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Post by malteser68 on Sept 12, 2017 5:05:49 GMT
Apart from the top 7 we are the longest standing team in the premier league this year
That is a fantastic achievement in itself
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 5:25:35 GMT
Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 5:43:11 GMT
And we are 20th overall number of years in the Prem.
7 teams with more years than us are currently outside of the Prem.
Should eventually overtake Fulham, Bolton, Leeds, Boro and Blackburn.
But will take ages to overhaul Villa and Sunderland.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 12, 2017 5:46:55 GMT
Isn't Mark Hughes the second longest standing manager in PL after "he who shall not be named"? Although Dyche has held his position longer at Burnley, it hasn't all been in PL.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 12, 2017 6:44:53 GMT
Apart from the top 7 we are the longest standing team in the premier league this year That is a fantastic achievement in itself Everton are 16th and they have been in the Prem since it started so your stat is wrong!  |
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Post by huuuuuth on Sept 12, 2017 7:23:12 GMT
Apart from the top 7 we are the longest standing team in the premier league this year That is a fantastic achievement in itself Everton are 16th and they have been in the Prem since it started so your stat is wrong! I think it's for consecutive seasons? |
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 12, 2017 7:58:51 GMT
Taking this stat a step further, this is our 62nd season in the top flight of English football, putting us 17th on the overall list. This is one season behind Wolves and three behind Derby but ahead of the likes of West Ham, Leeds, and Leicester.
Worth remembering the next time an opposing fan tells you that we will end up relegated back "to where we belong".
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Post by generationex on Sept 12, 2017 8:33:13 GMT
It's a great achievement - but does sort of reinforce the need to win a bloody cup sometime soon!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 12, 2017 9:11:53 GMT
Everton are 16th and they have been in the Prem since it started so your stat is wrong! I think it's for consecutive seasons? I was being frivolous. We are genuinely 8th in terms of consecutive seasons (of the current teams) and last season's top 7 happen to be the 7 with the longest unbroken tenure in the Prem. Everton have done well to stay up as long as they have as they were much poorer than the top 6 in recent years until they got a £billionaire to back them in the last couple of years. Everton and Villa were the teams I wanted us to aspire to compete with when we got promoted and Villa have now dropped into the Championship. Everton will be tough to compete with now they have money and a flash new stadium likely in the next few years. |
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Post by duckling on Sept 12, 2017 10:54:18 GMT
Isn't Mark Hughes the second longest standing manager in PL after "he who shall not be named"? Although Dyche has held his position longer at Burnley, it hasn't all been in PL. Howe has also been there longer than Hughes although it's not all been in the Premier League. Stoke managers are fortunate to work for Peter Coates. Under Steve Parish neither Hughes nor Pulis would have survived the first season as there were times of struggle during those seasons. |
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Post by nott1 on Sept 12, 2017 13:23:49 GMT
Solid foundations laid by TP!
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 12, 2017 14:36:37 GMT
I was thinking about this earlier, particularly in terms of where we are now compared to our expectations when we got promoted...
In the seasons before we came up there had been a bit of a tendency for there to be at least one "whipping boy" club - Derby's catastrophic season happened the year before, and it's often forgotten that Sunderland had beaten our own long-standing lowest points record just a season or two before that as well. So there was a real expectation that at least one club would completely embarrass themselves, and obviously ourselves and Hull were prime candidates. I can even remember thinking that I'd still be happy enough with the season even if we went down, as long as we were at least competitive, got a few decent wins and were still in the fight at the end of the season. In true Stokie fashion I was trying to prepare myself for disappointment, looking on the bright side, thinking about parachute payments and coming back stronger and the like.
Obviously we were full of hope but there was a tangible nervousness that we would just get mercilessly chewed up and spat out by the Big League, especially after the first half at Bolton. It's hard to overstate to the kids growing up today just how much of an outside shot it was for us to remain in the division... who could have imagined we'd be Premier League stalwarts and the eighth most established team in the English top flight within a decade...
As someone whose formative years as a supporter coincided with our inexorable decline through the divisions, I truly thought I would never see Stoke play in the top flight, much less in an FA Cup Final or Europe. I'm sure we all eyed Leicester enviously a couple of seasons ago thinking "why can't that be us," but just pause to think how long the list of clubs is who would give anything to be where we are now. It's the stuff of dreams, it really is.
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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 12, 2017 15:19:34 GMT
I was thinking about this earlier, particularly in terms of where we are now compared to our expectations when we got promoted... In the seasons before we came up there had been a bit of a tendency for there to be at least one "whipping boy" club - Derby's catastrophic season happened the year before, and it's often forgotten that Sunderland had beaten our own long-standing lowest points record just a season or two before that as well. So there was a real expectation that at least one club would completely embarrass themselves, and obviously ourselves and Hull were prime candidates. I can even remember thinking that I'd still be happy enough with the season even if we went down, as long as we were at least competitive, got a few decent wins and were still in the fight at the end of the season. In true Stokie fashion I was trying to prepare myself for disappointment, looking on the bright side, thinking about parachute payments and coming back stronger and the like. Obviously we were full of hope but there was a tangible nervousness that we would just get mercilessly chewed up and spat out by the Big League, especially after the first half at Bolton. It's hard to overstate to the kids growing up today just how much of an outside shot it was for us to remain in the division... who could have imagined we'd be Premier League stalwarts and the eighth most established team in the English top flight within a decade... As someone whose formative years as a supporter coincided with our inexorable decline through the divisions, I truly thought I would never see Stoke play in the top flight, much less in an FA Cup Final or Europe. I'm sure we all eyed Leicester enviously a couple of seasons ago thinking "why can't that be us," but just pause to think how long the list of clubs is who would give anything to be where we are now. It's the stuff of dreams, it really is. This post is spot on. As someone whose first season as a fan was the season before the holocaust season, everything is always easy to put into a proper context. What we have at the moment is incredible. Not just the league position but the overall stability and good governance at the club. It's always funny seeing how Peter Coates became such a hero, I remember how despised he and Humphreys used to be, ("the two pigs"), the club's turnround has been remarkable in many ways, not just on the field. I am of the (slightly controversial) belief that our achievements since promotion to the Premier League eclipse anything that went before. I think it is MUCH harder to gain a secure foothold in the top flight than it ever used to be, both for playing and financial reasons. Also controversial is that I will forever laud and honour Tony Pulis for what he did here. It was, that said, right for him to move on when he did, but the abuse he gets from some of our fans is shameful. Were I to meet him, I would pour praise and gratitude on him for what he achieved here. The arguments on this have been done to death though, I won't get into them, suffice to say that as a holocaust-season veteran my mind will never be changed on this. |
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