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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 17, 2017 16:08:28 GMT
Just a rant over something that really bothers me. It continually surprises me how so many Premier League strikers have glaring misses in front of goal, and not just for us but every other team as well. Choupo Moting missed a good chance for us yesterday, and Lukaku skied one over the bar last week. I know the top level game is fast and opportunities can be gone in an instant but these guys are paid to score goals. I played in school and county football and if I had missed some of the chances these guys do I would have been dropped, and deservedly so.
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Post by werrington on Sept 17, 2017 16:10:22 GMT
So you'd drop Lukaku ?
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 17, 2017 16:17:59 GMT
No, that doesn't happen often does it. But some of these missed chances defy belief and some players should really look at themselves and say "I'm better than that". I know I wouldn't have got away with it for long.
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 17, 2017 16:27:37 GMT
Mamas header at the death should have been buried
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Post by localloser on Sept 17, 2017 16:42:59 GMT
The Hoss missed three - thank God  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 16:44:16 GMT
Shearer has always said that missing chances shouldn't worry forwards. When you're not getting the chances is the time to be concerned.
Getting into the right position is a massive part of being a good striker. The great ones are the ones who are also natural finishers. But just having a knack for being in the right place means that someone like Diouf will always bag a few goals.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 16:45:11 GMT
Just a rant over something that really bothers me. It continually surprises me how so many Premier League strikers have glaring misses in front of goal, and not just for us but every other team as well. Choupo Moting missed a good chance for us yesterday, and Lukaku skied one over the bar last week. I know the top level game is fast and opportunities can be gone in an instant but these guys are paid to score goals. I played in school and county football and if I had missed some of the chances these guys do I would have been dropped, and deservedly so. Quite often and its not just whilst we have been in the PL somerset chances have fallen regularly to opposition players that you cannot believe have not been taken |
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Post by Fred Merger on Sept 17, 2017 17:23:57 GMT
The Hoss missed three - thank God And a lot of fans on here wanted to keep him! |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 17, 2017 17:40:32 GMT
The Hoss missed three - thank God And a lot of fans on here wanted to keep him! Joselu makes me laugh, a striker?, he should be done under the trade descriptions act. Apparently Hughes didn't even acknowledge Jos as he was subbed {again}. I thought Jos would leave England, interesting to know what really went on. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 17:52:41 GMT
The Hoss missed three - thank God And a lot of fans on here wanted to keep him! Name a striker we have at the club who is better? Crouch and that's it. Mame doesn't count because our manager won't play him up front. |
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Sept 17, 2017 18:13:31 GMT
Joselu had. An article in the Daily Mail on Saturday saying he left Stoke as Hughes did not trust him! No wonder given the three chances he missed! He said he wanted to play regularly in the first team as many on here said.
No surprise that Hughes did not shake hands with him or acknowledge him.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 17, 2017 18:16:53 GMT
And a lot of fans on here wanted to keep him! Name a striker we have at the club who is better? Crouch and that's it. Mame doesn't count because our manager won't play him up front. Don't get the Joselu hate. He's not the only striker Hughes has fucked about, is he? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 17, 2017 18:47:37 GMT
Joselu had. An article in the Daily Mail on Saturday saying he left Stoke as Hughes did not trust him! No wonder given the three chances he missed! He said he wanted to play regularly in the first team as many on here said. No surprise that Hughes did not shake hands with him or acknowledge him.Why? There wasn't anything bad said as far as we know, so I don't know why he'd ignore him. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 17, 2017 19:51:14 GMT
And a lot of fans on here wanted to keep him! Joselu makes me laugh, a striker?, he should be done under the trade descriptions act. Apparently Hughes didn't even acknowledge Jos as he was subbed {again}. I thought Jos would leave England, interesting to know what really went on. He pissed over our defence yesterday. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 17, 2017 20:26:11 GMT
