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Post by ltj386 on Sept 22, 2017 15:01:46 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on Sept 22, 2017 15:05:01 GMT
He can fuck off the bald prick.
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Post by Davef on Sept 22, 2017 15:07:58 GMT
He can fuck off the bald prick. What's the problem? There have already been several Premier League teams who aren't competing in Europe who've opted out of the competition. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 22, 2017 15:08:00 GMT
He's managing in our country so he should crack on with it and keep his mouth shut.
If he doesn't like our football traditions and competitions then go back to his native country to manage there.
These blokes, to a man, are absolute wankers.
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 22, 2017 15:23:27 GMT
I wouldn't have a problem if these two arseholes asked the FA next season if they can opt out of the competition, it might even enhance the competition. But i somehow doubt they will although as we know the shit have past form in this area.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 22, 2017 15:39:24 GMT
He can fuck off the bald prick. What's the problem? There have already been several Premier League teams who aren't competing in Europe who've opted out of the competition. Well we can all think of one. But I presume that's what you meant :-) |
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Sept 22, 2017 15:44:26 GMT
I think the cups need looking at, it tells you everything you need to know when Bristol City play the reserves against us (9 changes) Burton did at Old Trafford too.
I think the winner of the League Cup and FA Cup should play in a playoff game at the end of the season for a place in Champions League.
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Post by Davef on Sept 22, 2017 15:49:04 GMT
I think the cups need looking at, it tells you everything you need to know when Bristol City play the reserves against us (9 changes) Burton did at Old Trafford too. I think the winner of the League Cup and FA Cup should play in a playoff game at the end of the season for a place in Champions League. That will never be voted through, but even if it was you will find that in the vast majority of cases the two clubs playing off will most probably be assured of a Champions League place any way and if they aren't they will be teams like Arsenal and Liverpool who have blown their chances of Champions League football by their Premier League form. The bigger clubs are beginning to dominate the domestic cup competitions as well. |
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Post by thevoid on Sept 22, 2017 15:52:11 GMT
Most of the top countries have a Cup and a League Cup. I'm not sure Spain has one but they play the Copa del Rey over two legs every round.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Sept 22, 2017 15:58:17 GMT
It is shit now though isn’t it? It’s a reserve tournament for most teams in the top 2 leagues because the difference in prize money and potential Prem money is so vast. Teams don’t want to risk their league form.
It’s about £2m per place in the Premier League and the prize money for winning the league cup is £100k, runner up gets £50k, everybody else gets peanuts.
Solid mid-table Prem teams will want to have a bit of a go so the season isn’t completely meaningless, lower league teams have a bit of a pay day on gate receipts but other than that what’s the point? The prestige isn’t there anymore.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 22, 2017 16:02:12 GMT
I've always thought that it was profoundly stupid to be in the Champions' League without actually winning anything.
There should be one place for the winner of each competition. If the winner is already in Europe then pass it down to the runner up of that particular competition with no swapping between competitions. Prem > FA Cup > League Cup in terms of priority in the "already in Europe" stakes.
The fourth place should go to us as we're the oldest top-flight team in the world and therefore champion of age.
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Post by turtlefox on Sept 22, 2017 16:08:42 GMT
Pep's not going to win the Champions League with Man City, so he should be greatful for the Carabao Cup.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 22, 2017 18:38:56 GMT
Jose and Pep are in favour.
What say you?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 22, 2017 18:44:02 GMT
Nah, keep it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 22, 2017 18:49:48 GMT
I think it is a bit Mickey Mouse as if stands but how could it be improved?
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Post by generationex on Sept 22, 2017 19:00:50 GMT
Yeah, it could join the Watneys Cup in the 'Competitions We Have Won But No Longer Exist' category.
154 years.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 22, 2017 19:18:00 GMT
Love it. Keep it.
Then again, I'd bring back the Cup Winners' Cup, the Anglo-Italian and the Zenith Data Systems.
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Post by thicknthin on Sept 22, 2017 19:19:52 GMT
Just exclude any teams in Europe. Gives the rest of us a chance
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Post by cooper67 on Sept 22, 2017 19:20:00 GMT
The top teams would take it more seriously if The Champions League was actually just for Champions;rather than the joke it has become.
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Post by waffles on Sept 22, 2017 19:20:12 GMT
Get rid of it I say,give the top 4 more of a chance of winning the European cup, oh, hang on, edit, give the top 4 more chance of playing pointless friendlies in target markets, that's what I meant.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 22, 2017 19:21:42 GMT
If Jose and Pep are in favour of it, then definitely KEEP it....anything to piss them off more!!!
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Sept 22, 2017 19:50:07 GMT
I think the death knell is sounding sadly. Money rules all and for me Burton resting players in what should have been a plum cup draw against Manchester United to concentrate on Championship survival says all you need to know about the future of the competition.
It'll be a shame when it does go though. One trophy in our entire history is already a sorry enough statistic and it'll be devalued even further if it becomes a non current competition.
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Post by werrington on Sept 22, 2017 19:50:31 GMT
It'd be another kick in the teeth for lower league football and indeed clubs like us in the premier league
How general rank and file football fans can think it's a good idea is beyond me
What with this and U21 sides competing in competitive competitions v league sides it really is the thin end of the wedge
Tell them to fuck off as when those pair of cunts have long left our shores with bucket loads of cash they won't give a shit about our great league structure and competitions
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 22, 2017 20:05:31 GMT
Keep it. Who cares what the fuck Pep and Jose think.
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Post by minty1964 on Sept 22, 2017 20:48:04 GMT
It is not the fact that we depend on it,, it has always been a Game Leveller... aka us at Liverpool when we drew at Anfield (Tony Kelly last minute equaliser)
Bristol did to us what we used to do to others...
the Shit with Steino's double... memories written in folklore
Stoke and West Ham in the 70's
Not only are the Foreign Managers and London Media Express Train rejecting this competition, they are openly slagging it off as an hindrance to their overpaid player / club & media expenses paid mission.
Will Stoke City, Burnley, Newcastle, Huddersfield, Southampton, WBA, Watford, Leicester, Swansea, Leicester, Brighton, West Ham, Bournemouth, Everton & Palace agree to this... nope or should not
It is a media frenzied thing, yet another, that means they are trying to re-structure us towards a European model.
Next will be the Winter Break... but a serious attack on what we do.. we should resist whole-heartedly.. and if it has got to the point where we have no sponsor... fuck it... the League Cup remains the league Cup because we say it does... not them.
Once this goes... we will have more Checker-trade type exercises that do nothing for Football in this Country... at the behest of a few Foreign Managers
The LEAGUE CUP is the only thing we have won against top opposition... we need to cherish that and think of all the Team's below us where we once were.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 20:59:04 GMT
It needs to be made the League Cup again or the Milk Cup, at least it sounded nice,, but remember the Rumbelows Cup?? Nonsense.
TEST
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 22, 2017 21:03:06 GMT
They can jog on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 21:08:16 GMT
Keep it.
The cup was introduced in 1960 after an initial idea by Sir Stanley Rous.
These fly by nights weren't even born. I think it's those we should lose first.
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Post by chad on Sept 22, 2017 21:08:24 GMT
Keep it and fuck the boring Champions (plus several losers) League off instead
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 22, 2017 21:14:55 GMT
No one takes it serious, what's the point of it?
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