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Post by essexstokey on Sept 18, 2017 10:00:29 GMT
I'm just sort of venting a bit of anger over what I saw and what was said over the weekend while I was having a coffee near me in a coffee shop (first time ive seen it )
first of all there was this women (middle aged) smoking outside the shop (no problem with that) but she was watching for an opportunity she ran in took a drink from the fridge then ran off without paying,
within 10 minutes a lad came in got 2 torpedo sandwiches in his hand then queued up because the assistant was busy he just walked out without paying, I called after him and challenged him asking him if he wanted to come back and pay for them to which he replied not really and smiled and walked off.
I was annoyed at the general attitude of both and the reaction of the staff (4 working only 1 was serving and 3 out back doing god knows what(. They said they would tell the manager but when I saw him today no one had said a thing.
what makes this all worse is that there were at least 4 kids in the shop and 2 were talking about it to there dad. what an example these despicable people are setting for our youth and there actions effect all of us with higher prices.
Have we gone that far down the road that this is now seen as acceptable and people can help themselves and the rest of us pay for it.
I was brought up with the attitude that if you cant afford it then you either go without or save up for it but you don't steal is this still the case or am I wrong in this.
sorry had to get this off my chest rant over !!
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 18, 2017 10:39:52 GMT
The idea of a tea leaf in a coffee shop is quite poetic.
I have no expectation that a minimum wage barrista should be wrestling with an opportunistic 'lifter, and don't believe for a minute that there'd be any price reduction if thievery was eradicated.
Shoplifters of the world unite and takeover.
Robin Hoodie.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Sept 18, 2017 10:54:41 GMT
Women are the worst. I did three years in cctv/security at one of our larger supermarkets. Prams/pushchairs etc are the perfect vehicle for nicking stuff. They'll go into fitting rooms stacked high with stuff, booze clothes etc and remove electronic tags and load up putting everything on,in, around and under the kid. But stop them at the door and all hell breaks loose.
Kids were a pain but not in the same league as the bored housewife.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 18, 2017 11:37:54 GMT
The idea of a tea leaf in a coffee shop is quite poetic. I have no expectation that a minimum wage barrista should be wrestling with an opportunistic 'lifter, and don't believe for a minute that there'd be any price reduction if thievery was eradicated. Shoplifters of the world unite and takeover. Robin Hoodie. Six months is a long time. |
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Post by 3putts on Sept 18, 2017 11:45:02 GMT
The idea of a tea leaf in a coffee shop is quite poetic. I have no expectation that a minimum wage barrista should be wrestling with an opportunistic 'lifter, and don't believe for a minute that there'd be any price reduction if thievery was eradicated. Shoplifters of the world unite and takeover. Robin Hoodie. frikin el what a numpty dont you realise why shops are so lethargic to shoplifting? it just gives them an excuse to raise their prices. so in the end the honest people pay for scumbags who want a free ride. shop;ifters should be deported to saudi then see what happens |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 18, 2017 11:56:19 GMT
The idea of a tea leaf in a coffee shop is quite poetic. I have no expectation that a minimum wage barrista should be wrestling with an opportunistic 'lifter, and don't believe for a minute that there'd be any price reduction if thievery was eradicated. Shoplifters of the world unite and takeover. Robin Hoodie. frikin el what a numpty dont you realise why shops are so lethargic to shoplifting? it just gives them an excuse to raise their prices. so in the end the honest people pay for scumbags who want a free ride. shop;ifters should be deported to saudi then see what happens Nah Putts, more gets wasted and chucked than nicked. Fuck the corporations. Deportation for a loaf of bread? We've been there before ain't we? |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 18, 2017 11:57:32 GMT
The idea of a tea leaf in a coffee shop is quite poetic. I have no expectation that a minimum wage barrista should be wrestling with an opportunistic 'lifter, and don't believe for a minute that there'd be any price reduction if thievery was eradicated. Shoplifters of the world unite and takeover. Robin Hoodie. Six months is a long time. Only when you're lonely? |
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 18, 2017 12:38:33 GMT
frikin el what a numpty dont you realise why shops are so lethargic to shoplifting? it just gives them an excuse to raise their prices. so in the end the honest people pay for scumbags who want a free ride. shop;ifters should be deported to saudi then see what happens Nah Putts, more gets wasted and chucked than nicked. Fuck the corporations. Deportation for a loaf of bread? We've been there before ain't we? But I can accept it if these people were down and outs or being failed by our social security system but they are not they were well dressed wore good clothes etc. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 18, 2017 12:55:06 GMT
Nah Putts, more gets wasted and chucked than nicked. Fuck the corporations. Deportation for a loaf of bread? We've been there before ain't we? But I can accept it if these people were down and outs or being failed by our social security system but they are not they were well dressed wore good clothes etc. Dunno mate I wasn't there, but maybe their shoplifting goes beyond the odd sarnie. Sounds like one was desperation, the other arrogance. Obviously I'm being a bit facetious but I like owt that takes a swipe at rip-off Britain. And have little or no sympathy for these chains and corps. Use by, best before, planned obsolescence, excessive packaging, waste etc etc. I embrace the 'black market' and the barter. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 18, 2017 16:08:43 GMT
