq- 7- my man of the match. Drove at the chelsea defence. Had the confidence to try skills and some worked. MOST Crosses looked good. Had a weak shot but at least someone hit the target! Caused alonso problems all day I thought. Shaq is finally settled and stepped up as our key man. Jesé- 4- If it wasn’t for Johnson I’d say he was our worst player. Looks weak. He doesn’t close down. He doesn’t win headers. He doesn’t even challenge for them. Didn’t drive at the defence. Didn’t shoot. Why was he on the pitch. Haven’t been overly convinced in any game. Got 1 goal but has been poor since. Super Jonny Walters would’ve been better. Think he needs to be dropped sparky, surely it’s not just the fans that can see it. Crouch- 6- we didn’t use him as we should’ve. But the 2 times we did he nodded down we’ll and diouf should’ve scored. Don’t think we should start him but he still is a handful Affelay- 5- didn’t really have a chance today, the game was over and it wasn’t his fault. Some good passes and nice to see him back to some kind of fitness. Honestly think he could’ve got a point. 70th minute, if we get the goal, we draw. The first 30 minutes of the second half we was by far the better team. 3 stupid decisions costed us today. One, Johnson’s stupid mistake knocked the stuffin’ out of us. Why is he passing the ball into the middle?? Someone tell me?? Just clip the line. 2, mark Hughes? Why is Johnson playing?? Why have we taken our only centre half off the pitch. Why haven’t you trusted a young lad In souttar? Don’t put him on the bench if you don’t trust him. Why wasn’t Johnson sold and why was Bardsley kept? If you think Edwards have something special, why aren’t you playing him? It’s pathetic. And finally mike dean. We all know he love the attention. But he has to send Alonso off. He’s on a yellow card. He makes another yellow cardable offence. He’s argued with the ref. He throws the ball away. This isn’t the mike dean show. It’s a premier league game. Ridiculous! Sorry about the essay, I’m just pissed off! Haha Cant argue with any of this.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 23, 2017 17:20:14 GMT
Jack 6 Diouf 7 Johnson 4 Bruno 6 Pieters 7 Ramadan 3 Fletcher 5 Allen 6 Shaq 8 Choupo 7 Jese 0
Subs Crouch 6 Affelay 5
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Post by wuzza on Sept 23, 2017 17:26:34 GMT
I thought Diouf, BMI, Allen, Shaq and Choupo could all feel they had done a decent day's work. Of the rest most were ok with just 2 or 3 exceptions.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 23, 2017 17:32:34 GMT
When everybody is fit I want to see this team on the pitch! ...................Butland.................. .......Zouma......Shawcross......Indi....... Diouf......Fletcher.......Allen......Pieters .....Shaq..........Crouch.......Chapou......
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 23, 2017 17:34:16 GMT
I thought Diouf, BMI, Allen, Shaq and Choupo could all feel they had done a decent day's work. Of the rest most were ok with just 2 or 3 exceptions. Agreed with those picks. Thought Pieters did ok given the circumstances too. Would probably agree with the sponsors' choice of motm but Diouf was excellent for an hour or so and it was Allen's best game for months.
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Post by skemstokie on Sept 23, 2017 17:38:17 GMT
Ratings seem a little harsh as thought we did ok in parts. Arguably couldn't come up against many stronger club teams in world football and we were punished by 4 clinical finishes and 2 stupid errors. Hit the nail on the head but not good for knicker wetting brigade
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 23, 2017 17:58:32 GMT
Butland was offered little protection but he was poor for the first. Should have charged out like the light brigade! I also thought some of his kicking today was poor
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 18:05:28 GMT
Butland-5- I don’t know if he could have done better for the goals but had no real protection. Diouf-6- thought he was one of our best players going forward, but his job is to defend and he didn’t do that, especially for the 4th Also missed 2 good chances. Maybe he should be our centre forward??? Johnson- 3- honestly thought he was awful. Terrible decision making, long ball with Jesé on, pass into midfield with crouch on. Think he costed us the game as if we’d have got the goal at 2-0 I think we could’ve got a point, and we looked the likely team to score. 3 of the goals came from our right side. He should’ve gone in he summer and this has to be his last game for stoke. Edwards would’ve done better. Bmi-5- not his best performance but don’t think he trusted the defenders with him. Most balls into morata went back to where they came from, did well when he chased morata all the way back. But he was our only centre half and we conceded 4. Erik-5- thought he was poor against Moses wife, but cleared up most that came into the centre. Thought he did well for someone who was playing out of position. Ramadan- 5- not a defender, if plays should be part of the front 3, out muscled. But ran at the fullbacks, which is what the fans want to see. Allen- 6- thought he had a much better game than the last couple. Got out muscled by Chelsea’s centre midfielders but made up for it with the slide tackles and last ditch tackles. Tried to drive us forward but nothing came off. Much better today from Joe. Fletcher- 5- didn’t really help us going forward today, wasn’t much better defending. Gifted them the second goal and was poor at centre half, but that’s not his position. Can’t moan at fletch for to much as I think he’s been one of our best players this season. Choupo- 6- drives us forward, looks much more affective out wide. Had a half decent shot and took on Moses. Had a pen shout aswell. Unfortuently, wingers need a striker to be in the box to cross for. And we didn’t have them today. HES NOT A CENTRE FORWARD MR HUGHES!! Shaq- 7- my man of the match. Drove at the chelsea defence. Had the confidence to try skills and some worked. MOST Crosses looked good. Had a weak shot but at least someone hit the target! Caused alonso problems all day I thought. Shaq is finally settled and stepped up as our key man. Jesé- 4- If it wasn’t for Johnson I’d say he was our worst player. Looks weak. He doesn’t close down. He doesn’t win headers. He doesn’t even challenge for them. Didn’t drive at the defence. Didn’t shoot. Why was he on the pitch. Haven’t been overly convinced in any game. Got 1 goal but has been poor since. Super Jonny Walters would’ve been better. Think he needs to be dropped sparky, surely it’s not just the fans that can see it. Crouch- 6- we didn’t use him as we should’ve. But the 2 times we did he nodded down we’ll and diouf should’ve scored. Don’t think we should start him but he still is a handful Affelay- 5- didn’t really have a chance today, the game was over and it wasn’t his fault. Some good passes and nice to see him back to some kind of fitness. Honestly think he could’ve got a point. 