Joselu makes me laugh, a striker?, he should be done under the trade descriptions act. Apparently Hughes didn't even acknowledge Jos as he was subbed {again}. I thought Jos would leave England, interesting to know what really went on. He pissed over our defence yesterday. Oh yes he was handy for us too, but anywhere but in front of goal. Thought he'd make a decentish 10 or even winger. Immaterial really he pissed on his chips here. |
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Post by adamsson on Sept 17, 2017 21:08:08 GMT
Just a rant over something that really bothers me. It continually surprises me how so many Premier League strikers have glaring misses in front of goal, and not just for us but every other team as well. Choupo Moting missed a good chance for us yesterday, and Lukaku skied one over the bar last week. I know the top level game is fast and opportunities can be gone in an instant but these guys are paid to score goals. I played in school and county football and if I had missed some of the chances these guys do I would have been dropped, and deservedly so. The older I get the better I was  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 21:12:35 GMT
Diouf misses loads and is so shit with the ball and control I wonder if he is a professional footballer,
Yet he'd prob score most out of our forwards, so is he a amazing or shit I don't know what to think
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Post by albundy on Sept 17, 2017 21:19:32 GMT
Not sure LMH ever got over Joselu banging his daughter
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Post by PB1863 on Sept 17, 2017 21:24:16 GMT
Not sure LMH ever got over Joselu banging his daughter A Newcastle supporter said the same thing to me on Saturday |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 21:32:53 GMT
Had he really though or is it same as pennant shagging pulls daughter,
Why do we always end up with managers with daughter that end up shagging the team
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Post by pez75 on Sept 18, 2017 9:42:36 GMT
And a lot of fans on here wanted to keep him! Name a striker we have at the club who is better? Crouch and that's it. Mame doesn't count because our manager won't play him up front. Diouf does not count because he is not better. |
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 18, 2017 11:12:46 GMT
Cloughy once said that scoring a goal was the hardest thing to do in a game. Some of the greatest strikers in the world miss easy chances regularly. Shearer (once a great goalscorer) is right. The time to worry is when teams create no chances.
OS.
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Post by Will_75 on Sept 18, 2017 11:58:17 GMT
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 18, 2017 12:00:06 GMT
Even the great John Ritchie missed some sitters. Being in the right place is a knack all good goal scorers have and given the chance they will score more often than not. Chopper lacked composure, Mame had a very good header well saved and one that on another day he would have scored.
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Post by hanibal7 on Sept 18, 2017 12:08:49 GMT
Do you actually watch football, plenty misses all over the world.
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 18, 2017 13:35:37 GMT
Just a rant over something that really bothers me. It continually surprises me how so many Premier League strikers have glaring misses in front of goal, and not just for us but every other team as well. Choupo Moting missed a good chance for us yesterday, and Lukaku skied one over the bar last week. I know the top level game is fast and opportunities can be gone in an instant but these guys are paid to score goals. I played in school and county football and if I had missed some of the chances these guys do I would have been dropped, and deservedly so. This reads like a letter to Viz |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 18, 2017 13:41:47 GMT
Strikers who miss good chances? Before clicking, I would have bet everything I own that this thread was dedicated to Martin Carruthers. The master of the art.
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 18, 2017 14:22:02 GMT
Keith Scott wasn't bad at it either!
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Post by starkiller on Sept 18, 2017 14:27:31 GMT
These 'sportsmen' lack the skill, craft and precision of, let's say, a top tennis player, and do not justify their vastly inflated salaries...
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 18, 2017 14:34:50 GMT
Plenty of these guys are paid incredible amounts of money, in the belief that they can score important goals regularly. Yet the record of many of them is abysmal. eg Wilfried Bony, Saido Berhahino. The statistics show that the best strikers have a scoring rate of probably one goal in every two games or perhaps three.
My point is not if they are relatively succesful or deserve their pay, but how supposedly top class sportsmen miss so many of the chances that they should convert. I can't say that I was a prolific scorer at my level, but I would at least hope to get my shots on target, or within a few inches of the goal, even if they were then saved.
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