Women are the worst. I did three years in cctv/security at one of our larger supermarkets. Prams/pushchairs etc are the perfect vehicle for nicking stuff. They'll go into fitting rooms stacked high with stuff, booze clothes etc and remove electronic tags and load up putting everything on,in, around and under the kid. But stop them at the door and all hell breaks loose. Kids were a pain but not in the same league as the bored housewife. I did six years in a big supermarket as well, although not on security, the old biddies were horrendous for it as well, what made me laugh is they had a superiority complex of thinking they were untouchable because of their age, no Mavis, you're getting done for trying to pinch a toaster you slag, deal with it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 16:33:21 GMT
Women are the worst. I did three years in cctv/security at one of our larger supermarkets. Prams/pushchairs etc are the perfect vehicle for nicking stuff. They'll go into fitting rooms stacked high with stuff, booze clothes etc and remove electronic tags and load up putting everything on,in, around and under the kid. But stop them at the door and all hell breaks loose. Kids were a pain but not in the same league as the bored housewife. I did six years in a big supermarket as well, although not on security, the old biddies were horrendous for it as well, what made me laugh is they had a superiority complex of thinking they were untouchable because of their age, no Mavis, you're getting done for trying to pinch a toaster you slag, deal with it. Love the thought of Mavis being a Slag, and Beryl being a right old whore |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Sept 18, 2017 17:08:02 GMT
Women are the worst. I did three years in cctv/security at one of our larger supermarkets. Prams/pushchairs etc are the perfect vehicle for nicking stuff. They'll go into fitting rooms stacked high with stuff, booze clothes etc and remove electronic tags and load up putting everything on,in, around and under the kid. But stop them at the door and all hell breaks loose. Kids were a pain but not in the same league as the bored housewife. I did six years in a big supermarket as well, although not on security, the old biddies were horrendous for it as well, what made me laugh is they had a superiority complex of thinking they were untouchable because of their age, no Mavis, you're getting done for trying to pinch a toaster you slag, deal with it. I followed one guy on camera who unwrapped a screwdriver he'd just taken off the shelf and then promptly used that to try and prise open a pack of Mach 3 razors, in broad daylight ffs!!. Needless to say he spent some time in the holding room until plod arrived. Some of them were just plain bloody thick. Happy days, almost. 😊 |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 18, 2017 17:31:30 GMT
I'm just sort of venting a bit of anger over what I saw and what was said over the weekend while I was having a coffee near me in a coffee shop (first time ive seen it ) first of all there was this women (middle aged) smoking outside the shop (no problem with that) but she was watching for an opportunity she ran in took a drink from the fridge then ran off without paying, within 10 minutes a lad came in got 2 torpedo sandwiches in his hand then queued up because the assistant was busy he just walked out without paying, I called after him and challenged him asking him if he wanted to come back and pay for them to which he replied not really and smiled and walked off. I was annoyed at the general attitude of both and the reaction of the staff (4 working only 1 was serving and 3 out back doing god knows what(. They said they would tell the manager but when I saw him today no one had said a thing. what makes this all worse is that there were at least 4 kids in the shop and 2 were talking about it to there dad. what an example these despicable people are setting for our youth and there actions effect all of us with higher prices. Have we gone that far down the road that this is now seen as acceptable and people can help themselves and the rest of us pay for it. I was brought up with the attitude that if you cant afford it then you either go without or save up for it but you don't steal is this still the case or am I wrong in this. sorry had to get this off my chest rant over !! Why didn't you perform a citizens arrest? Shop theft by an adult can be indictable offence whether it ends up in magistrates or crown court. |
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 18, 2017 17:52:11 GMT
I'm just sort of venting a bit of anger over what I saw and what was said over the weekend while I was having a coffee near me in a coffee shop (first time ive seen it ) first of all there was this women (middle aged) smoking outside the shop (no problem with that) but she was watching for an opportunity she ran in took a drink from the fridge then ran off without paying, within 10 minutes a lad came in got 2 torpedo sandwiches in his hand then queued up because the assistant was busy he just walked out without paying, Just the other day I felt so indignant at the amount of time I was waiting to be served that I thought I should just walk out with what I had(0f course I didn't) & don't get me started on how long it takes the Spanish to serve dinner. I want to just walk off every time, wasting my holiday! |
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Post by felonious on Sept 18, 2017 18:31:40 GMT
Nah Putts, more gets wasted and chucked than nicked. Fuck the corporations. Deportation for a loaf of bread? We've been there before ain't we? But I can accept it if these people were down and outs or being failed by our social security system but they are not they were well dressed wore good clothes etc. But surely the good clothes they were wearing were stolen in a previous theft because they'd been let down by the Tories? |
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 28, 2017 16:38:44 GMT
Was in a well known chain today and caught a shoplifter bang to rights having watched them of the 4/5 staff in there 3 including the manager made me feel that I was in the wrong for stopping the thief the other employee (who I've got to know) wanted to come and help me.