70th minute, if we get the goal, we draw. The first 30 minutes of the second half we was by far the better team. 3 stupid decisions costed us today. One, Johnson’s stupid mistake knocked the stuffin’ out of us. Why is he passing the ball into the middle?? Someone tell me?? Just clip the line. 2, mark Hughes? Why is Johnson playing?? Why have we taken our only centre half off the pitch. Why haven’t you trusted a young lad In souttar? Don’t put him on the bench if you don’t trust him. Why wasn’t Johnson sold and why was Bardsley kept? If you think Edwards have something special, why aren’t you playing him? It’s pathetic. And finally mike dean. We all know he love the attention. But he has to send Alonso off. He’s on a yellow card. He makes another yellow cardable offence. He’s argued with the ref. He throws the ball away. This isn’t the mike dean show. It’s a premier league game. Ridiculous! Sorry about the essay, I’m just pissed off! Haha You're right about most things, but you can't blame Hughes for not playing an injured Edwards. Hughes has enough trust in him that he sold Bardsley. Should have sold/retired Johnson too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 18:07:52 GMT
Jack 6 Diouf 7 Johnson 4 Bruno 6 Pieters 7 Ramadan 3 Fletcher 5 Allen 6 Shaq 8 Choupo 7 Jese 0 Subs Crouch 6 Affelay 5 I'd go with this.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 23, 2017 18:10:56 GMT
Agent Johnson - surely batting for another side? Appalling
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Post by werrington on Sept 23, 2017 18:15:14 GMT
4s and 5s.....seriously ?
We played as good as we've played all season
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Post by Davef on Sept 23, 2017 18:22:57 GMT
We really do have some deluded mardarses among our number. There were some decent displays today under trying circumstances. BMI stepped up and put in a solid, responsible performance as did Pieters. Diouf played well (and should’ve scored), Shaq was very good and Choupo once again showed that we have a decent player on our hands.
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Post by rawli on Sept 23, 2017 18:26:54 GMT
Erik-5- thought he was poor against Moses wife, but cleared up most that came into the centre. Thought he did well for someone who was playing out of position. Thought she played well.
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Post by thicknthin on Sept 23, 2017 19:11:42 GMT
I thought Eric was decent left of the 3, steady 7 from me.
Certainly much better than as a wing back
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 23, 2017 19:18:36 GMT
Butland 6 Indi 6 Johnson 3 Peiters 7 Diouf 6 Ramadan 4 Fletcher 4 Allen 6 Shaqiri 7 Moting 6 Jese 5 Crouch 5 Affelay 4 Gouranga.
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 23, 2017 19:20:44 GMT
BMI was caught cold for the first goal but after that he didn't give Morata a kick.
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 23, 2017 20:08:58 GMT
We really do have some deluded mardarses among our number. There were some decent displays today under trying circumstances. BMI stepped up and put in a solid, responsible performance as did Pieters. Diouf played well (and should’ve scored), Shaq was very good and Choupo once again showed that we have a decent player on our hands. Just got home and reading some of the above comments about diouf and pieters I thought I've been to a different game
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 23, 2017 21:24:46 GMT
Butland was offered little protection but he was poor for the first. Should have charged out like the light brigade! I think he was poor for the third as well. He's a top class keeper and I feel as though others of his ilk might've made themselves bigger. Edit: Poor is the wrong word. I think he could do better because of how good he is. The 3rd is still all Johnsons though.
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Post by robstokie on Sept 23, 2017 21:51:23 GMT
Butland 5 - exposed
Pieters 4 - uncomfortable Indi 4 - had to play in the middle of a back 3 - where he hasn't convinced and had to lead the two either side of him. Johnson 1 - liability. Why the fuck couldn't we have kept Bards over him.
Diouf 4 - pinned back. Not allowed to play his game. Fletcher 5 - tried to advance play, but between a disjointed attack and a makeshift attack, wasn't done any favours. Allen 3 - outmuscled. Again, not done any favours Sobhi 4 - thrown into the deep end. Tried, but left exposed.
Jesse 4 - understandably off colour. Should have been allowed to go to his boys bedside. Choupo 4 - not given the service to test Chelsea. Shaq 5 - our only real threat, but needs players around him who can offer him the service and options he needs.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 23, 2017 23:00:38 GMT
Butland was offered little protection but he was poor for the first. Should have charged out like the light brigade! I also thought some of his kicking today was poor His kicking has been shite for a long time but it's not helped with what he had to aim for in that first half. I know Jese is small and it's not his game but he was running away from the ball when it was in the air.
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Post by samba :) on Sept 23, 2017 23:07:38 GMT
Butland 6
Johnson 4 Indi 6 Pieters 6 (feel youve been harsh on eric dutch)
Fletcher 6 Allen 7 (motm)
Diouf 5 cant be missing from 2 yards out Rama 6 looked good down the left in the 1st half
Shaq 6 tried to make it happen Chop 5 i felt he was missing alot today
Jese 4 shouldn'tbe playing. He should be on compationate leave with his son (terrible man management from the club)
Crouch 6 unlucky Af 5 someone around me keeps shouting apple pie instead of affeley on purpose and its so irritating (please stop doing so if you are reading)
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