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Post by homer32 on Sept 14, 2017 7:41:52 GMT
Butland
3 from 5 Zouma, Ryan, Martins Indi, Wimmer, Cameron
Fletcher Allen
I wouldn't swop that for any other teams set up in the Prem with only Chelsea and Tottenham to consider as being stronger.Far better than Liverpool, Man City,Arsenal and as good as Man Utd based on their performance against us last weekend.If we stay reasonably clear of injuries then we will finish in the top 10 this season.
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Post by jarvinski on Sept 14, 2017 7:59:33 GMT
Totally agree, its a cracking set up
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Post by eddy on Sept 14, 2017 8:06:15 GMT
Our selection of CBs is easily worthy of a very good Europa league side, and our keeper is Champions League quality - however, you are omitting the wing-backs which are still an integral part of a defensive side and probably our biggest weakness at the moment
A quality pair of wing-backs and our defense would rival any in the league imo
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 14, 2017 8:10:26 GMT
The reason why I was never worried about relegation, that defence will see us avoid trouble with ease.
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Post by cooper67 on Sept 14, 2017 8:20:50 GMT
Spurs are better than us in this respect.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2017 8:21:32 GMT
The only centre backs I'd have out of the Premier League instead of ours are Vertonghen, Alderweiereld (sp) and Kompany. We're so strong at centre back.
Midfielders though is a different kettle of fish. I think Fletcher would get into only half of the teams in the league. Allen less.
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Post by coupe on Sept 14, 2017 8:32:31 GMT
The only centre backs I'd have out of the Premier League instead of ours are Vertonghen, Alderweiereld (sp) and Kompany. We're so strong at centre back. Midfielders though is a different kettle of fish. I think Fletcher would get into only half of the teams in the league. Allen less. Other than Man C,Man U, Chelsea,Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal,& possibly Everton Fletcher would walk into every other team and Allen easily 50% of the prem |
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Post by homer32 on Sept 14, 2017 9:52:08 GMT
Our selection of CBs is easily worthy of a very good Europa league side, and our keeper is Champions League quality - however, you are omitting the wing-backs which are still an integral part of a defensive side and probably our biggest weakness at the moment A quality pair of wing-backs and our defense would rival any in the league imo Fair comment Diouf & Pieters are both short on ability defensively but adequate for a team like Stoke.If we could improve in that dept we are looking at top 7 then. |
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Sept 14, 2017 10:05:25 GMT
On paper and in value for money terms, probably not.
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Post by leoncort on Sept 14, 2017 10:09:39 GMT
Spurs are the only one for me. I think Chelsea too, mainly due to Azpilucueta and Alonso i think they are class in a back 5, so is Luiz, hes a clown in a back 4 mind.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2017 10:31:54 GMT
The only centre backs I'd have out of the Premier League instead of ours are Vertonghen, Alderweiereld (sp) and Kompany. We're so strong at centre back. Midfielders though is a different kettle of fish. I think Fletcher would get into only half of the teams in the league. Allen less. Other than Man C,Man U, Chelsea,Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal,& possibly Everton Fletcher would walk into every other team and Allen easily 50% of the prem He wouldn't get into the Southampton midfield or even close to it imo. Even less chance with Everton either. West Ham's midfield maybe. Leicester's possibly now Drinkwater has left. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 14, 2017 10:43:59 GMT
Defenders are a dying at in the Premier League (and in Europe by the looks of the amount of goals scored in Champions League). Not seen enough of Wimmer yet but Zouma & Butland are up there with best in the league Shawcross & BMI could play in a top 6 side Cameron is excellent back-up Wingbacks are well below average Midfield is average Front 3 plus Ramadan is back-up is probably best for any team outside the top 6 So you could say Defence - 3rd best in league (behind Spurs & Chelsea) Midfield plus Wingbacks - 10th-15h best in league Attack - 6th to 9th So on average on paper we should finish 7th  this season |
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Post by samba :) on Mar 19, 2018 23:02:42 GMT
It was all so exciting:(  |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 19, 2018 23:03:47 GMT
It was all so exciting:( Right up until 3 at the back happened. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 19, 2018 23:14:42 GMT
We still have a fantastic bunch of CBs and even better full backs now.
It makes the hash of a job Lambert is doing even more galling.
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Post by cooper67 on Mar 20, 2018 0:49:17 GMT
So who would you have employed??
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Post by Gods on Mar 20, 2018 1:02:40 GMT
It was all so exciting:( Well found. Who would have thought we'd go on to concede goals for fun? I'm always interested to see how innocence fares when it clashes with hard reality! |
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 20, 2018 1:14:04 GMT
It was all so exciting:( Right up until 3 at the back happened. Ironically it would probably suit us now. Two full backs who like to get forward, Shaq in the middle, and two up front! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 1:24:50 GMT
The reason why I was never worried about relegation, that defence will see us avoid trouble with ease. Quality |
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 20, 2018 1:36:43 GMT
We still have a fantastic bunch of CBs and even better full backs now. It makes the hash of a job Lambert is doing even more galling. It’s not particularly the defence he’s making a hash of though is it? I cba to check but I’d imagine we’re probably top half for goals conceded during his reign? |
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Post by cooper67 on Mar 20, 2018 1:44:02 GMT
Butland 3 from 5 Zouma, Ryan, Martins Indi, Wimmer, Cameron Fletcher Allen I wouldn't swop that for any other teams set up in the Prem with only Chelsea and Tottenham to consider as being stronger.Far better than Liverpool, Man City,Arsenal and as good as Man Utd based on their performance against us last weekend.If we stay reasonably clear of injuries then we will finish in the top 10 this season. Yes about 18 at the current count. |
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 20, 2018 4:04:02 GMT
The reason why I was never worried about relegation, that defence will see us avoid trouble with ease. PMSL |
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Post by upthefud on Mar 20, 2018 6:51:01 GMT
Makes the regular 4/5/7 goal hammerings under Hughes seem even more ridiculous.
He's the bloke who fucked us, not Lambert
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 20, 2018 7:11:57 GMT
The reason why I was never worried about relegation, that defence will see us avoid trouble with ease. Quality  can't always be right can I?! |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 20, 2018 7:12:48 GMT
The reason why I was never worried about relegation, that defence will see us avoid trouble with ease. PMSL I've been waiting for someone to quote me for the past few weeks tbh tbf, we have been better defensively under Lambert so I'm blaming Hughes  |
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 20, 2018 7:16:22 GMT
Anybody else enjoying the fact that, if anything, Bayern was too optimistic here? |
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Post by madnellie on Mar 20, 2018 8:22:42 GMT
Six months. Six bloody months |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 20, 2018 9:40:45 GMT
We still have a fantastic bunch of CBs and even better full backs now. It makes the hash of a job Lambert is doing even more galling. It’s not particularly the defence he’s making a hash of though is it? I cba to check but I’d imagine we’re probably top half for goals conceded during his reign? Probably but he is doing strange things with them. Dropping Bauer. Dropping Indi. Not bringing Shawcross back in sooner etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 11:23:47 GMT
I felt the same as all the original posters at the time. Had gone from wanting Hughes gone at the end of 16/17 to thinking we had turned a corner and having my faith totally restored. It’s galling to think about now, under slightly different circumstances this season could’ve been a great one. Fine lines.
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Post by thegift on Mar 20, 2018 11:27:22 GMT
Embarrassing.
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this season
can't always be right can I?!