I was so incensed at what had happened that I phoned head office and there reply was the same as the managers that they are to let anyone walk away with anything they want and they will not challenge them this has got around this area and quite a few now just help themselves day after day the customer service at head office also did not take my address or telephone number and said they would investigate but would no longer comment on this problem.
they said the area manager would investigate when I pointed out this was useless as 3 or more of the team were related or known to them I got the distinct impression that they would do nothing. the person that I have got to know is thinking of leaving as these employees are useless but no one says anything. before you say anything yes I know the law (having studied it) yes I know about businesses and yes I know about customer service etc (again having studied them
Ok rant over!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 19:00:43 GMT
Oh Splendid post..although not theft related, but why do some shop assistants and not just them for that matter feel it is Ok to chew gum when serving or talking to you.
Or the check out chick, is serving you but chatting to her colleague as she doss not give a shit.
I like the self service scanners tbf.. a lot of savings to be made, err so I am told.
Winds me right up.
TEST
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Post by chuffedstokie on Sept 28, 2017 19:13:01 GMT
When I did my security stint at an Asda the highlight of the shift was tackling some thieving git to the floor halfway down the car park. Strange how no one comes to give you a hand when you need it. Same when in the Met as well, you'll get an audience alright but no assistance.
The store department managers I had though were helpful on occasion.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 19:25:00 GMT
Most of the store security people in the shops around my area don't look like they could run or tackle anything. They seem to either be about mid 50's to retirement age, or look like they've been on the "all you can eat" diet for the past 10 years. I wouldn't have thought they were physically capable of hot pursuit to apprehend a shoplifter. Similar to the security guy in "Trollied" if you've ever seen it on Sky.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Sept 28, 2017 19:54:55 GMT
Most of the store security people in the shops around my area don't look like they could run or tackle anything. They seem to either be about mid 50's to retirement age, or look like they've been on the "all you can eat" diet for the past 10 years. I wouldn't have thought they were physically capable of hot pursuit to apprehend a shoplifter. Similar to the security guy in "Trollied" if you've ever seen it on Sky. Very valid point about the state of a great deal of today's excuses for store security. I think it's part of my genetic make up not to let the ba$#@#ds get away with anything. Plus all the years of playing hockey came in handy. 😊👍 |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 28, 2017 20:25:34 GMT
I was in a sweet shop a few months ago and I was walking out this lad walked in. There were a few people in the queue still inside. Anyway I was talking outside the shop, had been there for about 10 secs and the same lad walked out, before anyone else with a bag of sweets off the shelf & shoved it in his pocket as he came out the door.
I grabbed him in the street and said "oi, have you paid for that?
He said "who are you, what the fuck has it got to do you?"
Me - "does it matter? Have you paid?"
Him - fuck off you prick
We were still close to the door so I kind of dragged him to the door and shouted into the shop.
Me - Oi duck has he paid for these sweets?
(My Inner monologue - I've got you now you little scrote, don't fuck with me. I'm like a younger columbo but without the coat)
Woman - yes he has, why?
(My inner monologue - ah, fuck ...)
Me to woman - no worries
Me to lad - sorry about that.
Lad - get off you dick, who the fuck are you.
Me to lad - yeah, sorry. You looked a bit dodgy.
Lad - don't fucking touch me again
Me - I mean to be fair you never said you had paid for them but yes, sorry.
Lad - you're a fucking dick
(My inner monologue - not sure where to go now. I hope he just walks away. Do I suggest he doesn't queue jump in future?)
Me - yes, sorry.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Sept 28, 2017 20:30:57 GMT
I was in a sweet shop a few months ago and I was walking out this lad walked in. There were a few people in the queue still inside. Anyway I was talking outside the shop, had been there for about 10 secs and the same lad walked out, before anyone else with a bag of sweets off the shelf & shoved it in his pocket as he came out the door. I grabbed him in the street and said "oi, have you paid for that? He said "who are you, what the fuck has it got to do you?" Me - "does it matter? Have you paid?" Him - fuck off you prick We were still close to the door so I kind of dragged him to the door and shouted into the shop. Me - Oi duck has he paid for these sweets? (My Inner monologue - I've got you now you little scrote, don't fuck with me. I'm like a younger columbo but without the coat) Woman - yes he has, why? (My inner monologue - ah, fuck ...) Me to woman - no worries Me to lad - sorry about that. Lad - get off you dick, who the fuck are you. Me to lad - yeah, sorry. You looked a bit dodgy. Lad - don't fucking touch me again Me - I mean to be fair you never said you had paid for them but yes, sorry. Lad - you're a fucking dick (My inner monologue - not sure where to go now. I hope he just walks away. Do I suggest he doesn't queue jump in future?) Me - yes, sorry. She was in on it |
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 28, 2017 21:02:50 GMT
I got caught nicking a packet of Munchies once.
Life's a learning curve, I left the Munchies alone after that and concentrated on Juicy Fruit chewing gum.
Much easier to conceal and easier to sell in the playground..
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Post by woodstein on Sept 28, 2017 22:19:07 GMT
But I can accept it if these people were down and outs or being failed by our social security system but they are not they were well dressed wore good clothes etc. Dunno mate I wasn't there, but maybe their shoplifting goes beyond the odd sarnie. Sounds like one was desperation, the other arrogance. Obviously I'm being a bit facetious but I like owt that takes a swipe at rip-off Britain. And have little or no sympathy for these chains and corps. Use by, best before, planned obsolescence, excessive packaging, waste etc etc. I embrace the 'black market' and the barter. Presume you mean the woman was the desperate one, but why, if she can afford fags? The lad sounded a bit arrogant but maybe he was desperate for food and as he was not being served, thought f..k it! I'd probably have slung the sarnie down if not getting served. On another mentioned matter, you can't blame poorly paid staff for not confronting lifters, especially if the company are not bothered - no we can lose money to shoplifters but the other mugs will cover that by paying more when stuff goes up in price. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 28, 2017 23:24:37 GMT
Women are the worst. I did three years in cctv/security at one of our larger supermarkets. Prams/pushchairs etc are the perfect vehicle for nicking stuff. They'll go into fitting rooms stacked high with stuff, booze clothes etc and remove electronic tags and load up putting everything on,in, around and under the kid. But stop them at the door and all hell breaks loose. Kids were a pain but not in the same league as the bored housewife. I did six years in a big supermarket as well, although not on security, the old biddies were horrendous for it as well, what made me laugh is they had a superiority complex of thinking they were untouchable because of their age, no Mavis, you're getting done for trying to pinch a toaster you slag, deal with it. Reminds me of a situation that occurred twenty odd years ago when I was running a pub We had this lovely old couple who had been coming in every night for years always sat on two seats in the off sales regardless of the weather One night Charles came in on his own missus not with you I asked No she's been took in hospital Of course being concerned I asked if the was anything I could do A little sheepishly he called me to one side and asked for advise he'd opened a cupboard in the kitchen a found it full of tins of salmon ( nither of them liked salmon) He'd gone up the hospital and asked what they were doing there With a indignant look his wife replied I've been stealing them for months so I could get caught and stand in court and complain how I can't afford salmon on my pension Hasten to add I solved the problem for him he didn't buy a lot of beer that week And the darts and dominoes teams were well pleased with salmon sandwiches for a few weeks |
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Post by bigdev on Sept 29, 2017 22:36:05 GMT
I got caught nicking a packet of Munchies once. Life's a learning curve, I left the Munchies alone after that and concentrated on Juicy Fruit chewing gum. Much easier to conceal and easier to sell in the playground.. Back in the day they sold like golddust on the playground.  My special skill was premier league 94 stickers 20 packs at a time and dolly beads from my local newsagents in the Meir. After 2 months of success and living the life we were caught in the act in woolworths trying to nick Subbuteo teams. We are still banned to this day. |
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